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- Pleased2CU, on 03/31/2008, -1/+58Creative has one epic, well deserved, PR nightmare on its hands. I believe this is one for the history books!
- ileftfark, on 03/31/2008, -2/+22From the forums:
***daniel_k wrote:
Dale removed everything I posted, including the Audigy Support Pack, that does not enable any "new" feature, except those present in XP drivers. I think you went too far.
Now Audigy owners are left in the dark, no Equalizer, no CMSS, no DVD Audio, no Hardware MIDI, no Dolby/DTS decoding.***
From Dale_CL (Creative Employee):
***I checked with management, and it was decided we would bring back the Audigy Support Pack thread and allow you to continue in that endeavor. As long as no intellectual property of Creative is distributed, we will have no problem with it. I will get the thread reposted shortly.
Dale*** - inactive, on 03/31/2008, -3/+20Too late. I have been boycotting Creative for years. They write the ***** drivers in the industry, period...
- Sirocco, on 03/31/2008, -2/+18Creative has a history of writing terrible drivers and not supplying information critical to developers. Their AWE series went largely undocumented for many years, causing major grief to game developers.
- zakool21, on 03/31/2008, -5/+19Better petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/crtvlabs/petition.ht ... - Gooiool, on 03/31/2008, -4/+17I will never buy another Creative product ever again.. Shame on you Creative And now the whole word know just how Creative does business !
- msodrew, on 03/31/2008, -2/+15That's such a ***** website.
- inactive, on 03/31/2008, -1/+12I haven't bought Creative for years, the only reason I have an Audigy in my system right now is because I found it at Goodwill for $5.
- jeremyduffy, on 03/31/2008, -2/+12I'm amazed at how frustrated people are with Creative. I haven't had any of their products in so long (and don't have Vista) that I never knew about this issue until it became news recently. Still, Creative has the right to stupidly prevent someone from helping them if they don't want it, but the backlash has been so severe, that it was clearly the wrong decision. It's as if the whole world was just waiting for a chance to start the revolt.
- bbqsalad, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10Review the facts? Like how the drivers work fine on XP and not Vista for some older cards? Just like everyone is saying? Btw the Fatal1ty is a mega rip-off.
- reddog093, on 03/31/2008, -1/+11Voted up for egregious
- Ablerank, on 03/31/2008, -2/+10I say, just stick a fork in those *****. Creative has always been ***** - but no one really had any other options when they first came on the scene. Their drivers were always crap. This guy actually goes through the trouble of providing FREE support to their customers in the form a device driver and they ***** on him. Evil, threatening, worthless companies like these are what give Capitalism a bad name.
- n8o8, on 03/31/2008, -2/+10I LOVE how the internet is giving consumers a loud voice; so what's next? Companies using viral strategies to take down their competition... that will take away our credibility, so stay cynical and vigilant.
- inactive, on 03/31/2008, -1/+8I wonder if Daniel_K has a Digg account
- kmoed, on 03/31/2008, -1/+8Upgraded AWE32 to SBLIVE, wrestled with shoddy drivers and little support to get it working with Win2k
Upgraded SBLIVE to Audigy2, wrestled with shoddy drivers and little support to get it working with WinXP,
Upgraded Audigy2 to XFi Platinum,wrestled with shoddy drivers and little support to try to get it working with Vista
Sold Xfi Platinum on Ebay.
Now using Realtek HD integrated on P35 MB.Worked right out of the box.
No more BS ..I mean SB for me. - djbon2112, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7I think they were. All their consumers are fed up, they just needed a real excuse to revolt.
- Okodro, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7Creative said he could continue Audigy drivers.... they are not changing their stance on X-Fi
- troydoogle7, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7I just broke my Zen in half (actually I cancelled my order!)! Ha ha great timing!-- What is a better alternative that is not an Ipod?)
- SteveMax, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5Do you realize how petty, immature, unprofessional and downrightly lame your posts make this site look?
- wankelrotary, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5"Your" an ass, as well.
- elpohl, on 03/31/2008, -1/+6Hypocrite *****, I say!
- MindTrigger, on 03/31/2008, -3/+8Do you own a Vista gaming rig and a Sound Blaster XFi? If not, shut the hell up. I've been fighting with these XF-i cards, snapping, popping, ***** sound and missing features ever since I moved over to Vista. Creative has the ability to correct these cards just like Daniel_K did, but instead it seems they want everyone to go out and buy new sound cards.
- msodrew, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4an eyepod.
- meed, on 03/31/2008, -1/+5Creative is the worst sound card company ihmo. What good is a piece of hardware if the drivers are crap? Maybe creative needed to realize years ago, that while someone might by a new video card every year, a sound card can last you several years and several different systems. Creative needs to figure out another source of income besides trying to trick people into purchasing hardware that they really don't need.
- inactive, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4you have fun with your integrated realtek sound cards. As much as i hate creative, i love their sound cards. I hate them for not releasing specs to alsa team for the x-fi though.
- minorthreat, on 03/31/2008, -1/+5I'll never install Vista on my machine, but this move by Creative shows me how they treat their customers. I haven't owned a Creative Sound card, only Turtle Beach. Looks like Turtle Beach will be my next buy also.
- selrahc, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4http://anythingbutipod.com/ will show you a lot of alternatives. They have good reviews too.
- purelithium, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4***** them.
- Emused, on 03/31/2008, -1/+5I could not get my Audigy to work with Vista properly (nightmare support and driver issues), moved on to the Razer Barracuda AC-1 7.1 DDS, works like a dream, with great support (clear speaking) with call backs and proper follow up.I have used Creative products since the 8 bit days,after this Vista driver issue, I have walked away.
- fkr3, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4Better online petition with actual offline results:
http://www.cannonconsumables.com/files/C6201F39-91 ... - inactive, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3All online petitions suck and don't make a difference.
- mufasa, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3I do not own any Creative products, but i digg these stories on principle, because companies acting this way deserve to suffer for their actions.
- freshgrease, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3I took my beast of a computer off my desk a week ago because I am too lazy to fix the damn Vista problem of constant shutdowns after bootup after installing a windows update. You can say I am boycotting the use of my XFI Platinum, or you can just say that Vista's only redeeming quality is that it can run DX10. Otherwise, I'd just switch right back to XP.
Other than the fact that Creative is a company of douchebags, the XFI has served mefor years in audio recording and highly impressive sound quality for my ghetto sound system: 2xBoston Acoustic 3' floor speakers and a Pioneer VSX-5600 reciever, Too little of a bit rate makes these speakers sound *****, but a 192kbps+ with some of the features of the control panel makes them smooth as silk. - bbqsalad, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3BUT FATAL1TY USES IT SO I NEED IT TO GAME GOOD!!!!!!!!!!11!
- djdingo, on 04/01/2008, -0/+3One of my main grips with Creative was after installing Audigy drivers on XP, then having to reboot and on startup it showed the Creative splash screen with a .wav file playing at startup. Doesn't sound like much but what really happens is Creative turns your volume to MAX at startup and that .wav file plays so loud it almost blew my computer speakers! After a few times doing this, I finally remembered to turn OFF the speakers on the reboot after installing the drivers.
How retarded is that? Thanks Creative! - tony23, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Because we all know online petitions get such great results
- krellor, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Sandisk Sansa. Or really, any sandisk. I've been impressed with their products. Simple, and they work. And if you get one that does have problems they will replace it. You plug it in and it shows up as a hard drive. Just copy your media into the right folder (labeled music, video, pictures, audio books, etc...) and it shows up in the appropriate lists.
- antdude, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2But M-Audio and others have crappy EAX support. Creative has hardware based. That's the only good thing about Creative's sound cards is hardware based EAX and games.
- jserio, on 03/31/2008, -9/+11Wasn't this resolved DAYS ago? They already said he could continue AND receive donations. Daniel said he only received about $53 in donations anyways.
Wonder who owns this new site. I bet we'll see Google Ads on there soon. Just another Digger trying to take financial advantage of a situation. - Picer, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I doubt creative have been doing well anyway, in the 90s software would say creative XXXX or compatible sound card but the new built-in sound in motherboards with their 5.1 .etc sound has destroyed their business so only enthusiasts that wanted to fork out for an XFi or whatever were their customers and by doing this they have alienated them all, hope they perish as good sound cards are available from many manufacturers like this one(my own).
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-225-1.h ... - spartan777, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3i knew something was ***** when i had to pay 15 dollars for them to ship me drivers for my audigy 2 oem (in order to use it at all). again, i knew something was really ***** when they delayed linux drivers for vista drivers, which turned out to be utter ***** (the linux drivers could barely be called beta last i checked). this is the last straw. creative have ***** themselves.
- enmattp, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Daniel_K FTW.
- ArtificialAnus, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3Tempest, meet teapot!
- jakem1, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Wow, I can't believe this story is still going strong. Good luck guys.
- Shananra, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I'm using an M-Audio, but I hear Asus has some nice units out as well now.
- dolemite01, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2Ok, I see a lot of negativity here. Please lets cut the bad talk. We try our best to get working drivers and sure we might not be the best coders but god knows you're really only paying for the low end cards anyway, if people want the professional stuff they would be getting the true pro stuff, its a get what you pay for thing, so don't complain so much, we'll get the drivers working eventually.'
- zakool21, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3Jserio – you have no idea what you're talking about.
- Almightymole, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2If you are paying for it.
- jjmckay, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Very well expressed and I feel the same!! Dugg!
- inactive, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2This so gonna end up with a must read Business study for people doing Business Studies.
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