What is Digg?21 Comments
- ddales, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Until they're sued by some patent troll who holds the rights to "collaborative online product reviews".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'll stick with my forums, this is silly
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Illumio... tell me which of my friends are experts in bi-racial lesbian pr0n...
Wow, my good friend Tom! I had no idea. Lemme give that guy a call...
Seems like a bad idea to me. - dakkon2399, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sounds pretty cool, but the idea of some foreign server indexing my emails and documents makes me nervous to say the least (by foreign I of course mean outside my home or work). Regardless of how well meaning an entity is, you'd still have to rely on their security to protect sensitive information. I'm curious when they say "indexing", how much actual data is being collected from the items and what is that data? I doubt I'd adopt such technology until security questions like these are answered.
- kwojniak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Direct link: http://www.illumio.com/web/home.jsp
- robomason, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4A cursory glance at the system requirements revealed this:
"illumio requires the following components to run:
1. Microsoft XP with Service Pack 2 or Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or higher
If you're not sure whether your operating system is up-to-date, you can check by visiting www.windowsupdate.com and clicking on "express" to run windows update.
2. Google Desktop or Microsoft Desktop Search
illumio uses a desktop search engine to determine whether you are a match to a request. If you are matched to a request, no one knows this except for you. However, if for some reason you would like to exclude certain files from illumio, you can tune your desktop search engine to exclude specific folders or files on your computer. "
The fact that you need to be running (Google|Microsoft) Desktop Search seems pretty shady to me. I couldn't seem to find a justification for it either. - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This software is just itching to be hijacked by id-stealing *****.
Sounds like a bad idea to me. - amanie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't see this as a 'great concept'. Considering almost everyone here can think of about 20 different reasons why/how it is a bad idea, I'm not sure how 'great' that is. So it's passive collaboration? Is that the idea? If you want to be an expert on something, wouldn't you just join a community somewhere and *be* an expert?
- Genma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2exactly, what advantage would this have over some other well moderated collaborative site like epinions? this prospect makes no sense to me whatsoever. wtf kind of files on your machine has anything to do with the kind of communication they're describing? this whole things screams of "data mining," never mind how many days it would take the shills to completely abuse this community, turning this ad-hoc network into another cesspool of misinformation. what's to stop people from filling their drives with nonsensical junk representing real info? can you hear the devs back there cackling "mwahahahah, all your files are belong to us."
looking into the finer details it gets even more scary. basically what they want to do is launch a collaborative desktop index with no idea how to make it secure, as if there was really a way. the main deposits of information they plan to use as the collaborative sources are personal email and browser cache, like they could really be some sort of authority on knowledge. wow great idea sign me up! more info in the blog links -
http://www.illumio.com/blog/2006/04/what_is_illumio.html
http://graemethickins.typepad.com/graeme_blogs_here/2006/03/pc_forum_illumi.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=2711
about Tacit: "Customers include Lockheed Martin, Morgan Stanley, Northrop Grumman, and the U.S. Government, and its partners are IBM, SAIC, and Sun. Investors include Draper Fisher Jurvetson, Woodside Fund, RBC Technology Ventures, Alta Partners, Reuters Venture Capital, and In-Q-Tel." - dbug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No way I'm gonna install a third party software for something that can be done without it.
- coldfusion1970, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1No Mac version, but i'd be too scared to install it anyway.
- JoeWall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1as a matter of fact, yahoo answers does it already. and it works much more than the google equivalent. and it is on a plain public websites. not with some kind of obscure software
- JohnnySoftware, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This trend towards data mining personal relationships is getting creepy. In this case, I really do not buy their concept of "experts".
Intelligence/knowledge/expertise is not one-dimensional, hence - neither can credibility based on these things be one dimensional.
From what I have heard, I would not want to get on a sailboat Einstein was piloting. People whose technical opinions I valued quite a bit had boring reading lists. My brother and I buy completely different products; their similarity ends with the power cord or the tailpipe - we would practically never buy the same kind of anything.
The article does not mention how the company plans to make revenue from their service. For something like Digg or Amazon, it is obvious - sidebar ads and selling products to customers. With that service, less so. - unangst, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Any website where knowledgable users post reviews & recommendations shouldn't take 100% of the referral traffic - certainly not when these authors are well respected (online or co-workers).
- alexko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree, epinions.com and 3form.com did this since 1999, and kin.naver.com and answers.yahoo.com started the same service recently. The novely maybe in aggregating only the expertise of your friends, rather than everyone who had contributed to reduce signal to noise ratio.
- Run4yourlives, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Um, couldn't I just email all of my friends and be done with it?
If I can't get an answer after that, I'm more than capable of making up my own mind, even if it may not be the most informed decision... it's worked so far. - MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Well. I don't know about this...
- beesforbreath, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'm sure they're asking you for recommendations because they respect you.
why undermine that respect for a greedy cut? - Wolfman~K, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Great concept, undeniably shady implementation.... don't like this one one bit.
opinion blogged here http://net-K.us/blog - unangst, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've been asked for tech related recommendations.
I'd be all for a simple (web) interface for friends and colleagues to see my top picks...
... and maybe get a cut of the profits too? All I want is 5% of the laptop & desktop purchases... - sbostedor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Anyone heard of epinions? This is nothing new or revolutionary.
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