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- Nephlabobo, on 06/16/2009, -3/+162***** Sony and ***** the RIAA.
- TobiasParker, on 06/16/2009, -2/+113What you guys don't pay $2,100,000 per CD? I guess i should stop shopping at Best Buy.
- itc518, on 06/16/2009, -2/+108That is ridiculous, 150k per song? Someone at Sony is smoking some serious crack.
- Beylan, on 06/16/2009, -1/+73The music industry doesn't have customers, they have victims.
- ygeoff419, on 06/16/2009, -4/+7599 cents a song, at the very most seems fair.
- Lendon2020, on 06/16/2009, -2/+67Dear lawyers,
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Thank you - Nephersir7, on 06/16/2009, -1/+58I didn't see the K after the $150 in the headline and i still found it outrageous
- e68895f, on 06/16/2009, -1/+50Well this comes from a lawyer... they have no idea what things cost in the real world...
- doublefelix, on 06/16/2009, -2/+48Labels want statutory damages that can range from $750 to $150,000 per song. Ah, I understand that you're having difficulties quantifying damages but do you think you could ballpark it a little better than that? Just waiting to see a sign on the highway:
Litter and You Will Pay!
Fines $75 to $100,000 - Qwiggalo, on 06/16/2009, -0/+40Who the ***** uses KaZaA?
- Djent, on 06/16/2009, -1/+38Don't punish me because your business model doesn't work anymore. As a consumer I am not responcible to ensure your business stays static. When the car was invented we didn't pass laws requiring people to still ride horses. Get with the program and stop putting the blame on me, the consumer.
- Sivaram, on 06/16/2009, -1/+31And does all this goes to the artist or to your pocket ? Thieves !!!!
And150 k$ per song ? wht next one song = entire property of the accused ? - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -0/+30I do, they are pressed in platinum, white rhino skin, antimatter, and dusted with high purity cocaine.
- V0lk, on 06/16/2009, -0/+29This is nothing but an abuse of the system.
- Aadain, on 06/16/2009, -4/+33To the lawyer: ***** YOU!
I can make up numbers too: A lawyer is only worth $3.56 per pound. Seems pretty reasonable to me. The fatter the lawyer, the more you make. Can't fight that logic. Nope. Indisputable. If you don't agree, your just a bigot who hates fat lawyers.
God I hate lawyers. - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -0/+29Maybe that is why, drugs are expensive
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -0/+25***** the MPAA
- mywhitenoise, on 06/16/2009, -1/+22It is ***** ridiculous. I own over 500 albums, those 500 albums combined didn't cost me anywhere near $150,000...more like $6,000.
- angusm, on 06/16/2009, -2/+23Hmm ... $150,000 per song. Let's do some math ...
A 2004 study showed that around 23 million people in the US regularly used file-sharing to download music. Let's call that 25 million today, and let's say that each pirate shares 100 songs (at $150,000 per song). Unless I made a mistake in the calculations, that's US$375 trillion worth of value, in the US alone. Worldwide, the figure might be 10 times that, or even more.
The GDP of the US is only $14 trillion, so US music pirates are costing the record companies more than 25 times the GDP of the United States. To look at it another way, the economic cost of the 9/11 attacks has been estimated as only $2 trillion, so the activities of music pirates are equivalent to more than 180 massively destructive terrorist attacks.
It's clear to me now why we're in a recession - the music pirates have destroyed so much potential value that the whole economy is foundering. And I find it astonishing that Obama, and Bush before him, can just complacently sit there and let these hardened criminals ruin the national and global economies. When, oh when, will someone have the courage to take decisive action against these ruthless domestic terrorists? - Eorster, on 06/16/2009, -1/+20I bet more people would agree 250k per for installing unauthorized root kits on people's computers would be more in line with fair compensation for damages. Think about that for a second, which of the two truly did more damage? Ohh well, I know I don't buy Sony products.
- AmazingSteve, on 06/16/2009, -1/+19Dear Recording Industry,
We are eating your lunch for you. We will continue to do so unmolested. All you are doing is spending A LOT of money to create more of us. Laws won't be changed to suit your needs, we are laughing at your continued lawsuits. Come and join the future or it's going to roll right over top of you. Adapt or die, we don't care. Either way, we get what we want. - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -10/+28Dear Sony,
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Thank you - Nydendarin, on 06/16/2009, -1/+18Hey Sony, I'm just gonna send ya a bill for the rootkit you installed on my computer that allowed undesired exploitations. I'd say my computer is worth at least the cost of 50 CDs worth of songs, so, hell, let's just call it a cool 5 million. Wire transfer preferred. Thanks.
- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -1/+18***** sony and ***** lawyers!
- cygnus2112, on 06/16/2009, -2/+18Igloo: I don't think many here will argue that songs/music should be paid for. As the article/defense states, she has 200+ CD's. I own 400-500 music CD's. I own hundreds of movies on DVD.
But the music/movie industry is disconnected from the reality and convenience of the internet. Sometimes I really want to listen to a song at work. Let's say it's Led Zeppelin's Bron Y Aur. Now, I have about 3-4 legal copies of that song in various forms. But they're all at home. I could rip it, copy it to a flash drive or cdr/dvdr and bring it into work for the next time I get the urge to listen. Or I could just burn the entire library to DVD and just carry around a case.
But my life is too busy to be involved. So what do I do? I search on YouTube - but of course they're blocking copyrighted music now.
I really want to listen to this song. One that I've paid for several times.
I'm going to download it and listen to it and be happy, because it's an excellent ***** song.
The Best of CCR, excellent CD. I own it. I'll download it if I need to hear it and I don't have it ripped.
Convenience.
***** the RIAA. ***** Sony's lawyers. ***** Sony. And ***** people who think that just because they obey every letter of the law and it works for them, that people will want to have a similar lifestyle and smug self-righteousness. - KMartSheriff, on 06/16/2009, -1/+16***** the WNBA
- dagamer34, on 06/16/2009, -1/+15Thing is, last I checked, you don't even get that big a fine if you're SELLING this stuff. And to assume that each song cost them anywhere near $150,000 should be grounds to have them admitted to the psych ward!
- Rudegar, on 06/16/2009, -2/+15well the money they're loosing on blueray and ps3 they really like to get that kind of cash :P
- PsychoPNut, on 06/16/2009, -0/+13***** the A.L.P.H.A.B.E.T.
- FLarsen, on 06/16/2009, -0/+11You download through TOR? Is it not slow enough already?
If you want to download securely, do it through a proxy. You don't need the kind of protection TOR offers for file sharing. - AndrewDB, on 06/16/2009, -0/+11***** everything.
- appleofdischord, on 06/16/2009, -1/+11$150k is often more than the entire property of the accused, considering they go after college students and the elderly (and sometimes the dead).
- Vorpallion, on 06/16/2009, -1/+11150k per song is nothing more than robbery and extortion. Every time I read about one of these ridiculous heavy handed attempts by the RIAA and the music industry it makes me feel more sympathetic to music 'pirates', in spite of myself.
- witwit, on 06/16/2009, -2/+11***** RIAA.
Use VPN and Darknets and Rapidshare throgh TOR instead! - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -1/+10Yeah, such a gross difference between them leads me to believe these are totally made up.
- mywhitenoise, on 06/16/2009, -1/+8***** the FBI
- zerton, on 06/16/2009, -2/+9if you take my bike that I made, that would be stealing. If you just copied my bike exactly and I still had mine, is that really stealing?
- copypastry, on 06/16/2009, -0/+7And please, no more egg salad sandwiches.
- oldhick, on 06/16/2009, -0/+6Did you read the article? It is Sony who think's this is justified...
"as one of Sony Music Entertainment's top lawyers said that $150,000 per song certainly seemed appropriate to him." - jba68, on 06/16/2009, -0/+6***** ***** *****
- MScrip, on 06/16/2009, -0/+6I wish Bill Gates would just swoop in and pay her fine.
Then, use this case as advertising for the ZunePass.
"Hi... are you tired of being scared while illegally downloading songs? Well, fear no more. With the ZunePass, you can get all your favorite songs, legally, with only a small fee each month. Take that, lawyers." - loganz, on 06/16/2009, -0/+5they are just trying to make a point. there is no way they would be able to recover that money anyway.
- Elfman9, on 06/16/2009, -1/+6Shouldn't she be entitled to a jury of her Peer-to-peers????????
- Whorebane, on 06/16/2009, -1/+6I don't get how shoplifting 200 CDs from Walmart will get you substantially less penalties than downloading 5 songs.
- cygnus2112, on 06/16/2009, -3/+8And before you rip into me. I was one of the first developers who worked with Microsoft DRM in a small digital download market before iTunes was even around. I am very intimate in what the labels want and their unreasonable business model for trying to offer music legally.
That's why recent successful launches now offer DRM free mp3 downloads. Some labels are finally "getting it." Sony isn't one of them. - hansauph, on 06/16/2009, -0/+5***** it !
- andrewlotta, on 06/16/2009, -1/+6I'd personally say 98 cents at the VERY most.
- elliotys, on 06/16/2009, -4/+9More like Phony.
- Unimatrix0, on 06/16/2009, -0/+5***** AT&T
- mywhitenoise, on 06/16/2009, -0/+4who's digging you up? I've uploaded MANY torrents. I doubt I've uploaded to 150,000 people with all the seeds I've done combined.
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