45 Comments
- zeio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20As Carlin said once, "More ***** from the bogus Captain."
This Federal government, on both sides of the isle, is totally corrupt and defunct. We elect and pay these creeps to persecute us, to take our guns away, to limit free speech, to use illegal dragnet warrants in the Patriot Act, subject us to the death penalty, to punish us ex post facto, to violate equal protection and to spend every single dollar in the federal coffer without regard for the people but for those who gave to the campaign.
Completely defunct. - 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Please! PLEASE, folks: write, eMail or call your legislative representative and tell them that you DON'T want the broadcast flag or the DMCA to be expanded.
For information about this subject and help contacting your legislative representative, please go to: "http://www.eff.org/". - JimXugle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Anyone up for a Rally in DC? Los Mexicanos y las Mexicanas can do it, why can't nerds? Someone bring big speakers. I have the perfect music to disrupt a session of congress with ^_^
-jX
Nerdy Vigilante extraordinaire - walkingmac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10interesting... they are all about moving on a bill that in one year would totally change communication mediums but getting us to move to new and more efficient fuels and transportation methods is going on 10 yrs plus. GO CONGRESS.
- gleffler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10We do have a free country. You're just as free to purchase a congressperson to push through legislation that is so ridiculously balanced in your favor that it's appalling as Disney/the RIAA/$other_organization.
You just might not have enough money to do so.
[/cynic] - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Your view of history is incredibly myopic. There have been people exploiting their own race (and other races) throughout the ages. You act like only white people have done injustice. Quite frankly I don't even know why I replied to you. Stop drinking the Cool Aid and realize that there are plenty of corrupt Jews, Blacks, Latinos and other groups. Please tell me you weren't serious with that last post...
- Pernz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I agree with both of you (16X9 and Saintlink). I'll be writing my reps on this, this just our government taking one more step to limiting our freedoms and moving our society away from what we 'stand for.'
- Grayfox777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Why don't we have such a free country anymore? Why are we allowing this stuff to happen to the United States?
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Dugg. It is legislation like this that makes me keep my Congressional reps on speed dial. Write or call your elected officials and tell them that you will vote against them next time if the madness keeps up!
- Grayfox777, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"which you clearly still have."
Depends on which definition of freedom.
"We may have a voice but it is rarely heard."
I wish I could say you're wrong, but that's the truth. =(
"other countries where you can be jailed for practicing the wrong religion of voicing political dissent."
Maybe you don't believe me, but that pisses me off too. Though, just because we have more freedom than those countries doesn't mean that we should stand by while we lose what we have. Do we really want to have something similar happen to the USA? After all, It seems like voicing political dissent is now sometimes considered terrorism. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Don't give up just yet, crooks have been voted out of office before. We just have a lot of work to get to.
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I post comments on Digg AND call/write my Congressmen. You can do both.
- 5blocksfree, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I say let it happen - people survived fine without TV before its invention. Imagine - consumers could move mountains that most corrupt politician can only dream of. The media companies can introduce and taint their content with whatever they want - but consumers always have the last word. All they have to do is communicate their intent using the universal language of business: $$.
- Bigcat1021, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5It is rarely heard because too many people think that the legislative branch of our government reads the comment section on Digg.com.
I'm not trying to be harsh, but whining about DRM and then stating that you have no freedoms is a slap in the face to anyone living in other countries where you can be jailed for practicing the wrong religion of voicing political dissent. - Pernz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well said!
- Rickler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm totally for this. Need a website to organize nerds around the country to protest. We all basically have the same agenda; To keep the internet free (free as in freedom).
- skeet07, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5We may have a voice but it is rarely heard.
- nebrfan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Damnit - its *K*ool-aid. Didn't you listen in english class?!
(but nice comment - right on) - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3just as long as you still vote.
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That and DRM that says what you can watch, when you can watch it and how many times you can watch it. No, the digital "high def" age can wait. It brings too much bagage.
- Brasky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Except for the MILLIONS of people that cant afford an expensive HDTV...or the people who really don't care that their TV isn't greater than DVD quality. (Leno's fat nose can only be so clear)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6That's why he's famous for science not politics.
- cyrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"just as long as you still vote."
In the words of Sean "P-Diddy" Combs: VOTE OR DIE!!
While being a little "out there" he makes a good point. If your not going to vote and hide behind the "one vote doesn't matter" theory you really don't deserve to complain about freedoms taken away or partake in those freedoms granted to you. Apathetic people always come up with a reason for their "solution" to the problem. But come on...if you have millions of people with the same mentality, that's alot of influence that just vanished right there. That's pressure that could be applied to their congressmen to stop things like this from happening. But alot of people are content on sitting around saying it doesn't affect them, and only rally back when something does happen and then they wonder why no one else will go "fight the good fight" with them. - 4bit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like how everyone presumes the identification of VOIP is so that cable/telco's companies can slow/block it.
No... think BIGGER.
It's so the NSA can tap it... come on people.... it's far more evil than you think. - faddat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How's about the ongoing fascist takeover?
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5and michael crichton is an armchair climate scientist
hitler painted, j edgar hoover crossdressed, reinhard heydrich played the fiddle, ulysses s grant was a president, michael jordan played baseball... - Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 I'm starting to get torn between stopping the government from trampling over consumers and saying, "To hell with it. Let 'em!" letting them and let the idiots who voted for it eat what they sow
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2and if you wanna split hairs, they drank Flavorade in Jonestown. didn't you listen in cult class?
- geekologist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Everything in this is bad. Except for that part about eliminating analog TV in a years time. Bring in the digital baby.
- Bigcat1021, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"Why don't we have such a free country anymore?"
Lawlessness != Freedom.
Freedom is the ability to voice dissent, which you clearly still have. - rautox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Keep the digital if it means enabling the current trend in idiotic legislation. A move to exclusive digital provides a mechanism for enforcement, or at least pushes anyone who wants to do something so wildly whacky as invoke fair use into doing something illegal.
I'm really not interested in upgrading any more. Keep the digital, and the trap it represents. - theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If anyone has some good petitions to sign post them as a new story - some of us are outside the US so we can't really have a say but I don't want my government seeing this as a precedent.
- Ribald_Jester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So we want this to not pass right? What about network neutrality. What I can see this bill is bad for consumers because:
Broadcast flag DRM
Forcing upgrade to Digital TV
Another "universal fund" for Telco's to steal millions of dollars from and pocket it
Lack of any network neutrality provisions
Identifying VOIP traffic (this one is particularily ominous)
What I'd like to see in a bill is:
Network neutrality
laws requiring broadband providers to provide *symmetrical* connections with *no* port blocking and allow users to run services.
Allowing 3rd parties access to cable/telco lines to sell end user services (a la Speakeasy)
Non profit backbone providers - arabic58, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As a right wing, homophobic, Republican, registered voter who voted for President Bush 5 times, I can see some merit in your post.
((("Yes, let your senators and congressmen know that you do not support this crap. Watch, as the form letter you get in return, applauds your approval of the bill. Someone please clue in. The money is where the Bush goes. Hydrogen cars, good for the environment? No. Just a way for many of Bush's "friends" to profit on implementation of new infrastructure. Hydrogen pollutes as much as gasoline during it's production. Tax breaks for the oil companies driving prices down? No. Those tax breaks equal bigger profits for the oil companies. Broadcast flags? Give me a break, that's just for advertisers to drain more money from your wallet. DMCA is 100% designed by advertisers. Hollywood doesn't want films pirated, well boo freeken hoo. It happens. It has happened since movies existed. Bootleg copies of movies have been around forever. Get over it. HDTV better then analog? Let's see, the human eye at 10 feet away can not tell the difference between a 32 inch high def and a 32 inch analog. Higher resolution looks better up close, and for really really big screens. Anyone you know own a 50 inch tv? No one that I know wants to invest in that, too expensive, no content, as well as the cable and satellite providers that most of us use, have compressed the signal so much that artifacting on standard tvs is now the norm.
First things first, get Bush out of office, then work on the rest.)))"
I am about to write (e-mail) my Senator from the great state of Texas. I think the copyright owners should be allowed to put as many restrictions on their content as they want. I can be persuaded that all content providers be forced to install DRM protections. I can go along with all rich people being forced to own and only drive SUVs that get 8 miles per gallon. I can buy into the line that hybrid cars should cost 50 or 60 thousand dollars apiece and they pollute the environment. You will even get my support on the fact that President will no longer be President on January 20, 2009. The Constitutional turn over of power to a newly elected representative of the people is a good thing.
I would like to support the Bill in some form. Broadcast flag in digital content.
I think the DRM law will act a point of demarcation for quality. I can still justify paying $20 bucks for a good movie. Being tricked into and lied to about a good music video or, song, or play, or advertisement I can't stand. I like good advertisements. I even live advertisements of stuff that I don't agree with. I say give the devil his due.
I don't watch much TV. I saw "Harold and Kumar go to White Castle"at the $1.50 movie theater. Best $1.50 I've spent in a long time. I can vote with my $$ like everyone else. The advent of IPTV in my opinion will be the death of Hollywood propaganda movies, and the RI AA. If they want to get a law that will decrease their audience even further. I say G-D Bless they. There are 55,000,000 people just like me who don't listen to their stuff now. - eccramer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I really don't care anymore. This is getting to the point where the corporations can give and take away our rights and will succeed. TV is almost not worth watching anymore, and VOIP will be here forever, di I'm really indifferent as to how our congress operates anymore.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2buttsak's gross oversimplification is still disturbingly accurate. and at least the jews i know are apparently white. i don't feel that it makes us whiteys evil, it's just a fact that provokes questions.
i mean, gimme a list of presidents who weren't both. - jdgiotta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Osjpr,
Don't you mean we're powerless? - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i meant white landowners, not jews.
- Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The EFF are powerless. You saw that with the recent secrets fiasco. The only way to resolve this is to vote them out when elections roll up. All the idiots who voted in favor of this should now know better.
- skeet07, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2All of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._Presidential_religious_affiliations - buttsakk, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5This country was raised by, rich white land owners... and is still being lead by rich white land owners, only more sinister and greedy. Yeah, we've come along way...
- frosted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yes, let your senators and congressmen know that you do not support this crap. Watch, as the form letter you get in return, applauds your approval of the bill. Someone please clue in. The money is where the Bush goes. Hydrogen cars, good for the environment? No. Just a way for many of Bush's "friends" to profit on implementation of new infrastructure. Hydrogen pollutes as much as gasoline during it's production. Tax breaks for the oil companies driving prices down? No. Those tax breaks equal bigger profits for the oil companies. Broadcast flags? Give me a break, that's just for advertisers to drain more money from your wallet. DMCA is 100% designed by advertisers. Hollywood doesn't want films pirated, well boo freeken hoo. It happens. It has happened since movies existed. Bootleg copies of movies have been around forever. Get over it. HDTV better then analog? Let's see, the human eye at 10 feet away can not tell the difference between a 32 inch high def and a 32 inch analog. Higher resolution looks better up close, and for really really big screens. Anyone you know own a 50 inch tv? No one that I know wants to invest in that, too expensive, no content, as well as the cable and satellite providers that most of us use, have compressed the signal so much that artifacting on standard tvs is now the norm.
First things first, get Bush out of office, then work on the rest. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Damnit - its *K*ool-aid. Didn't you listen in english class?!
(but nice comment - right on)
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Thanks for the correction, but I never drink the stuff so I claim ignorance. ;-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5I wish Congress would pass a bill banning the lib teachers that run the schools from making kids feel bad and hate themselves for being born White.
Lay off the White guilt trip already. I didn't own any slaves. Immigrants come to this country with no money and they don't even speak English. In 10 years they own their own businesses and their kids are going to Ivy league universities. So what's the excuse now? Slavery was 150 years ago... get over it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0I sure hope this SAME EXACT story makes it to the front page four times TOMORROW TOO!


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