What is Digg?169 Comments
- PLUMCRAZY, on 10/12/2007, -32/+218It may look the same, but It isn't the same if it isn't overrun with Apple fanboys . . . .
My -100 digg score will be all the proof I need, thank you. - alternateheaven, on 10/12/2007, -5/+162Except for the fact that /. was around before dig and quite honestly the idea of user-submitted news was going on at slashdot before digg was even around, it just didn't implement it as well as dig does/did.
- rm999, on 10/12/2007, -7/+146It's not really a clone - slashdot is still a editorial based site, this just helps the editors do their job better.
Besides, this is just a democratic (well, more like a republic) voting system - people don't claim digg is ripping off the ancient greeks with the digging system. - maehem, on 10/12/2007, -2/+105I seem to remember Kevin stating that Digg was inspired by Slashdot. So it only seems fitting that Slashdot would be inspired by Digg for their next round of improvements. I still visit both but I like Digg more for its hourly flood of new stuff. Slashdot only gets a few stories a day, even though the content quality is alot higher.
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+90I think the random-moderator-with-few-points-and-5-is-the-max system that slashdot has is pretty inspired. They foresaw the kinds of problems that a free-for-all system like digg would have.
The highest ranked comments on digg basically directly correlate to position from top of page and how much it correlates to the group mentality. When the community was small, buried comments were generally trolls/spam, but now you'll see that an ever increasing number of buried comments simply disagree with the majority. It's a very negative turn for the community. Slashdot has meta moderation which makes this far more difficult to perpetuate. - JernejL, on 10/12/2007, -6/+84digg can't stand a bit competition? sure you were first to do social stuff, but slashdot is a different website and pre-dates digg, digg could be called a copy of slashdot with just users submitting stories.
- LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60http://slashdigg.com/
- mutantobject, on 10/12/2007, -9/+66Digg was actually inspired by slashdot. Kevin Rose actually started it because they were frustrated by the slashdot tight control on content. If digg is a democratic, slashdot would be communist. Moderators got too much control over the content. Whereas here on digg, users got too much control. I like them both actually. But I totally wouldnt mind slashdot loosen up on their powergrip a little.
- CryoNine, on 10/12/2007, -8/+64So apparently anything with a thumbs up / down option is a digg clone now? Heh.
- ernieoporto, on 10/12/2007, -3/+57So Digg invented voting? Hmmm... somehow I don't think so.
Digg is really only known for pandering to the lowest common denominator with stories such as:
-- Look Britney Spear's cooch!
-- Laptops that look like potato chips that look like celebrities
-- Man says 9/11 inspired by alien Saddam from Proxima Centauri
-- 1 Firefox extensions you must haves!!! Again!
-- Cheat for Mario Bros on NES that makes him jump
-- New Flash web browser inside your browser.
-- 101 cats you've never met before
-- New shots of ATI engineer eating a hoagie while thinking of rumored X60000 - tehmoth, on 10/12/2007, -12/+61its pretty bad when slashdot has "intelligent users" in comparison.
- sandkiller, on 10/12/2007, -22/+67Of course, slashdot continues to be much better than digg. Digg is getting worse everyday.
- LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40Immitation is the greatest form of flattery.
Personally I visit both sites - digg for the interesting/breaking news and slashdot for the educational / technology news. I'd say digg is fun while slashdot is serious - both awesome sites. - NealV, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37@bearowned
That is the reason why I still visit Slashdot. In fact, a lot of the stories seen on slashdot I already saw posted on Digg earlier, but Slashdot is very discussion oriented. Everything else is secondary, the main difference between the two sites is that Digg is content-oriented and Slashdot is discussion-oriented. For that reason, I visit both. - CatalystDM, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30How would Slashdot be communist? Perhaps a Republic, but not Communist...
- manifestdata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Allow to me to say what everyone over the age of 25 is thinking, "Thank god, no more 17 year olds."
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+32"cause i wanna hear what kevin and alex have to say about this."
That's funny, I don't. After all, they stole the aspect of a user run news site from Slashdot.
Kevin and Alex got lucky, quit sucking their balls. - pukiman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27"clone of digg!", my ass! Digg wasn't the first site to implant the idea on voting on user submitted links to news, or what ever.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26And don't be fooled. Digg has it's fair share of editors, especially when an anti-Digg story is posted, zooommmm, removed from the front page.
- d3c0yn4m3l355, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26/. is totally different compared to Digg. First of all tech-news you still gotto be on /. the same for a crowd that is actually 18+ which can be clearly read out the responses most of the time here. Now if you want to read some popular news about anna nicole & crap then you gotto be here. So yes thats why probaly quite a few /.'ers come here to polute there mind once or twice a day just like me
- zumpiez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Allow me to say what everyone over the age of 17 is thinking.
"So?" - paulcooper, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23dugg down because he used a mac? You sir, are an idiot. Is anyone else getting really sick of the religious war between windows users and mac users? Getting super childish, why not just...stop?
- ColdCut, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24http://diggslash.com/ (I like this way around)
- PLUMCRAZY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Don't you think that would just make the group-think even worse?
If you want to gain more credibility you just have to spend a week or two praising the awesomeness that is Apple and our benevolent overlord Steve Jobs.
I don't think so. . . - mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16There are gigantic problems with a simple digg up or down system for comments, meaning that spam is often dugg down just as much as an intelligent but unpopular argument.
- markdr123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Dear Submitter,
What makes you feel you should also put pictures of your ass on your Flickr account, and then submit an image to Digg in the same photostream?
http://flickr.com/photos/dumbyellowdog/386494260/in/photostream/
Regards,
markdr123 - daRoach, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20I always thought it was the other way around.
- Threnody, on 10/12/2007, -6/+171. Digg started as a tech news site. It's geeky by nature and we like it that way. If you don't, there are lots of non-geeky communities for you. Seriously you're bitching about one of the fundamental qualities of digg...why even bother coming here?
2. You're right, Digg could really stand to be more anti-gay. The nerve of those people minding their own business and not hurting anyone else...oh wait, I forgot, they're harming the "American family"...
3. Sorry but you DESERVE to be dugg down. Whining about it in the last line doesn't make it any less true.
4. Go ***** yourself - mattmcm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11What the hell does it matter if he uses a Mac? That's his choice. I use Windows (although moving more towards Linux...) and I don't mind people who use other OSes. So, in essence, stfu.
- SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Actually if users were able to post directly to the front page on slashdot, slashdot would've ended up exactly like Digg and would suck just as much. Digg is great for those one-off links to a bunch of weird photos or perhaps some under heard political stories, but other than that it's just garbage. The commenting system sucks and the comments are trash.
- Gigadafud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11i have actually found myself going back to /. a lot lately. digg has become a cluster ***** of crap making it the front page.
- smhill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11More and more it seems like the digg userbase is largely kids, or those who have recently got into technology and fancy themselves 'geeks'. (well... at least the more vocal portion of the userbase.) Arguing about lame or ancient topics, hero worshipping Rose or Jobs, spouting ignorant comments and getting all worked over things from several years ago. Often it feels like the old school AOL chat rooms (the public ones anyway).
I keep waiting for the monkey drinking his own piss to make it to the front page. - Radan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"Good artists borrow, great artists steal"?
- smhill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Are you suggesting that digg was a creative and original idea?
- drwiii, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Huh? Slashdot is copying digg? digg wasn't the first site to truly popularize the concept of user-voted content, that was kuro5hin.org. digg just threw a Web 2.0 coat of paint on it and screwed up the comment system.
And the Slashdot vs. kuro5hin wars have been going on since 1999, long before digg was born. Knowing some of the guys who run Slashdot, I wouldn't doubt it if the FireHose beta is partially based on code implemented back then and held for just the right time. - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The comments on this page alone are proof of why Digg has turned to crap.
- plkrtn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8If anything Digg is more communist than /. If anything /. would be totalitarian.
Make your comment, but don't make innaccurate ones! - gorkon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Marked as inaccurate. Firehose is COMPLETELY different then digg. The firehose is a way for the Slashdot editors to have users rate the posts. Nothing is automatically posted to the front page without a editor.
- Misos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and stuff.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7OMG Ponies!
- rgawenda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I've just been enlighted, I've seen THE TRUTH: Microsotf did not copy Windows from MacOS, they cloned windows from Digg. Even Darwin was wrong, man does not come from apes. man is a digg evolution.
At least this is what some diggers seem to think. This slashdot test seems by large closer to reddit than digg. - MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5please leave.
- Psxtreme, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It's hard to call it a clone of digg at all really, it even says it helps the _editors_ choose which stories to post. Slashdot==has editors limited moderation by users of comments
Digg==no editors, users control posting of stories, users moderate as much as they want
In the end it's still up to the editors as to what they decide goes on the front page - HalFTW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Is it just me or does Slashdot look fugly?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have said it before...slashdot's moderation system is a work of genius in terms of bringing real social interaction AND the resulting consequences to an online forum. Truly, genius. However, it is not a system with a flat learning curve. You have to put some time and effort into the system to see how it works and how to make it work for you. This is clearly in contrast to digg where you have learned pretty much all you need to know if you can click on a red or green hand.
Where slashdot screwed up was in insisting that their braindead editors maintain a deathgrip on control over what articles were promoted. Slashvertisements, piquepailles, dupes, etc etc etc just frustrated and irritated people. So much so that when digg came online slashdot users came over in droves. At first to split their time and eventually to leave /. completely. Bring /.'s genius moderation system to bear on the problem of article selection and it would shut digg down overnight IMO. I was saying that something like digg was going to come along and take down /. before digg was even online.
These things are obvious to me. I'm glad to see /. taking a step in the right direction (but pissed that I can't access it ;-) - kitwaites, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Digg could do implementing a "karma" system like they have on Slashdot that would (hopefully) get rid of some of the tired jokes and trolls... achieving a shift towards Slashdot where users that are dugg up get more respect and weight to replace the top users chart.
- smhill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You have to be pretty ignorant to imagine that they haven't seen shoutwire. Rose has talked about it before.
There is nothing they can do about it, because digg itself is nothing new. The concept was around before digg, digg just utilized Roses' popularity from tv and such to draw a bigger crowd.
popular != original - moduc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Digg indeed has a problem radical ideas. If someone writes something that others disagree, it's buried (yes, it's not me who said this first here).
So, this is one of a big problem. Some pointed out that 5 point system at slashdot is the right thing. I strongly disagree. Also, some pointed out the quality of slashdot article. I don't have a strong feeling about the quality, but I think the general quality of articles on digg is better. Here, I mean plurals. I mean if you scan digg for articles, pick the one you like, you'll get more better article. And here, quantity and quality goes hand in hand because it's all about entertainment. More good stuff, better total goodness.
One way may, and I say may help digg solves the radical idea, is to NOT hide LARGE negative points. This means some people must change their way of digging up or down. For example, if something is outrageous, if they voted it down, then may also think it's too radical that people may see it too. That's the way things work in the real world. If something is like William Hoang, people watch it, good or bad, they decide.
The hard part is to determine at which threshold a negative point comment get shown. I think some simple statistics, with certain standard deviation value. This should be taken from the current page. So, initially, maybe everything should be shown (no comments, or enough comment to have good statistics). Then, after 20 comments for example, start to show all comments that has more than 1 standard deviation from 0 from the negative side, and all positive comments. - kb0x, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They had to include the word "digg" somewhere in the title to increase the chances of getting to the front page.
This story should be on the front page on it's own merits, It's a good idea that should make /. better. - sancho, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9@Cryonine:
Yeah, ever seen Tivo's interface? I can't believe how much they ripped that off of Digg :( -
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