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- dagnabbit, on 12/09/2008, -4/+32Lot of sony haters gonna show up here, but that sucks for all those people.
- inactive, on 12/09/2008, -9/+33Five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.
- BealzesBud, on 12/09/2008, -16/+39I feel bad for the lower-end workers at Sony. But for the Sony Corporation, I feel a little vindictive glee.
When the whole rootkit* thing went public with Sony, I told them I would never buy another Sony product unless they apologized for the rootkits AND made restitution before losing court battles. They didn't apologize or make restitution until AFTER losing said battles.
Therefore, Sony is not a company I will purchase from, now or in the future. As far as I'm concerned, the Sony management team should be fired, if not jailed.
(*Remember? The music CDs had programs that would install on your computer. The programs were an attempt to "protect" Sony's "rights" to the music. Instead, it allowed hackers to get into the infected computers.) - Nathrat, on 12/09/2008, -11/+29Should have saved their money instead of buying off studios for blu-ray.
- frieddonuts, on 12/09/2008, -1/+15The PS3 cannot possibly be sold at the same price point as a comparable 360. Sony went the features route, with integrated Wifi, built-in Blu-Ray drive, free PSN, etc. When you add it all up, they've gotta cover those costs somewhere, and they're still selling at a loss.
- AndrewDB, on 12/09/2008, -1/+14Attack the crab for MASSIVE damage!
- saisumimen, on 12/09/2008, -0/+12You mean "RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!"
- championchap, on 12/09/2008, -1/+13Attack it's weak point for MASSIVE damage!
- astrixx, on 12/09/2008, -1/+12Based on famous battles that actually took place in ancient japan. So here we have this giant enemy crab...
- maley, on 12/09/2008, -6/+17Every company is going through rough times right now. And it's really killing Sony that the Yen is the strongest it has ever been. Sony predicted 105 yen per dollar but the yen is currently going for 92 yen a dollar, this is killing them.
Hoping the PS3/TV aren't affected by this. With that said, I can't wait to watch TDK on blu-ray this Friday :) - mrmuhnrmuh, on 12/09/2008, -3/+13Ridge Racer!
- wintersland, on 12/09/2008, -2/+12Xbox360 has sold over 24million and the playstation3 has sold just over 17.5million according to vgchartz.com. Check anywhere and you will see the PS3 lagging behind the 360 in sales.
Nice invented stats btw, pity nobody is retarded enough to believe them. - ryan631, on 12/09/2008, -1/+10night elfs are in WoW dude.
God, get your mmorpgs right!.
it's either a wood/high/dark elf.
and nightelf isn't even a class damnit, its a race.
what kind of nerd are you anyways!? - opsknight, on 12/09/2008, -5/+14Blu Ray has lost market share since the collapse of HDDVD. That will obviously change with Christmas coming..but the High price point of Blu Ray discs is killing the tech right now.
- calypsoschnitzl, on 12/10/2008, -1/+9Sony produces, creates and owns a LOT more things than PS3's...
- opsknight, on 12/09/2008, -4/+12Regardless, the PS3 is pricing itself out of the game right now, blu ray capable or not.the average consumer is just looking for the best deal on a "Game Console" meaning the Blu Ray player is moot. I think M$ had the best strategy which was to offer the HDDVD as an optional add on, keeping the cost of the console down. Sony overestimated the impact Blu Ray would have on the market and that was before adding in a recession.
- JJ2K1, on 12/09/2008, -4/+12couldn't agree more. and to recoup those losses they are hammering the consumer with $35 blu-ray titles. kiss my ass.
- bman2380, on 12/09/2008, -6/+13I blame their rigidness in not planning on lowering the price of the PS3...Just like before they launched they said people will work extra hours at their jobs to buy a ps3 now they are saying that even when manufacturing the ps3 is lower, they not giving a price cut...well I got one thing to say....Sony is finishing 3rd (which non-sony fan boys already knew) in the console war.
- opticwind, on 12/10/2008, -0/+7This is bigger news than you think. Japanese companies, Sony especially, pride themselves on solving economic issues without ever downsizing or firing. It's simply not done. Companies will literally re-invent themselves to save these workers. I don't believe it's altruism, so much as tradition.
These are bad omens, when Japanese companies lay off 8,000 workers. - philomatic, on 02/08/2009, -2/+8It will pay off eventually
- eadnams, on 12/09/2008, -2/+8Where are you getting that stat from?
- FuZi0nDET, on 12/09/2008, -10/+15You mean the Blu-Ray players that are flying off shelves right now?
- eadnams, on 12/09/2008, -2/+7indeed.
- Sparky9292, on 12/09/2008, -6/+11The rootkit decision was a VERY bad one. I'm glad that people have stopped buying their proprietary crap. Just look at Apple -- they now removed DRM from everything.
- appleseed1234, on 12/10/2008, -1/+6No, it doesn't?
- shaka999, on 12/09/2008, -0/+5When did Apple remove DRM from everything on iTunes?
- blaker, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4Attention whore
*Points at comment above* - BESTenemy, on 12/10/2008, -0/+4 No harsh criticism, but my observations are quite similar. My father has a Sony stereo from the early 80's - built of solid metal. Still works. No worn out components. All the mechanical parts are still intact. In the early 90's I bought a Sony camcorder. The kit had everything in it. Multiple attachments, a mini editing table, all the cables etc. I've bought 3 more Sony cameras since then. Each following time there were fewer extras bundled and the durability got progressively worse.
Longevity of the product is no longer the target for electronics manufacturers. They design their product to last only until the next iteration hits the shelves. Sony's not unique in that aspect. Everyone does it.
If you ask me, Apple is way worse. They figured no product of theirs should last longer than the rechargeable battery in it, so they began sealing them, ensuring the majority of customers throw the thing away long before it gets a chance to die of "natural causes".
Most companies today manufacture glittering trash. The faster their product can travel off the shelf through the consumer hands into the dumpster, the more money they make.
I still hold onto my can opener from 1945 - as good as new. They don't make anything like that anymore. Back then, overproduction wasn't of much concern. It is now. - crapuccino, on 12/09/2008, -1/+5Me too.
My TV, surround sound, DVD player, satellite decoder, PS2 all Sony. When they are replaced, it will be with anybody other than Sony.
The way they have treated their customers in the recent past is unforgiveable.
I feel sorry for the low level workers who will bear the brunt of these cost cutting exercises. The upper level management who are responsible for their lousy business decisions of late will doubtless keep their jobs or will have a handsome exit package. - MxM111, on 12/09/2008, -1/+5"I dont know why Sony sold the PS3 for so low." Because even with this "so low" price it still loses competition to Wii/360.
- Syraxis, on 12/09/2008, -0/+4Featuring real time weapon change!
- eadnams, on 12/09/2008, -1/+4Beat me wintersland, was about to post the same.
- NathanCH, on 12/09/2008, -4/+7And I guarantee they all have at least one Sony product in their homes.
FYI People:
Sony != Playstation - DragonForce4, on 12/10/2008, -1/+4five hundred and ninety nine US inches
- cthellis, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3You can't really COMPETE with competition if you're priced staggeringly above them, regardless of what kind of "bundle value" you may represent. You're only going to be seen as valuable to the people who want ALL the features, and "expensive" to the people who may only want one or two.
Remember the PSX? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(DVR) ) It was overall a spiffy machine, and could have made decent headway, but... not at a frickin' $900 starting price. - inactive, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3I havnt touched Sony merchandise since the Rootkit incident, I always assumed I was not the only one either
- fuzzynyanko, on 12/10/2008, -0/+3Well, the WiFi isn't the huge owie. It's the Blu-ray drive and the required hard drive.
- vjk2005, on 12/10/2008, -0/+2That figure includes the contract workers as well. { 8000 permanent + 8000 temp and contract workers}.
- eleraama, on 12/10/2008, -1/+3I hope it doesn't affect their R&D budgets. Whatever your thoughts about the quality of Sony products or the rootkit fiasco, they've been consistently turning out cutting-edge technology since the 80's. Could any other company have done a Walkman, PlayStation, Reader, and Blu-Ray and still turned a profit? I don't know. But Sony is the one who came up with them, and as someone who has a low saving throw vs shiny!, I'll always look to them for the newest consumer gadgets. (Yes, there are others who make better things, or more advanced things, but Sony brings them to the masses.)
- cthellis, on 12/10/2008, -1/+3...a bad one?
A nerd doesn't have to play MMORPGs, but they should CERTAINLY know to cross-check a sarcastic comment on Google or Wikipedia for technical accuracy! ;-) - dualscreenman, on 12/10/2008, -0/+2Like air conditioning in a car!
- Lunarsight, on 12/10/2008, -1/+3Sniper - Doesn't matter. It's the principle of the matter.
Sony did it sneakily behind our backs, and they would probably still being doing it had they not gotten caught.
Once you break the trust of consumers, it's very hard to win that back. I'm of the personal opinion that if Sony had a way to pull a stunt like this again, and guarantee they wouldn't get caught, they'd do it without a second thought. - IHaveCrayons, on 12/09/2008, -1/+3If they didn't pay off those studios their losses would be even worse.
- unitedatheism, on 12/10/2008, -1/+2Now Apple's the only one to sell overpriced crap!
What? Didn't they tried to lower the prices?!?!?
Some philosophies never change.... - ncnavguy, on 12/10/2008, -1/+2Actually Sony > Playstation
- catbeller, on 12/10/2008, -0/+1None of these things.
It's called a "worldwide depression." - cthellis, on 12/10/2008, -3/+4Actually, unless you're not interesting in playing games online with the 360, it still IS the PS3, even just for gamers. But like the people who think the iPhone dropped to "half the price" with the 3G, almost no one looks at Total Cost of Ownership over "initial box price."
People have a tendency to look at all the SKU prices and comparisons irrationally as well, though admittedly they're a more annoying additional confusion. - SpongeBad, on 12/10/2008, -1/+2Where the hell are you getting those stats? Blu-ray disk sales (as a percentage of optical disc sales) has been steadily increasing all year, and is routinely in the 10-15% range per week now (as opposed to 1 - 5% for Blu-ray and HD-DVD combined last year), and players have been selling extremely well when compared to DVD at the same point in its lifecycle.
- cthellis, on 12/10/2008, -1/+2Yes, shaving off 4% of their work force in the middle of global economic downturns which have completely detonated American banking and financial institutions, car companies, and others surely spells their doom.
Also, you do realize how many formats tech companies stick their hands in and hope become viable, right? Most of which do not? (Not to mention "that which does not become a consumer standard" but "still retains its own market for a while" or "pushes out 100 million+ units before disappearing" can hardly be called either failures or "casualties of war." Just "not adopted as a global consumer standard.")
That makes them EVIL, I tell you! - daniel, on 12/10/2008, -0/+1"pull out of unprofitable businesses"
Finally dumping DRM, eh? -
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