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- ryanlive, on 10/12/2007, -22/+87It's not just Senator Kennedy. Walter Cronkite had this to say, "The problem really is Not in My Backyardism, and it bothers me a great deal that I find myself in this position. I'm all for these [windmills] but there must be areas that are far less valuable than this place."
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http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=18240
Kennedy, Cronkite, and the liberal social elite are complete frauds that will say and do anything that give them more power, wealth, and fame. They do not have a sincere desire to be environmentalists when it directly affects their lifestyle! - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -3/+63@norris: "For one, I can't imagine they would be as profitable as generators placed in the mid-west"
Have you been to the ocean? There's a little bit of a breeze coming off it - theduke01, on 10/12/2007, -26/+75How about commenting about the actual story instead of going off on a Bush tirade?
- kmoore134, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47Are these the same people who chide us on driving SUV's, but then tool around on their private jets and heat those huge mansions?
- rhnet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+46I think it would be alot better to hae a windmill in my backyard (and cool) than a coal plant.
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -3/+43Best article today was in the Washington Post talking about the vehicles that different congressmen were driving around today.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/26/AR2006042602307_pf.html
Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.): Chrysler LHS (18 mpg)
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) used a Hyundai Elantra to take the one-block journey to and from the gas-station news conference.
House Republicans were meeting in the Capitol for their weekly caucus (Topic A: gas). The House driveway was jammed with cars, many idling, including eight Chevrolet Suburbans (14 mpg)
Sen. John Sununu (R-N.H.) hopped in a GMC Yukon (14 mpg).
Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) climbed aboard a Nissan Pathfinder (15).
Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) stepped into an eight-cylinder Ford Explorer (14)
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) disappeared into a Lincoln Town Car (17
Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) met up with an idling Chrysler minivan (18).
Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), greeted by a Ford Explorer XLT (article doesn't state this, but it gets 15mpg)
Also waiting: three Suburbans, a Nissan Armada V8, two Cadillacs and a Lexus.
The greenest senator was Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), who was picked up by his hybrid Toyota Prius (60 mpg), at quadruple the fuel efficiency of his Indiana counterpart Evan Bayh (D), who was met by a Dodge Durango V8 (14). - ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -14/+53I would rather hunt with Dick Cheney than Ride with Ted Kennedy
- bleemus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43This really isn't a Rep/Dem issue. All politicians are douchebags, simple as that.
It should be said, though, that both the far right _and_ far left nutjobs are significantly bigger douchebags. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -8/+43Total *****. He's been a perpetual arse for decades, been one of *THE* most partisan members of congress, and is long overdue for a little trip back to Chappaquiddick.
- mindsinker, on 10/12/2007, -12/+47Kennedy and Stevens are both douche bags. All of congress needs to quit wasting our f'ing money. We couldn't get some of soldiers body armor at the beggining of the Iraq war but we can afford to build a bridge to nowhere? If the windmills will help with the engery and save money then get them up and running. We need to dump all of congress and get some fresh folks in there the 99% re-election rates in the house are rediculous.
- theduke01, on 10/12/2007, -27/+61Do you have anything to say about using alternative energy sources to help the enviroment or are you just too busy having fun with partisan politics?
- potee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39Having met Ted Kennedy twice, and having watched him give a couple speeches, I can assure you the man is almost permanently wasted. He was giving a speech at Worcester Polytech, and for the first ten minutes he just mumbled, eyes barely open, then he just started yelling incoherently like he thought it was a political rally.
He smelled like a cat had just marked him. - loqqq, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Are the environmentalists picketing in front of his house right now -- as they would if George Bush, Sr. were making the same complaints?
- psyduck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35lmao thedonga, I am hoping you are being sarchastic. Kennedy is the epitome of what is wrong with American Politics.
He runs his own fiefdom in the U.S. Senate, we might as well call him Prince Kennedy rather than Senator Kennedy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -29/+58@theduke
Well, the headline bashed a democrat, and we just can't have that! - gavinmcd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Too bad Mary Jo Kopechne hasn't been able to see what a great leader he's been.
- Spaz007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28He's right the Wind Farm is too much of a eye sore lets put a oil refinery there instead. O_o
- recipher, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32You obviously don't know much about politics, thedonga.
- JasonPrini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Driving from Berlin to Poland, I see hundreds of giant turbines. They don't look bad at all. The offshore ones in Denmark are beautiful!
- CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28"The rich don't deserve preferential treatment just because they have mansions overlooking the sound."
You must be new to our country. Welcome to America! - lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26You forgot the part about them driving SUV's themselves.
- captainpete, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21What part of the Cape are you from? Most of it has already gone to *****. How about that AWESOME power plant right when you get on the cape? Or the thousands of SUV's? Or the multi-million dollar estates crowding my view of the land from the ocean? Open your eyes a little wider. This could be the Cape's chance to turn it self around.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20I agree, windmills are really cool looking, i have no clue why people dont like them.
Most people have no problem with a view overlooking a city skyline, whats wrong with windmills? - cybersamurai, on 10/12/2007, -11/+30down with kennedy!
- thedonga, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I'd love a windmill im my backyard.....always wanted one of those that is big enough to take me off the grid...one day, little too expensive right now.
- kmoore134, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21One thing I especially don't get with these types, is that they complain and moan about all the high prices of gas, and how it hurts us "little" people, but when they can do something to help, they simply refuse. They refuse to allow us to drill for oil here in the U.S, making us buy it from unstable countries, and when something as simple as a windmill comes along, we can't have that because it ruins the view from somebodies yacht or seaside mansion...
- andyshep, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23here is massachusetts, he is known officially 'heady teddy kennedy'
and he has never been a leader in our government... but he is great at leading his car off the smallest bridge in the world (Chappaquiddick) - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I think they look awesome.
There's a wind farm close to where I used to live.
Nothing wrong with having one in your "backyard". You can make a nice chunk of coin having one on your property.
Idiot rich people. - ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22So you're angry at Bush because he didnt invade North Korea AND Sudan while we were in Iraq? Are you really arguing that the US should have done that? Cause if not, then you're are being disinginuous with your argument.
- Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Backyard-ism.....mostly. You want wind-farms, but just not near you. It's less intrusive to import oil...but there will have to be some changes and possibly some sacrifices if we want to switch to renewable energy. Not all solar arrays and wind farms can be built in the middle of the desert.
I'm not saying I wouldn't have some similar thoughts if I lived there - but call a spade a spade. This is entirely backyard-ism. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16What will more research do? The idea is to develop alternate forms of energy, not pay people to talk about it. People have been talking about it for years. We have to do something (not flap our gums) to get these things developed. Even is something is not the best idea, it's an idea that can be built upon.
Personally, I'm building my own battery powered, stirling engine recharged, hybrid car. I don't expect it to be the best car in the world, but it's certainly a step towards it.
What's your project? - surferben182, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17its stuff like this that makes me ashamed to have this type of person representing my state.
well he won't be getting my vote next time - Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Nowhere in the quoted comments did it suggest the majority of Mass. residents or voters oppose the windmills - it says that a few rich people who happen to own property in the area oppose it. You are making an assumption that the only reason they are acting is because it's the will of the people. If it truly were the will of the people, why would they try hide the policy to kill the project in an unrelated bill - rather than dealing with the issue directly?
- ddwibb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17@ potee
Its true! He was so drunk when I met Him. I couldn't believe it! - Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15It's not an issue of 'the people' making the decision....it's Kennedy not wanting something himself because of his own personal opinions, and then doing sneaky back-room tactics to make it happen. They aren't putting this to a vote for the people to decide, he's trying to hide something in an unrelated bill that would allow the decision to be made by 1 person.
- misfit410, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18John Kerry is in that same bunch, curious why he is not mentioned.
- MacGyver, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21Very original, http://digg.com/links/Senators_Show_Up_To_Gas_Price_Event_In_Gas_Guzzlers...#c1567663
Do you just copy and paste your comments from story to story? - Wamzlee, on 10/12/2007, -12/+25Ted Kennedy needs to ask himself...what would his brother(s) do?
- tony23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Why not just put the windmill in front of Kennedy?
- skatingrox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@lateralus: Right. Scientists had only been talking about the drawbacks of the levies in a large storm for a few years before Katrina :P
- Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -13/+24@theduke
Erm, Stevens happens to play a big role in this matter too, so it is a bit relevant..... - psyduck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Everyone should have the right to decide what is done to their local neighborhoods, I don't think anyone is arguing that, it's the blatant hypocrites that are the problem.
- mattmiz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Seashores are used PRECISELY because they are windy virtually all of the time, thanks to microclimates around the border between sea and land. The middle of some field in Nebraska just doesn't have that. What is ill planned about this? It makes perfect sense. Where is the abuse and pollution - other than someone's objective opinion? Wind power is one of the least impactful in terms of footprint. It's highly self-contained, doesn't need any/much external support. A big pole, a prop, some wind and a wire to move the electricity. It doesn't GET any cleaner or easier. If you don't want it that badly, then maybe you should pay extra for your dirty electricity that has to be pumped in to support your beautiful view.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13This is another flagrant example of liberal elitism. It's really a wake up call for the few middle class Americans that have not yet abandoned the radical left dems.
I'm sure these Kennedys and Kerrys, Deans, Clintons have no idea how much it costs to heat their homes or fuel their private planes, let alone their cars.... so they tax the hell out of fuel, ban construction of new coal and nuclear power plants, effectively halt refinery expansion.
Is it any surprise that the Sierra Club halts windmill construction because birds are more important to them than humans, or the desert is too precious to build solar grids in? Of course proven, off the shelf nuclear power is evil to libs that take pride in being scientifically illiterate...
Wake up people... remember in Nov to send them back to New England so they can enjoy their precious multi-millionare views, permanently. - ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@ Wamzlee
What about energy production looks good? Nuclear Power isn't attractive, Oil Fields and pumps... yeah everyone wants those in their backyard - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Are you talking about France, which gets almost all its power from Nuclear power? In the US we only get about 15%.
- sean321, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Mattym,
I understand your concerns, but I don't agree. I’m in Boston, not cape cod, but not to far. The projections of how big the windmills are not as large as you state. The "massive" windmills will be relatively small from the shoreline. Small enough that holding your thumb out at arms length will cover up a few windmills.
Also, Hull (town on the shoreline for those who aren’t familiar) already has 2 windmills of similar size to the ones proposed offshore. I have personally seen them. First, because of the hilly nature of the area, you can’t see them from far away. Second, this means that only residents that are literally ON the beach will constantly see the windmills offshore. Cohasset, another shoreline town is also considering putting up a windmill. It is only the super wealthy beachfront residents, and NOT the majority of the population that opposes the windmills.
The sound is close to the perfect spot for windmills. There is a huge bar (a sand one , no drink jokes please) which the windmills would be built on. There are no shipping lanes as a consequence. There is also a near constant breeze that rivals any other spot in the US. The area gets Northeaster’s but doesn’t get more severe hurricanes like areas further south. Plenty of thought has gone into this.
Another argument that I here about is the “what about the birds” argument.
Birds are not a problem either. If you’re concerned about birds, why aren’t you picketing outside of the closest skyscraper with reflective windows? They kill more birds than any windmill would.
Lastly, there is no such thing as wind farms out of view. There will always be someone who can see them. - jamesg1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12That can't swim, fat bastard Ted Kennedy isn't as bad as his dumbass nephew RFK Jr. RFK flies all around the country in a private jet telling Americans that we are destroying the ozone layer and causing global warming because we don't drive cars that get 40 MPG. If RFK Jr. would keep his ivy league, liberal ass at home, he would do alot more to save the enviroment!
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13I think the problem is that senators want to give the image that they are buying american cars instead of driving around in a prius.
- DBCubix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I love this blame Bush for everything mantra. I could build a comedy routine out of it.
I cut my butt with a piece of toilet paper... I blame Bush.
I wanted to wash my toaster so I plugged it in and threw it in my bathtub with my aunt Hariett... I blame Bush.
Another Tom Cruise interview on tv... I blame Bush.
Ok, maybe I'll stick to my day job. haha -
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