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- Spaz007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+55The MPAA needs something pluged in their "anal hole".
- aresef, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33Or rather, unplugged, which is the problem, you see.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27"but betamax will destroy the industry!" -- MPAA
then
"bootleg cassette tapes are destroying the industry!" -- RIAA
"VCRs are destroying the industry!" -- MPAA
then
"CD burners will destroy the industry!" -- RIAA
then
"P2P is destroying the industry!" -- MAFIAA
"DVD burners are destroying the industry!" -- MPAA
and now, hundreds of billions of dollars later..
"Our customers are destroying the industry! [via schoolyard piracy]" -- MAFIAA - scrubadub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Name Organization Country Phone NUmber
Dan Glickman MPAA USA (202) 293-1966 ext. 112
John Feehery MPAA USA (202) 293-1966 ext. 193
Gayle Osterberg MPAA USA (202) 293-1966 ext. 139
Brad Hunt MPAA USA (818) 995-6600 x 222
Kori Bernards MPAA USA (818) 995-6600 ext. 130
Matt Grossman MPAA USA (818) 995-6600 ext. 130
Elizabeth Kaltman MPAA USA (818) 995-6600 ext. 293
Marta Grutka MPAA USA 818-995-6600, ext. 126
Mr. Axel aus der Muhlen MPAA USA (818) 995-6600 ext. 777
Richard Taylor MPAA USA (818) 995-6600 ext. 138
Francisco Guerra MPA-America Latina Mexico 55 25 593-1203
Douglas Frith CMPDA Canada (416) 961-1888 ext. 1
Susan Peacock CMPDA Canada (416) 961-1888 ext. 2
Jennifer Denhard MPA-America Latina Brazil 55 11 3667-2080
Christopher Marcich MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2711
Ted Shapiro MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2711
Unknown MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2712
Unknown 2 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2721
Unknown 31 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2731
Uknown 13 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2713
James Saunders MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2711
Finola McLaughlan MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2711
Nicholas Lagerghan MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2711
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 14 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2714
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 15 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2715
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 16 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2716
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 17 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2717
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 18 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2718
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 19 MPA-Europe Belgium 011-32-2-778-2719
Dan Glickman
As Chair and CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America, Dan Glickman takes over the seat previously occupied by the infamous Jack Valenti. A career Democrat, Mr. Glickman was previously the Secretary of Agriculture under President Bill Clinton. He is the lead lobbyist for the MPAA in Washington, D.C.
John Feehery
As Executive Vice President for External Affairs, John Feehery is in charge of communication with the public. Previously a spokesperson for Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, and communications director for Tom DeLay. The public relations buck stops with him, so give Mr. Feehery a call and tell him that you don't want DRM in your movies. Tell him you don't want your technology to make decisions about what is or is not appropriate behavior. That's for your conscience to decide.
Gayle Osterberg
Spokesperson for the MPAA, Gayle Osterberg is one of their major conduits for public opinion. Give her a ring and tell her why you oppose DRM in your technology. Ask her why you can't play your DVD in other regions. Ask her why the MPAA thinks it needs to protect users from themselves. Frankly, ask her if she thinks movie stars and studio execs are paid too much.
Brad Hunt
Senior VP and Chief Technology Officer, Mr. Hunt is heavily involved with the development of DRM and TPM methods. He's the MPAA's top geek, sitting on the Copy Protection Technical Working Group and the Analog Reconversion Discussion Group. In other words, it's his job to plug the analog hole, and they're coming up with more and more subtle ways to do it. Brad is a smart guy, so before you start yelling at him, consider having a reasonable discussion with him about the dangers of DRM. He'll no doubt argue that they're working on developing DRM that respects our rights to make copies for personal use. How would you respond?
Kori Bernards
Kori Bernards, along with Matt Grossman, are two of the major spokespeople for the Motion Picture Association of America. The extension listed here is for the Corporate Communiations office. Ask for either one of these two, and let them know what you think of DRM. Ask them why technology should make decisions for you about what you're allowed to do with movies you bought and own.
Matt Grossman
Matt Grossman, along with Kori Bernards, are two of the major spokespeople for the Motion Picture Association of America. The extension listed here is for the Corporate Communiations office. Ask for either one of these two, and let them know what you think of DRM. Ask them why technology should make decisions for you about what you're allowed to do with movies you bought and own.
Elizabeth Kaltman
We obtained this direct extension for Elizabeth Kaltman, one of the spokespeople for the MPAA. Engage her in conversation; let her know exactly why you oppose DRM and broadcast flags. Help the MPAA realize that the public is a mindless group of robots who can be lulled to sleep with their version of the story. We know the truth: DRM is bad for business, bad for the public, and we don't want it in our technology. Our movie players shouldn't make decisions about appropriate use.
Marta Grutka
Marta Grutka, spokesperson for the MPAA, was often heard from during the DeCSS and DBD copying debates a few years back. She strongly stated that DVD backup tools were in clear violation of the DMCA. You might ask her why the MPAA has any right to tell you what to do with a movie you've legally purchased. Let her know that technology shouldn't dictate our rights!
Mr. Axel aus der Muhlen
As Vice President and Senior Counsel, Mr. aus der Muhlen is highly involved in the MPAA's legal endeavors. Let him know that you dissapprove of their attempts to use DRM and broadcast flags to strong arm the viewing public. Tell him it's not the place of the movie industry to force technology to bend to their will, nor is it appropriate for them to attempt to expand copyright law without going through the proper channels.
Richard Taylor
Strongly involved in outreach to universities and educational institutes, Richard Taylor is Senior Vice President for External Affairs & Education. In his public appearances, he has been described as willing to engage in thoughtful conversations. Let him know your concerns about DRM and your views on how the MPAA is approaching the rapid move to digitalize content. Let him know that we don't want our technology making decisions for us. We should be able to decide for ourselves whether we want to transfer and make copies of movies we have ALREADY LEGALLY BOUGHT.
Francisco Guerra
Francisco Guerra is involved in anti-piracy operations in Mexico. Regardless of how you feel about pirating movies for financial gain, let Sr. Guerra know that DRM is an unacceptable response to perceived losses due to piracy. Make your voice heard.
Douglas Frith
President of the Canadian Motion Picture Distribution Association (CMPDA), Douglas Frith is allied with the Motion Picture Association. Let him know what you think of DRM, and tell him that you don't appreciate the CMPDA or the MPA setting policy that restricts your rights.
Susan Peacock
Vice President of the Canadian Motion Picture Distribution Association, Susan Peacock is closely tied to the Motion Picture Association, which represents the U.S. movie studios in other countries. Give her a call and tell her why you don't want DRM in your movies or in your movie playing systems. Movie players shouldn't presume that I'm guilty, punish me ahead of time, and keep me from legitimately using my legally purchased movies.
Jennifer Denhard
Deputy Director for Latin American Operations, Jennifer Denhard is the perfect person to tell your DRM woes to. Ask her why the MPAA advocates letting my movie player decide whether what I choose to do with movies I own is allowed. Shouldn't I be able to make that decision for myself?
Christopher Marcich
Senior Vice-President and Managing Director of the Motion Picture Association - Europe, Chris enforces copyright regulations and looks out for the interests of major U.S. movie studios in Europe. If you live in the E.U., give Chris a call and tell him that you don't appreciate the MPA's push for WIPO, broadcast flags and DRM. Tell him you don't want movies that you purchase to treat you like a criminal. Movies you purchase shouldn't make decisions for you about what is or is not appropriate use.
Ted Shapiro
Ted Shapiro is Deputy Managing Director VP and General Counsel for the MPA-Europe. The whole department is focused on strengthening copyright legislation and encouraging the support and development of DRM in Europe. Give this guy a call today and let him know why you find DRM a completely unacceptable solution to the MPA's fears about digital piracy.
Unknown *
Unknown individual working for the MPA-Europe office. Be the first to find out who this person is, and let them know why you don't support DRM. Why are they so keen to empower our technology to make decisions about what I can or cannot do with my movies?
James Saunders
The MPA's Europe office is focused on strengthening copyright legislation and encouraging the support and development of DRM in Europe. Give this guy a call today and let him know why you find DRM a completely unacceptable solution to the MPA's fears about digital piracy.
Finola McLaughlan
The MPA's Europe office is focused on strengthening copyright legislation and encouraging the support and development of DRM in Europe. Give this nice lady a call today and let her know why you find DRM a completely unacceptable solution to the MPA's fears about digital piracy.
Nicholas Lagerghan
The MPA's Europe office is focused on strengthening copyright legislation and encouraging the support and development of DRM in Europe. Give this guy a call today and let him know why you find DRM a completely unacceptable solution to the MPA's fears about digital piracy.
Mystery MPA Europe Employee 1*
Unknown individual working for the MPA-Europe office. Be the first to find out who this person is, and let them know why you don't support DRM. Why are they so keen to empower our technology to make decisions about what I can or cannot do with my movies? - negativenancy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Call them and ask them how to use Torrents
- Fett101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Well they'll just create "trusted" earbuds and amps and what not. Of course you'll have to get trusted "ears" in order to hear from them, but the RIAA wil be glad to supply you some at an afordable price.
- Spaz007, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25"Isn't it impossible to actually plug the A-hole?"
Don't know I don't swing that way. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20And stop suing and pretending it's law...
The legal system allows people with enough money to "create" laws... If you have enough money, when you sue someone and lose, the person defending it is ruined, thus it is 'law'.
They also know how to play the 'lobbying' game (known as bribery in more liberal countries)
The analog hole?? for ***** sake, it is going to be a joyous day when these ***** leeches fall off the face of the earth. - verstohlen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18The MPAA can never win. If you can view it, if you can hear it, then you can copy it.
Also I will not be buying any DRM defective-by-design merchandise. - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22"Hey you guys are listed on warezforumz they said to call for help how do I get porn torrents?"
- anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Quote1:Freedom Fighter: "Hi, I'm calling about the MPAA's position on DRM. Why do you think that it's illegal for me to make back up copies of my DVDs?"
Quote2:MPAA: "Because you might then sell them to other people, or give them away to people who might have bought them."
Fact: In law, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule which a court may need to adopt when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts.
Quote4, A Legal precedence:
"Under US law "the Betamax decision" (Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc.), case holds that copying "technologies" are not inherently illegal, if substantial non-infringing use can be made of them."
So the MPAA representative is not making legal sense. It's just paid-for lobbying nonesense. Moreover, it is very likely that every DRM scheme can be broken given sufficient time and effort**; so it won't prevent piracy. It will just infringe on users' right to fair use, explicitely protected by a doctrine in United States copyright law.
**In this case, an example would be a device manufactured by professional pirates in China that could intercept the driving signal of an LCD showing the movie, and reproduce a working DRM free copy. - treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I dunno guys, when you go after the MAFIAA... they come after your family (even your computer-illiterate grandmas)!
:D - paulkman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Isn't it impossible to actually plug the A-hole? I mean, no matter how "trusted" a device is, isn't it always possible to record the voltage emitted by an amp?
- Jacob, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18@ invader
In order of the questions asked my responses are
no
no
no
hell no
no
and you are right most people are ignorant and will do these things because they know no better. - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15the MPAA needs to STFU and stop impinging on our freedoms and liberties for greed.
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"I find it interesting that on this site there is so much support for The Pirate Bay, the pirate party, and just copyright infringement in general."
It's not all about getting movies for free. If you haven't noticed, groups like the MPAA and the RIAA are totally taking our legal system, and our government for a ride.
If you support the idea that the side with the most money should always win, then by all means, support the MPAA. - headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14"At least as far as the ***** idiots of digg think."
I really never get tired of saying this... Hey buddy, you're on Digg. You are a Digg user. How can you insult the Digg users without insulting yourself? - invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14you're right about them ignoring their customers' wants and needs.
as for the second part of your comment, this quote should shed some light on why that won't happen:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
-- Upton Sinclair - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13lawlak & mwales, as a musician and special effects/compositor, i appreciate your concern for our livelihood, but the notion that the MPAA or the RIAA are looking out for anyone but themselves is a lie.
Once upon a time is was a union of sorts, but as with most union type groups it became a boys club and then gradually evolved into a mafia. If you're not "endorsed" you don't get airtime, if you aren't in the club you don't get scripts read, folios looked at etc etc.
They are greedy, they lie about the costs in order to pay you less, but above all, they are no longer needed.
Once we needed their studios, their camera's, their recording gear, their instruments, their editors, their promotions, their airplay. This is no longer the case. They 'charge' the artists/staff for services they no longer provide. Artists are producing in their bedrooms and the record companies are packaging it and cynically marketting it to brainwashed youth. The fact that it's been going on for this long has always amazed me
They are dinosaurs who WANT you to believe they are looking out for the artists/staff's best interest, when all they are looking out for is their own back pocket... bands like my band http://www.childreninthegame.net and others like us are giving our music away to demonstrate to these leeches that they are obsolete.
The death of a middle man is a beautiful thing... Stop trying to prolong it and instead boycott them and just sit back and watch the show... - invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11#1 was a two-part question :P he got it right
answers would be about the same.. but for vista, i would have said "buy? no. pirate? probably."
the point isn't that joe public doesn't know what's going on.. it's just that most people don't want to live a life deprived of all the trendy gadgets n'stuff.. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I don't think they [MPAA et. al] are easily swayed by public opinion, even if it is from the majority.
Perhaps your own governments and law makers are the ones you should be approaching about these matters. - m0laria, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Yea, because handing someone a cd is like...way faster than downloading it! Omg, physically copying cds is the new napster! Sue Isaac Newton for creating the laws of physics imo.
*slams head onto spikey objects* - invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9this is the Motion Picture Association of America. by "plugging the analog hole" they mean discontinuing the use of VGA. basically, only trusted monitors would be able to show the encrypted signal. this means the video is encrypted from the disc to the computer/dvd player to the display device. the only weak link in the chain would be the transfer from the display to your eyes. this means, the only rips possible (until it's hacked, of course) will be TeleSync videos of someone's LCD or plasma.
- zemble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8All true of course. But I think that the commercial world has changed since Betamax. The studios and other major copyright holding groups realize that DRM is a license to print money and they *will* push it until we have a situation where, when we buy digital content, we will legally and physically (without bypassing DRM schemes) only be able to see/listen/use it once. The aim is to be 100% pay per use. Software will be tied to single hardware machines and very narrow usage times. I also don't believe politicians have the willingness to stop it.
It sounds scary and extreme, but if you're in the business of selling this stuff, then it's an obvious way to make easy (and, IMO, totally immoral) profits. It is the big business induced downside of digital content, and exactly the same 'easy profit model' the telcos are after if they get to charge different rates for different internet sites. Sony and others have been moving rapidly towards this model in Japan for sometime. There's a big DRM cracking community here, but the companies still make their money on the majority of consumers who don't know how to do it and pay over and over for the same content.
The difference this time compared to the Betamax case is that these bodies & companies have done a lot more lobbying to build the fear of copyright infringement. The anti-piracy ads are over the top and ridiculous (and completely infuriating because of the way they outright lie), but they're now so widespread that the average Joe and less scrupulous people (politicians) fully believe them. I hope you've all seen the Japanese anti-piracy ad. It makes it seem almost like people die from pirating movies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiXSuXWgQtc. Total bollocks of course, but very effective with non-techies. - Kazrog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The neutrality of the analog hole is being debated. In my toaster.
As long as we have content that can be listened to and viewed, and as long as there is the internet, piracy will continue until intellectual property no longer holds monetary value by itself. - tonyspencer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Apparantly RIAA and MPAA now think 'schoolyard piracy' is a greater threat than P2P downloading...
http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/scm/copy_cd_crime_20060818/ - wtf00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@invader
"but for vista, i would have said "buy? no. pirate? probably."
ROFL - kualla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I think it would be funny to call up and act like your on their side with them but really make it sound like your evil, evil like they are but think what your doing is ok. Be like, I think it is a great business tactic to sue people, it has got to bring in killer profits. It must be like pirates robbing a smaller ship that was caught fishing in your waters, they want some fish but since they didn't pay their dues to fish there, you take away the fish they caught along with their fishing equipment and everything else they have.
Honestly, looking at other similar laws, it almost sounds like they bribed some government agency to create a law that says downloading music can result in a $10,000 fine per song(or whatever outrageous amount it is). Compared to say going to the store and stealing a music CD that contains 10-20 tracks, and the CD costs say $20, the fine you will get at an extreme maximum might be $500, and thats for the whole CD, not per song!!! That is what REALLY REALLY REALLY pisses me off!
No it is not right to be downloading files without paying for them but god damnit, it sure as hell isn't ok to be suing families for half their income that they will make in a year. That is what I call stealing!
And as far as this BS DRM, ***** you RIAA! It is like what happened with alcohol, it was legal at first then became illegal but people didn't listen. Almost like taking a sucker away from a baby after they had their first lick. Your going to get a fight. We have been able to record to tape so we have a copy for in our car, at work, and while at home, as well as being able to make custom mix tapes. Now to say no, it is illegal, you no longer can have that convience, BS! RIAA needs to stop being so greedy and trying to make money from every possible aspect.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I don't buy poor quality iTunes rips (they're generally abysmal), so I don't suffer their DRM,
I buy commercial CDs and DVDs, but because I don't use Windows, my computer doesn't get exploited by their DRM, and I can play them without hassle.
If I want to make copies, I can strip off the DRM rubbish easily, because I don't use Windows.
Windows "Vista" has more built-in DRM facilities than anything before, so a lot of home users are going to be even more disappointed with their new "operating system" - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6What they actually want to do is have a system that watches what you watch on your screen and compares it with "copyright" material to make sure you're not being naughty...
I don't know what the current state of "vista" is but there were rumours they were trying to make "only plays on trusted monitors" implemented in vista... but then who in their right mind is going to jump onto that orwellian nightmare willingly? - sakuraz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Not these a holes
- mindlessxd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Saying analog is a hole in digital media is kind'a like saying that a photocopier is a hole in printed media...
- Dizzy149, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The problem is that the government and lawmakers are owned by the RIAA and MPAA
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I like the fact that both the MPAA and RIAA articles on wikipedia are marked "The neutrality of this article is disputed." Have some of us been tampering with wikipedia lately?
- johngault, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Even lawyers admitted the laws are confusing. Distributing free copies of a purchased CD or DVD is only a federal copyright crime if the value of the copied discs exceeds $1,000, Assistant U.S. Attorney Elena Duarte told the Times"
thats a lot of copies.....
"Evan Collins, 15, expressed his view of the issue: “I think you’re allowed to make, like, two or three copies of a CD you bought and give them to friends,” Collins told the LA Times. “It’s only once you make five copies, or copy a CD of stolen music, that it’s illegal.”"
he is closer than the RIAA. Some one needs to tell him its really like 50 copies.
We need to limit downloads of Cd's to 49 copies to stay legal.
lol - paul_c, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The MPAA has been trying to plug us in the hole for ages.
- diggduggjoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The only way to get the MPAA/RIAA to listen is to plug our analog holes, being our eyes and ears. STOP buying music and videos. Tell them exactly why you intend never to buy again and then we might get some response.
People act like the old joke about an unwillingly young lady resisting with.
Don't!
Stop!
Don't!
Stop!
Don't Stop! Don't Stop!
As long we we keep buying we are providing incentive. We are saying we will put up with all their *****. - Fett101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5MPAA. RIAA. I was close. Please read my post substituting 'eyes' for 'ears' everyone.
- paulkman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Also thinking RIAA. They're like twins. Easily confused.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@Fett101
it wasn't so much for you as it was for the parent comment. you were simply responding to his question about an amp - rubored, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3***** RIAA/MPAA.
Needa stop all this ***** :@
+DIGG! - anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@lakawak
I was replying to the hypothetical situation & that is the kind of argument they make. I didn't realize there were people like you out there so I didn't actually write that "if this.. then that". How smart are you feeling? Not very smart I guess. In fact you are a ***** moron. I know that, because your brain can only grasp the part about quotes, and not the parts that require any actual brain activity beyound that of a 7 year old. - scrubadub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah DefectiveByDesign will make millions by having this on the front page... whats that... they don't charge... hmmm
You might wanna stop digging all apple/M$/google/any corporation's articles because that's advertising too right? - justice7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3dugg for title!
analog hole. ..
As butthead would say ..... heh-heh-heh-heh you said analog hole - Cerberus047, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2holy ***** bitcloud your band is awesome you got that whole radiohead (amnesiac era) down.. and i love it!!!! more power to you man!!
- Hurricane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I signed up for the email alerts about the movement several days ago.
When I got the email the link to login did not work, I am sure this stopped a lot of people.
I had to go to the website and navigate through several pages before being able to retriev the numbers. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9my call will be:
hi you are rediculous! .... oh wait hold on one sec x-men just finsihsed downloading in need to unrar it...... *continue my complaint* ...hold on doorbell my new telecine machine is here......
lol
-wolf - anonydigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@lakawak again:
and really... What do the diggs tell you?
Do you really think that ppl here on digg are on the wrong side of the IQ Normal Distribution or you are? - carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2shh.... don't tell them that. or the fact that once it's online it doesn't matter how many people can't copy something, they'll use the copy someone was generous enough to put online.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2now they wanna plug us in the hole with wider screens than before
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