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- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+153To: RIAA
Good Day,
It has come to my attention that I owe you lots of money. I sincerley wish to pay your free however i am currently in a bind.
A securities bank in Nigeria has 24 million dollars of my familys money. If you can invest 54,387$ in aid for me to recover my families lost money you will receive my payment in full in addition to the losses incured aiding the recovery of my families money.
Gratefully yours
-Some American Scammer. - Kanna, on 10/12/2007, -7/+130From: RIAA
To: Nigeria
Oh yeah? Whose the bitch now, Nigeria? We can scam $3000 from every fourth email we send out! Screw you and your dead, wealthy relatives.
U! S! A! U! S! A! U! S! A!
- Peldor, Arstechnica Forums - jackhole, on 10/12/2007, -2/+99You now owe the MPAA $50 for that unauthorized reproduction of their intellectual property.
- Submerge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+83What can you expect? College students are already in debt, and you want us to pay a couple thousand dollars for downloading music? I laugh and spit in your face.
*This comment is fully endorsed by the college community. - UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+69You want me to pay you $3,000? Get in line behind my landlord, the electric company, my cell phone provider, and my credit card company.
- Salgat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+63Sheesh demanding 750$ per song? If I stole a candybar worth 1 dollar do I have to pay fines of $750?
- djackmanson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+60Let's drink to the death of the RIAA and their member recording companies.
Mine's a pint. - tatltat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47they come in pints?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44They're students. Do you seriously think they will give up their beer money to the RIAA?
- mannymix03, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44PIRATES!!!!
TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL! - mmpd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT!
Why did I feel that that phrase completed that?
Edit: Independence Day. Bill Pullman. That movie was where it was at back in the day. - striker1211, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30port 23 called, it wants it's graphics back.
- Salgat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31Lmao, if that wasn't in decent english I'd believe it.
- Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30It really isn't bright for someone to go ahead and pony up the cash through the RIAA's payment site. You might as well write them a letter detailing when, how, and how many songs you've "illegally" downloaded. I wouldn't put it past the RIAA to turn around and use your payment as a claim of guilt and go after you for more money.
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Randomly sending letters to people saying you should pay this bill is mail fraud.
- jtrost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Doesn't the RIAA know that the average college student is SEVERELY in debt? They're grasping at straws suing people who don't have any money.
- HungSquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I'm getting one.
- mmpd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Someone should honestly try to send one of those. See if they're desperate enough to make back the *staggering* losses incurred by file sharing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Dear RIAA,
***** YOU!!! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Hell that's not a bad idea though. I'm going to type up some letters telling people to pay me $500 or I'll take them to court. I can pay off my credit card and student loans in no time!
I wonder what I should tell people I'm going to sue them for.... ah forget suing them, I'll just try to sell them cloud insurance.
--
Peter: Good thing I bought that cloud insurance
(the 2 clouds in sky)
Cloud 1: So Bill, we attack tomorrow.
Cloud 2: Yes, tomorrow...
Cloud 1: I mean it this time.
Cloud 2: I do too. - mmpd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17General punishment for shoplifiting:
"If the stolen item is worth less than $5000, the maximum fine is $2000, and the maximum jail term is 6 months. As well, you have to pay a victim surcharge,
which is 15% of your fine (if you get a fine) or $50 – or a higher amount if the judge orders it."
That actually sounds like what the RIAA is doing. Except you know, overblowing it completely by suing the kids and circumventing criminal court for civil court which I would think needs less concrete evidence. In criminal cases they need to prove you actually are the person (not a random IP address) and actually took it (not just visited a torrent site).
Basically they're ridiculous. - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16The RIAA -- what a bunch of dorks. Gimme a friggin' break!
It is as if the mob is offering a discount in the protection money you have to pay them every week...or they are promising that if you don't pay, they will only break your arm, rather than your leg.
If you pay them anything, it just encourages them to keep doing their BS.
They're like the damn Loch Ness Monster... "I need tree fitty!"
Don't give them a dollar! Then they'll never go away!
(Dugg for SouthPark reference? ...Well maybe not! But I tried.) - kazzyD, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14But as long as 1 in 4 send the RIAA money, it won't stop:
http://www.computers.net/2007/03/1_in_4_students.html - dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12While the stealing a candy bar worth $1 is a reasonable analogy, I think a better one is finding some crappy $1 magazine, and rather than stealing it, photographing each page, and leaving the original in the store.
This way the store has lost only a "potential" sale, and there is no evidence that you would have paid for the magazine if you couldn't just photograph the pages and get away with it. The store still has the copy it paid for, and can still sell it to some other customer. No theft has occured, there was no stealing involved, only breach of copyright leading to the loss of a potential sale. Piracy is not stealing, it's copyright infringement, and a non-commerical infringement at that (unless you make a profit from the music you pirate). The punishments outweigh the crime hugely. - Spr0k3t, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11And in the morning... I'm making waffles!
- Viat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Only when they pry it from my cold drunken hand.
- carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8i think many students are just too damn broke to pay the fine even if they're scared as hell of getting a legalese letter.
- Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Well, as I see it, their business model is archaic and their business practices are unethical at best. They claim anyone who downloads illegally is infringing on intellectual property rights, but they themselves screw over their own bands BIG TIME and do what they can to screw over the bands that won't sign under an RIAA label.
- Arkonnan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8> Doesn't the RIAA know that the average college student is SEVERELY in debt? They're grasping at straws suing people who don't have any money.
This is exactly why they target college students. They are more likely to get a quick settlement out of a student because they do not have the resources to defend themselves in a lengthy trial. Also, the point of being a student is to get a nice job once they're finished with college, and a large mark on their record will pretty much ruin any chances they had at getting a decent job.
Considering what a student would stand to lose by going through a long and drawn out litigation process, I can understand why they would want to settle quickly and get it over with. - UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I wouldn't.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9If more institutions were like Univ of Nebraska students wouldn't have to "largely ignore" letters from the RAII, they wouldn't have to worry about them at all!
Go go Herbie the Husker! - kapsar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@justnick it's close to Do not go gentle into the good night by Dylan Thomas. I was thinking the same thing when i read it.
- Cabal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@infinitysnatch
actually our world is made up of a complex network of tubes with no glue required - Bega, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I totally agree, but you could use a better analogy. If you could eat the candy bar again and again and again...hmm...
- cam503, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Its obvious that both methods are indeed breaking the law, but that's not what I was asking.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that right now, in my mind, I believe that the RIAA can only track stolen music through file-sharing networks such as LimeWire. Can they track it through BitTorrent too? - liminaldust, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6you know, instead of graying out buried responses digg should just put them in bright red,
because It's generally more fun reading people's retarded responses rather than the ones that get 50 diggs - justnick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9in other words, what is the best way to break the law?
I say use torrents. If your gonna owe em, owe em big. Just don't settle. Most of the cases are dropped anyhow. - Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6If you're GOING to do illegally download content, make sure you use something like Peerguardian to cover yourself. The industries have been known to take note of the IP addresses of people who download things through bitorrent.
EDIT: not that I condone pirating or anything...*whistles innocently* - JonDee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6OH MY GOD. Its called "reply".
- Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@hdtvdust
I don't watch MTV. Those "bands" they have on their tend to be the top of the food chain, just the tip of the ice berg. To live like that signed under the RIAA, you have to be EXTREMELY popular. I don't remember what the percentages are, but those bands actually are given fractions of what they rake in through album sales. You're better off downloading the music then cutting a check and sending it to the band directly. - InfinitySnatch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Oh no, you misunderstand. We know it's wrong, we just don't care that it's wrong. But we'll be damned if the RIAA gets our money. ***** don't get handouts.
- krawkula, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9At $750 a song the RIAA is funny if it thinks its gonna get money from me. I find it a joke and say pull it right outta my white pirate ass.
Now, ill agree pirating isnt something everyone should do its just the "people with no money shouldnt be able to listen to music" attitude I dont like. If I saw a letter that said I have been found guilty of downloading 87 songs, listed those songs with accuracy and gave me an $87 bill, id think about it. I would probably miss out on a bill or have something cut off for a month or so, but its a risk your assuming that you may be billed. But a list of those songs and a $65,250... pffffff. - Ajajadude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Technically, it's not stealing. It's infringing on intellectual property rights.
And I never said it was ok.
I just find the whole thing humorous: a billion dollar company, hell, a million dollar company has the resources to knock ANYONE to the ground if they feel their property rights have been infringed upon. But if that company is the one doing the infringing, they know the average Joe will NOT be able to do anything about it unless they get backing from some advocacy group with ties to deep pockets. I could not counter-sue the RIAA into oblivion if they chose to take me to court for something I didn't do (or they couldn't prove I did).
EDIT: So, it's ok to do it if the person isn't trying to make money off of it? Hmmm, if they had a copyright stamped on it, it shouldn't matter. Who's being the hypocrite? - williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Let's drink to the death of their lawyers.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Remember people...anyoen who was OUTRAGED a few days ago that a Kodak store used a Flickr photo in order to demonstrate the size that could be ordered has absolutely NO right to be upset over the RIAA and MPAA ever again.
ESPECIALLY those who was telling the photographer to sue the store.
You forfeited those rights. - abstraxion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5This article makes some stupid conclusions, including the fact they think that RIAA has a real image problem.
They don't.
Why do you think the RIAA has taken over the suing? Because, to the layperson, the RIAA and major record labels are two different things. When Atlantic or Subpop sues people, that's a problem. When some random trade organization sues someone FOR Atlantic or Subpop, that's image management. RIAA has no "street cred" or "coolness" to maintain, so they do the dirty work, including the dirty work for some of people's most beloved labels.
In addition, this article thinks this campaign is a failure because it's only supposedly garnered around $350,000. Wrong again. The RIAA could give a ***** about how much money they make through this insta-settle campaign directly, it's about reducing the number of illegal downloads, however slight. If they can get a few thousand kids to move to legitimate record sales instead of illegal downloads, it's worth it to them.
The fact is, that this stuff will continue, wrong or right, until copyright law is changed. Raging against the RIAA isn't going to do anything, because they don't care what you think about them. - ceribik, on 11/17/2007, -2/+5You all still forgot that downloading music isn't stealing. It's copyright infringement.
- Yoshi39, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"You forfeited those rights."
Let's see if you can spot the difference
Persona downloads a copyrighted image prints it to poster size and hangs it in his room for him self to enjoy.
Company b downloads a copyrighted image and starts using it in promotional campaign to make money.
Answer: The difference is that company b uses the image to _make money_ will person a only uses it for his on personal enjoyment. - d03boy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm going to go download another CD in tribute to the RIAA appearing on Digg again. Brb.
- sv650touring, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Independence Day (the movie) AND Bill Pullman both suck balls
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