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- Ikioi, on 10/26/2007, -3/+367Sure you can, and not only that, there are multiple internets you can choose from as well... at least, that is all according to Stevens. Don't just read the transcript, listen to the audio which is 10 minutes long... it's... um...
"What happens to your own personal Internet?"
"I don't have to have the type of speed their introducing, but the people who are streaming through 10-12 movies at a time or a WHOLE BOOK AT A TIME, for consumers use, those are not you and me, they're not the consumers, those are providers."
Yeah, consumers would never download a WHOLE FRICKEN BOOK (capitalized to grab the essence of his RANTING tone). Why, a whole book being downloaded in San Francisco could crash all of California like the power outages!
Take the transcript, and imagine 10 minutes of that in loud ranting and raving from this lunatic. You'll appreciate your own Senator so much more, unless this is your Senator. Then... God help you. - signal15, on 10/26/2007, -3/+177Apparently this ***** will vote any which way for moola:
TED STEVENS (R-AK)
Top Contributors
1 News Corp $47,250
2 Boeing Co $41,900
3 Verizon Communications $36,550
4 Veco Corp $31,750
5 Viacom Inc $23,000
6 AT&T Inc $22,500
7 General Electric $20,000
7 Walt Disney Co $20,000
9 BAE Systems $19,000
10 Northrop Grumman $18,000
11 Cubic Corp $17,250
12 Mantech International $16,500
13 Intergraph Corp $15,600
14 Cassidy & Assoc/Interpublic Group $15,569
15 General Dynamics $15,000
15 Lockheed Martin $15,000
15 Northern Lights PAC $15,000
15 Teamsters Union $15,000
19 Science Applications International Corp $14,500
19 Sprint Nextel $14,500 - williamdyer, on 10/26/2007, -23/+193This is why having a SMALL federal government is important. Stupid ***** like Stevens aren't going to go away. The best thing to do is to limit the damage they can do.
- pr0t0, on 10/26/2007, -10/+166
Yeah, it's clear that this guy has no frickin' idea what he is talking about. But he did say something, or maybe alluded to something that may have put the net neutrality issue in a new perspective for me, and it is from the side of the telcos.
I thought it was about telcos trying to extract more money from content providers who are doing things the telcos want to do (ie: VoIP, IPTV, etc.)...and maybe that's still true. But I think I see what the telcos are really bitching about, and it's something I don't think I've seen on Digg or anywhere else (or i just missed it). The telcos are bitching about infrastructure costs. They are complaining that they have to foot the bill for faster broadband so that IPTV can be a reality, but that (using their favorite whipping boy) Google doesn't have to pay anything extra for that infrastructure cost, yet they get to have Google Video delivered faster and with higher quality. So I think I see this from the telco side.
But if that's the real argument, then here's the view from my side: 1) if you don't pay to widen the pipe, consumers will go to the telco that does. 2) remember all those tax cuts and subsidies you got in 1997? That was to pay for the wider pipes! If you rolled out DSL instead and pocketed the rest...too F'n bad! It's not the taxpayers fault you got greedy, and it's not the job of congress to further subsidize your cluster f*^$ of a job by doing away with net neutrality. - CosmicBratt, on 10/14/2007, -0/+146No, guys! It all makes sense..he wants to show us how slow the internet is by making himself sound like he's buffering.
He's a genius, really. - antoniojvr, on 11/11/2007, -16/+156The Internet doesn't care about black people.
- dmron, on 10/26/2007, -19/+153Shadowstorm, there's this new invention called a sense of humor, it's pretty sweet, you should look into getting one.
- lostgirl, on 10/14/2007, -0/+124I can only hope "The Daily Show" picks this one up.
- deepsub, on 10/14/2007, -2/+125Ted Stevens is a ***** idiot. I've never heard an intelligent or insightful quote from him.
- pdeco, on 10/14/2007, -0/+115If you listen to the mp3, its more clear that through the stuttering is a senator who has no idea what the internet is or how it works. His position on net neutrality is more confusing. He declares he is against a two tiered system, yet he is against net neutrality. He also seems to believe that net neutrality will not require businesses to pay for their connection and that they are already not required to pay for their bandwidth usage. His final rambling about the DoD having their internet is misplaced. He says its for speed, when its really for security. He is so adamant about protecting the users right to getting content; he doesnt seem to understand without net neutrality there will be no content to had.
- mrmidgetman, on 10/14/2007, -5/+113i think i could be a better senator... i think a borderline retarded person could be a better senator.
- kettlechips, on 10/14/2007, -6/+99@signal15
Wow. Thank god I'm in Canada where corporate & union donations are banned. - SerenityX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+87Don't forget that all those people buying on Amazon are making it slow for the poor Senator to download the internet. How dare those people use the internet for commercial uses? Every time you use the internet for something commercial, the internet gets tangled up on it. Like a big knot that it takes three days to untie.
... apparently. - WhiskerTheMad, on 10/12/2007, -2/+81Sweet. I'm in training to become a crazy old coot, and I think I just found my role model.
- redneckblues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+69Yeah, then MTV could use IPTV to literally pipe ***** to your home.
- JohnQPrivate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+68If politicians are going to vote on an issue within a certain industry, they should be forced to take an introductory course in the basics of that industry. I think at least an A+ and Network+ course would do in this case. Just being a politician simply doesn't make you qualified for everything.
- Bogtha, on 10/26/2007, -10/+76Did it occur to anybody that he's heard people using the word "pipes" and simply took it in its literal sense rather than metaphorically?
- Geesu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+67@ pr0t0
I see your point, but I'm "pretty" sure that the government has given them over 200 billion dollars to improve the infrastructure, and they haven't done a damn thing (It was mentioned on a digg story like 2 weeks ago).
So I think the public (or maybe just us nerds) is not wanting to trust that they'll actually deliver on what they're saying.
So it's hard for me to feel bad for them - kevinmotel, on 10/14/2007, -0/+63its not loading. maybe its clogging the tubes
- chicken101, on 10/14/2007, -1/+62Ted Stevens is mad because he never got his 50 million dollar bridge, that connected a small island with a population of 200, to mainland Alaska.
He's crazy folks. - Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+60Ok, guys, it's obviously time for action. We need to harness the power of Digg to teach this guy a lesson. Who's up for writing some well-written and reasonable letters to the senator?
I'm not talking about something like "OMG Senat0r 5tevens! U R Such a N00B!!!!!!"
Maybe something more like this:
Senator Stevens,
In some of your recent comments on the floor of the Senate Commerce Committee, you made statements about the internet that were completely false. As a senator, I would expect you to have some basic knowledge of how the internet works. It is not a series of tubes that sends letters and movies across the world, it is a series of wires that sends electronic impulses around the world.
Senator, commercial services are the backbone of the internet, and they are one of the things that makes the internet itself thrive. Also, the traffic from these commercial services are in no way interfering with you recieving e-mail or "internets" as you called them.
(... and so on and so forth, make the rest up on your own)
If you want to send something to him, here are his addresses
US Postal Mail
The Honorable Ted Stevens (feel free to omit the "honorable" part)
United States Senate
522 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-3004
(202) 224-2354 FAX
And here's the e-mail contact page, but be aware that he probably never checks his e-mail, judging by his utter lack of knowledge of computers
http://stevens.senate.gov/contact.cfm
So, diggers unite! Let's teach this guy a lesson! - kacymartin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+59I think something like that was already on the Daily Show. Jon Stewart's comment was:
"That's not a generation gap, that's a generation canyon" - templest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+58An AOL Rep would probably say,
"You're perfectly right, sir. I was just measuring your internet levels and it does look like some local traffic seems to be causing a peak surge in your area. Unfortunately, it wouldn't matter what ISP you try to move over to, since they all share the same tubes. But, for a nominal fee, we can expand the size of your internet and redirect a couple of tubes to your computator to get the speed back up." - flobadon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+52Store-and-forward, baby! I don't want my data transfers behind a WHOLE GODDAMN BOOK in the tube, because it would take, like, three days!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46Some good points, pr0t0, but Google certainly does pay more to the telcos for the additional bandwidth requirements of Google video.
- junkfood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+44Stevens is one of the oldest of a group of really old guys, so it should surprise no one that he hasn't a clue of what the Internet is or how it works. What's funny - and typical Stevens - is that he doesn't let that stop him from rambling on anyway.
I assume he means that someone sent him an email and it took a long time to reach him. Never mind that email is often delayed by a number of things, someone should tell him to get used to that because if Net Nuetrality doesn't pass his email provider will have to pay an extra payment to the Telcos to get that email to him on time. - stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+45@mrmidgetman
You probably could, but you wouldn't get relected over and over as he has (he's currently the longest serving Republican senator).
The fact is Alaskans love him and keep reelecting him for his ability to secure federal funds for their state (he's known locally as "Uncle Ted"). I'm sure they'll continue to reelect him no matter how ignorant his views, as long as he brings home the pork.
Some examples of his egregiousness (off the top of my head):
The Gravina Island Bridge - Dubbed the "bridge to nowhere" since it would serve a population of only 50 people despite costing $223 million (why not just give each resident $2 million to 50 nice ***** boats and spare our country $123 million?)
$1.5 million for a bus stop (not bus STATION) in Anchorage
$500,000 to paint a SINGLE Alaskan Airlines airplane with a cartoon salmon - r00tus3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43Jeeze, this guy sounds like a babbling fool. I'm not american, but I'm forced to follow american politics because they have so much control over the Internet.
- wassim2k, on 10/12/2007, -4/+45Don't you love old ignorant people? I deal with some every day.
- fugazi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43it it it it its cle le le le ar
- WhiskerTheMad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+44Shorten it futher to "Nobody in congress"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39Considering the average age in congress is over 65 years old and ranges up into the mid 80s, what do you expect? These people were born before television. Some before radio. Some before the horse and buggy went completely away.
- Drizzit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37Telco's keep complaining nobody is footing the bill for infrastructure costs. What about all the tax breaks and subsidies AT&T received before and after the breakup. If subsidies dont cover it then why is it not built into the cost of accessing pipes. On my side's or on Google's providers border areas of their network. Surely companies that provide google's datacenters are not complaining. Surely Verizon is not saying that Google is getting a free ride on their various trunk circuits they provide to google offices and datacenters in the new york area.
If you're not charging them enough then that's your own friggin fault. Just because their market cap is way beyond yours, you are just looking for excuses to reneogiate those x year service provisions and per gigabyte costs. Take your limps like a man and renegoiate when those contracts come due. Because even if congress passes a law and you try to jack them on prices you'll meet google's mountain of lawyers in the end. And if you push it it will go before 7 people that may actually take time to learn about what's going on before ruling on it vs 200+ bought idiots who have no idea what the hell they're talking about. - cajunman4life, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38The Alaskans elected him. They are already in Siberia. Let's send them to the Sahara instead.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36Here's the worst part: he received the money for the "Bridge to Nowhere" anyway.
Here's the fun facts:
A ferry runs every 15 minutes.
The population of Gravina Island is 50 (not including dogs.)
The Republicans promised $250 million in allocations for this bridge and others. Then when caught and even John McCain objected to this burning of federal dollars, Ted Stevens threw his hissy fit on the floor of the Senate, they then gave the money anyway, but removed that it was allocated for bridges. That's fiscal conservatism as practiced by the Republican party. - whiterajah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34Reminds me of when President Bush commented "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft". I think that was the first time we learned about these other, previously undisclosed, internets.
- Continuum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35I originally wanted to rip this speach apart but I don't speak crazy old man.
- Chronomaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33I think I heard some guy actually crying in the audio from the craptitude of the speech.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34For the record, Ted Stevens is almsot 84 years old.
That's right. At EIGHTY FOUR YEARS OLD, he is pretending he understands the itnernet and making his judgements on his inept understanding that will effect people that he doesn't have to worry about, because he is too old to live with the effects of his choices (which is a large problem of government -- all the people who make the most tragic choices like going to war are the ones who are not young enough to suffer the consequences for very long).
This guy was born in 1923! He was born 21 presidential terms ago! - ...---..., on 10/12/2007, -0/+32God, why doesn't someone just explain to him that if you just upload better food to the hamsters and squirrels turning the gears, they would run faster and loger - with less rest periods, and then information would flow much faster through the tubes - some people are so dumb...
Maybe even some coffee for the hamsters and squirrels?... I don't know... - mtrip, on 10/12/2007, -12/+44Having a "small Federal government" is part of the argument used to support striking down Net Neutrality; after all, a law dictating how private corporations can run their business vs. allowing them to do as they please is clearly "big government." The mantra "small Federal Gov" is used by those whose interests are aligned with large corporations, and the ingenious part is it sounds like it's interests are aligned with the 'common man.' What they mean when they say "small Federal Gov" is privatization of more and more services to big businesses whose sole concern is the bottom line.
- oyourmom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31Apperently his internet runs off tubes, his website is getting hammered.
Keep it up, ;) - GenXXX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31@ Ikioi
In fact, he IS my Senator, God help me! - PhillyMJS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31My God..... Grampa Simpson is real, and he's a senator from Alaska!
~Philly - JohnboiWaltune, on 10/12/2007, -0/+30My Fellowes, I have important Information I must communicate with you. To-day I connected to the wrong Internets Tube and received an Electric Telegram with a Picture of a Naked Ladie in it! These Internets are an Outrageous Affront to our Christian Heritage!
- EasyIan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31You know what my 6 year old nephew understands how the internet works better than this guy.
- ubaron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Not 50 but 350 Million for the bridge...
- whatducare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29do i laugh or cry.....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28this is the same ***** that wants to censor satellite radio and premium television like HBO. he came out for censoring satelite radio after howard stern announced he was leaving for sirius
- GuyHitByTruck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27It sounds like he's recalling an experience he had when he accidently flushed his magazine down the toilet..
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