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- MattyLite, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Blocked. For anyone that doesn't feel like un-hiding this idiot's comment, he posted a very precise value of Pi.
- flernk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Um... yeah. blocked. You're a dick.
- drakia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7.. comment size should REALLY be limited to a certain amount of characters (something reasonable, but something that will stop this ^^)
- AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11All I can say is that it provides some of us with job-stability. And it's kind of cool to be able to say that I can look at porn at work because porn is in a lot of spam. But no one really knows whether it's mail or a site I look at. Damn, I love my job.
Oh, um, I didn't just say that, did I? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6When the hell can we all get hold of Black Frog?!
- Rikushix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"Never invest on stocks based on spam"
Who in their right mind would do that? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4if you use gmail and actively use the report spam button you get to zero spam in your inbox
I freaking love that feature - Ozzy73, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Mmmmmkay....
- portis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nothing SpamAssassin and FuzzyOCR can't fix. :D
- zephc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Spam is a half-hour inconvenience at work for me (though we just installed a Barracuda so I can finally say goodbye to our software "solution")
- gfixler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This is what everyone who says "just use SpamAssassin," or some other variant is missing. They just haven't been targeted yet. Someone's been spoofing emails through my domain since November. This week I hit the 100,000 bounced spams mark. It's about 1500 per day. There is nothing I can do to stop them. They're all sent out with random gibberish before the @mydomain part, and they're coming in from people all over the world, who've been spammed, and who think I'm doing it. It's made my account very difficult to use.
I do use my Gmail account more and more, especially for personal emails, but I still conduct a lot of business through my actual domain, too. I have no way of retaliating - the people bouncing them are either victims bouncing real spam - just back to another victim (me), or they're dead accounts, bounced by their parent server. I do have about 100 or so filters in place to trash probably 95% of them now, which has given me a nice cross-section sampling of the various bounce/fail messages used by servers in a variety of languages.
There isn't any law that can help me, and the only real way to combat this is to go vigilante. I might consider doing it, but think of all the digg articles I'd miss while out executing swift justice. Also, if I ran a DDOS attack on their damn Pharmacy/Viagra/Cialis sites (assuming I could learn how to do that), then I'd probably be breaking a law, or two myself. It's a sad state of affairs. - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think i saw jesus in there somewhere
- cybe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've been using KnujOn (http://knujon.com) for a couple of months. They seem to be using similar tactics as BlueFrog used and have shut down over 14.000 junkmail sites since March 1, 2005.
- Vulcan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Challenge-response systems breaks mailing lists. Also, most spam has false sender information -- envelope-sender, From: header, and Reply-To header. Sending a challenge to the forged sender means you've dumped your spam problem onto someone else's lap.
- damentz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3PI Spam must be very effective this year.
- tylercrowley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3maybe some of these guys...http://bigbignews.blogspot.com/2007/01/special-report-top-5-stock-picks-for_08.html
- brianez21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@gfixler:
Try setting up an SPF record. That will help your bounce issues.
Check out http://www.openspf.org for more info - LordSnooze, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_To_Build_A_Spam_Filtering_Mail_Gateway
- solarpowered, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Make it a criminal offense"
Um, where?
Spambots: Untraceable
Foreign countries: Untouchable - AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Aardvark1878:
An estimated 3-7% of people buy the crap in those e-mails. So it's VERY profitable. - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Forgot to mention...the spam was sandboxed in a webmail junk folder. Not deleted, but also not downloaded to their POP inbox. So the net effect of greylisting and a *modest* spam filter was an 85% reduction in spam to the user's inbox with a 0.08% false positive rate. And specific to greylisting, the server rejects at SMTP -- and saves subsequent processing on -- 2500 messages daily.
AOL and Yahoo both use greylisting, although Yahoo's implementation can be a pain in the ass. - vdxc, on 09/29/2008, -0/+2My spam has decreased dramatically from this time last year. I use to get around 250 - 1000 emails per day, now i'm "lucky" if I get 10. And thanks to Gmail, I've never had any in my inbox.
From the spam that I do get, it is mainly eBay, Paypal, Amazon, IRS (even though i'm British), Bank of America, with the occasional Viagra (usually spelt incorrectly) offer mixed in. - AlfaWolph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nice cut and paste of http://3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.com/
Let's show some originality next time. - ramaz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I congratulate the gmail users who get so little spam.
However, to me, spam is not ultimately an inbox problem. Sure, it's target is our inboxes, but the real problem is that 1) OUR Internet, at least the mail-server side of our Internet, is simply sagging under the weight of what the spammers, phishers, 419 scammers, etc. are doing, and 2) legitimate domains are having their reputations messed with by being spoofed by the spammers and phishers.
Even those of you who are avoiding spam most successfully are still victims of this hijacking of our Internet. It's costing all of us and it's out of control.
I'm completely with dugdig, that we need a new internet mail infrastructure, and yesterday wouldn't be soon enough. - knucklebusted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2First, there is no magic bullet for spam.
The only true way to get rid of spam is to go after the sleaze that pays the other sleaze to send the spam. If someone is hawking a product via spam, go after the ones that make the product. Make it less profitable to use spam. Make it a criminal offense to advertise via spam. That will cut down on the commercial spam but it won't fix the virus/419/phishing spam. Cut out the wallet and they go elsewhere until the money dries up and they starve out of the business.
Personally, with the domains I manage, we see about 7-8 million emails a month. In October it started creeping up. By November it was 15 million a month and in December it was 30 million a month. We are accepting about 1-2% of that per month. Most of it is classified as non-RFC compliant which means that it is malformed or otherwise invalid. You will never stop all spam because it costs the sender next to nothing. A secured OS without the potential for botnet infection would be a darned good start. Having ISP's block port 25 to any other than their own servers from the client side, unless you ask to have it opened, would kill a lot of spam as well. Removed the legs and and body can't travel far. - Tarnum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder why no law enforcement agency is after these criminals. The stock pump'n'dump scheme is clearly a crime, phishing is crime, the fake penal medicines are illegal too. And yet nobody is arrested. Why?
- srg13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I got my first spam message get through Gmail's spam filter a few days ago. It was just an image with no text. Gmail's filter is excellent though. I've never got any spam into my inbox with it, or got any legitimate messages ending up in spam in my Gmail account.
- D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Didn't I just hear that the government just convicted a spammer or crimes? Did I imagine that? I find this hard to believe....
- Nocturnal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You see, the problem is that there are idiots who fall for spam each and every day. I mean I would have to guess, half of the Internet population fall for stupid get rich quick schemes and phishing e-mails. I mean until they get educated and start getting a little bit more Internet-smart then spam will continue to prosper.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1he was convicted for phishing, not for spam.
spam isn't illegal, you just need to read the fine print when you sign up for stuff - cr125er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wonder how long it will take ALL of humanity to delete spam on contact, thus resolving our spam problem. If everyone was keen to spam like you or me, how fast do you think the spam industry would ***** dissolve? Star educating, start stopping the problem.
- jakatak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2the only 100% way of getting rid of spam is only accepting emails from people on your white list.
They have services that will screen your emails. If you have the sender on your white list then the company will let the email through. If you don't, then the company will send the new sender a confirmation email. If no one replies and it's spam then the company trashes it and I never see it. If a real person replies, then the company sends the email to me to either white list then new sender or black list them. It sounds complicated, but it's not and it's full proof. I just don't know the name of the company who does it. - Firehed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Heh... that reminds me, I am kind of in the mood for some pie *rimshot*.
Ironically enough, though, that was about the only spam I've seen in the best part of two years. Well, the irony being that it was actually useful, in reminding me that I need to unglue myself from the laptop for a while and eat something before I starve to death.
But just to spite you, I'm getting cookies instead. - einsteindesign, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1One word: greylisting.
We enabled greylisting last week on a small test server. On a volume of 3000 emails per day, 85% were spam, 12% legit, and 3% questionable (based on SpamAssassin weights). 2000+ were scoring 20+ in SpamAssassin.
When we enabled greylisting, the volume dropped to ~750 per day, with 50% spam, 8% questionable, and 42% legit. There are downsides, but everything's relative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting - PhireN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not true, on my very first hotmail account, eventually spam started leaking through the high spam filter, so I set it to the exclusive filter level, which is a white list. Those were the days when you got no more than 5 spam emails a day, so I could just check the junk box for anything the shouldn't be there. About 3 weeks later I started getting spam emails address to me, from me, reply to me, I couldn't even set up a custom filter to stop them, so I dumped that account.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That's the most hilarious thing I've seen in a while.
- stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Barracuda can only help, you still may have to do regular clearing of a que because these filters at times will catch legitimate email. Spam is so damn annoying.
- apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if they sold their antispam solution, they'd make even more millions!
- apoc06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i think your joke would have gone over better if you used the term 'lightsabers'
- Woknblues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1to any spam experts.....I googled my first and last name once and found it (I have a very unusual name) with my correct email address on some "porn like" data base. It was a blog like site that had user contributed links and I was apparently one of the "users".I am absolutely sure that I did not sign up to contribute porn to this site, nor have I ever divulged any information to porn sites. What exactly does this mean? how did this happen? anyone know? by the way, i receive one (one only) spam a week from this weird story line/business report thing. anyone else get this? Its like a stock performance with some bizarre story to it. I can't get rid of it.
- danlucas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dugg the article because it's the first time I've seen an explanation of why spam actually works. It only explains the stock spam though. I still wonder if people are really buying the bad drugs and following the porn.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2What spammers don't seem to understand is that slinging poop at me won't make me reach for my credit card and buy their products. If the only thing they could think of to get my attention was to throw sweet ***** at me by the shovel, they need to get back to the drawing board again.
- AriaStar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ zephc:
Try Matador. Better than Barracuda. And no, my company's name is not something that starts with an M either. - indicas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you catch it early enough, you can also ride the wave.
- solarpowered, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Low priority, and many jurisdictions... many foreign, who don't care.
- Hershey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I get no spam.
- PaulLev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Noise is an inherent part of the universe - it might even be beneficial, in that it stimulates growth of immunities. Spam is annoying. It will always be with us in one form or another. We'll survive.
- maxhrk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i think it's 'Empire of Spam Strikes Back' episode right now.. just wait until it's 'Return of Anti-spam Jedi' in two years near you. so gentlemen prepares your knifes.
- guisar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0With Yahoo mail, there's more spam than mail and yet the filters continue to delete mail from people I do what to receive it from. Why not add an option to receive mail ONLY from those in your address book? It wouldn't solve every problem but at least I might have one address which isn't over half spam. Who reads this stuff anyway?
- aaronmarks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Exchange IMF gets rid of all my spam. Thank you Microsoft!
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