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ShareReactor Admin Found Guilty of Copyright Infringement

torrentfreak.com — The administrator of eDonkey link site, ShareReactor has been found guilty of ‘commercial’ copyright infringement. Following police raids in 2004, it’s taken 4 long years for the case to come to a conclusion, and after all that, Christian Riesen, aka Simon Moon, has to pay a token fine of just $4200.

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fkr3, on 02/13/2008, -24/+9There's a surprise... someone obviously profiteering from facilitating copyright infringement was found guilty of profiteering from facilitating copyright infringement.

I like how torrentfreak focused on the fine rather than another round of rhetoric about how piracy is 'culture' and 'free speech' and anyone making money off it is inherently innocent. The guy should be counting his blessings he was only fined $4200.
- xXShadowstormXx, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11I was expecting much more than $4200.
- bxblox, on 02/13/2008, -5/+11Facilitation is a ***** crime. Your definition of profiteering is just *****.
  - cliffski, on 02/13/2008, -6/+3so if someone facilitates a guy breaking into and stealing your car, you'd buy him a beer? Or are you ok with someone who sells car-theft toolkits on your street?
    - EmSixTeen, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5Every ***** P2P related Digg article I click on, you seem to be trolling it up. Well done, big lad.
    - jeffsback2223, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5interesting point. my old man is a cab driver, and he has a set of tools to break into cars. Why? because he helps people who have been locked out of their cars back in. so facilitating is not a crime. It's up to those who were facilitated to use the tools properly.
  - Myztry, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1If someone could steal my car yet still leave it their, I'd be really really impressed...
    Car broken down. No problem. Just have a copy of mine...
- Myztry, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4What about the likes of Sony with blank CD-R's and DVD's. What about Microsoft with CD Ripping in Media Player. What about Nero with Burning Rom. A lot of very large and profitable companies profiteer from Copyright Infringement.
  They know darn well few people have home studio's or backup self-authored data by the spool full.
  - fkr3, on 02/13/2008, -6/+5A lot of very large companies make products that can be used to facilitate copyright infringement. If you're going to take that stance you can argue it all the way back to the coal mine that produced the coal that generated electricity that powered your computer.... and further back even.
    
    There's a big difference between the companies incidentally enabling you and people setting up websites to purposely help you pirate stuff.
    - Myztry, on 02/13/2008, -4/+1That's just silly.
      
      The software has obvious linking features like printing labels using names fetched using the Commercial ID (not ISBN.. The CD one)
      The media aren't sold through niche (as is the legit usage) streams, but the mass consumer retailers, in massive quantities. Certainly much more available than say Musical Instruments which is a much smaller market than musical duplication.
  - MURDERTRON, on 02/13/2008, -1/+2I know many people who reproduce legal media by the spool. Some people, not necessarily you, have absolutely no idea what those people do with their blank media. I fear their ignorance may encourage them to accept an unfair tax.
    - Myztry, on 02/13/2008, -2/+1So you know enough people to justify say Walmart, BigW, or other mass retailers to dedicate entire shelves/sections to blank media.
      I think you just might be kidding yourself...
TheLastFreeMan, on 02/13/2008, -7/+11Psch, $4200 is probably all the **AA and businesses lost. Who honestly believes that people would buy the things they pirate anyway?
- HerrEisenheim, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11Me? I used to use Napster and... I think it was called Scour.net, years ago. Then I got money.
  I honestly believe that the real problem is commercial media is simply too expensive. $15-$20 for some CDs at a store is just too much money. I order everything on Amazon, but it's still pretty damn pricey.
  
  Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe people would still pirate music even if CDs were half the price they are now.
  - Jimbob200, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3I agree with you. I don't have alot of money now, but I buy maybe 1 or two film scores a month. If I don't have the cash, I pirate.
  - AntzNZ, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3I'm not gonna lie, I definately would still pirate CDs even if they were half the price, but if they were around $5 I'd buy alot of them, and if they were $5 for a digital download I'd buy some of them. On average I probably download a few albums a day though.(ussually ~10 every few days).
  - zongamin, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2LIAR.
    - bioskope, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2no honestly even though I'm broke, I still paid 10 bucks to go see "I Am Legend"
    - zeitgueist, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Research data tends to prove you wrong on this.
  - darkamster07, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2seriously, people have less money now than ever, charging more for ***** isn't exactly gonna boost sales, sometimes you actaully have to market effectively (hint, hint)
- zongamin, on 02/13/2008, -6/+2Exactly - yet this is the argument that most pirates make. LIARS.
control98408, on 02/13/2008, -2/+15Wow sharereactor, haven't heard that in so long.
peaches017, on 02/13/2008, -2/+25I'm sure the "4 long years" of investigation cost no more than $4200. Oh wait.
Darkhavans, on 02/13/2008, -13/+7Obligatory ***** the RIAA
- megaton, on 02/13/2008, -2/+8That would be MPAA.
  
  RTFA.
  - Giga, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5It is obligatory for a reason. It doesn't have to be relevant.
    - cliffski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+1that explains the stupidity of people posting it
destron, on 02/13/2008, -5/+1That sucks.
zomgz, on 02/13/2008, -6/+1Gowenna= THE GREAT LIE
- IronChef69, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Care to elaborate? Wasn't Gowenna a female ShareReactor member and big contributor who died tragically?
sspooner, on 02/13/2008, -1/+18It's not about $4200, it's about a legal precedent. Now they set precedent it's easy to knock the others off and if they are lucky can get the law changed to allow higher penalties.
murf43143, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1How is this not a win?
- Archer007, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2See above comment.
bthug7, on 02/13/2008, -2/+1damnit
monkeestylee, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4that sucks, hope this judgment is not used as some sort of precedent elsewhere
Vash3001, on 02/13/2008, -5/+2You mean unhealthy. Most of those foods are pretty tasty.
- sup191, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4I think you missed the correct area by one.
- darkamster07, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1wat?
Sil369, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6"guilty of ‘commercially’ assisting others to commit copyright infringement by ’simplifying’ access to illegal content"

Clever :rollseyes:
- mbhulo, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4So...does this mean that Google can be prosecuted for the same thing?
jojo1224, on 02/13/2008, -2/+3Who cares my isp warned me 4 times about copyright infringement because they caught me downloading illegal stuff.
- cliffski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+1hahaha. and you ignored them. Hope you saved up for your court fine kid.
  - jojo1224, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1They just warned me. They never said they are gonna charge me.
- darkamster07, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1how do they notify you? I have a pretty small ISP and I pirate ***** all the time, and I haven't been warned about *****, although that might be because I gave up on e-mail ages ago; seriously I don't think they care unless you are using alot of bandwith, they could care less about copyright, unless they are in bed with someone *caugh(AT&T)*
  - jojo1224, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1They emailed the email address they give us.
DestroyFascism, on 02/13/2008, -4/+6So there you have it folks, You should not guide, direct, assist others to sites, places, objects or locations as there might be copyright issues or patent rights being violated. This could be a mobile phone, a bus, a bus stop, a shop, a toilet, a crop of golden Canola....

Think about it.....
drmckenna0, on 02/13/2008, -6/+0http://tracker.com:12345/announce?info_hash=579CC4 ...

LINK!
joker1972, on 02/13/2008, -2/+2What a waste of time and money. 4 years and he gets a fine of $4200 come on. Oh ***** the RIAA
infotech1, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4sure they wasted 4 years, but the next case they dont have to waste that time again since they now have a precedent :(
cliffski, on 02/13/2008, -8/+1Good. A nice precedent being set here. But really, I don't care if scumbags like this little creep profit from it or not. They are facilitating theft by tens of thousands of people and deserve jail time, regardless of profit motive. if I steal your TV and then give it to charity, it doesn't matter a ***** that I didn't profit from it.
Any retard who spurts out some crap about copyright infringement not being theft just needs to grow up and try living in the real world where people have bills to pay. I hope this guy can never get a job again, as he now has a criminal record.
Ha
- PJBovoNox, on 02/13/2008, -2/+2I was with you right up until 'ha'. Then your post lost credibility and I 'dugg it the ***** down', so to speak.
- darkamster07, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1translation:
  BRB, RIAA
JusticeFriend, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3So, the precedent its for sites that make profit?
- Isileth, on 02/13/2008, -1/+0I still think that keeps google in position to be taken down.
  
  They link to files without hosting them and make money through advertising.
  - cliffski, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1they abide by the DMCA
smackafiyah, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Lucky he only got $4200, compared to people who gotta pay $100k+
F1R3DUP, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Uh, $4200 is probably all he had left in his bank account after all of his legal fees...his life as he knows it is over.
RaiderWolf, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2I hope sharereactor or a clone of it goes back online. I miss that site.
Hann1bal, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2didnt see it before so im saying it now
***** THE RIAA
sk545, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1Well, he didn't go to jail, so that counts for a LOT. Yes, the lawyers made all the money in the end, and he must be in debt, but he isn't going to jail.
donna1234, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1The administrator of eDonkey link site, ShareReactor has been found guilty of ‘commercial’ copyright infringement
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