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- stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -7/+216hmmm....
Can someone please post this on myspace so we can get that hellhole shut down by the CoS lawyerbots? - Archangeleon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+93"You can leave the room. It's your choice. You can also jump off a bridge or blow your brains out." That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
- TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+92I'm taking bets on how long before the CoS sues Youtube
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+72Go to room 18 down the hall, and just ask for Satan, he'll get you set up.
- rmal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+62I'm convinced. Where do I sign up?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+59Okay, for opening session just pay the low low fee of $999.99. Remember, the best way to make money is to invent your own religion!
- lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+56Downloaded it. If it goes down, I'll mirror it.
- maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55These types of tactics appeal quite well to weak minded people. The rest of us, however, laugh.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+48"If you walk away and never mention scientology again, it's your choice"
I know it is, and after the laugh I had watching that crappy video, i'll be talking about it for years! Tom Cruise is some gullible bastard!!!! - kloof, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46Reminds me of the Lost orientation videos :)
- maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47I would rather blow my brains out.
- alexj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+42im glad they plant the idea of killing yourself after you leave the room towards the end of the video...
- spin-docta, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42They'll sue me after this comment :-D
After watching this, Apparently, if you follow Scientology, you can
1. be an ignorant jerk
2. kill people
3. jump on couches - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39best line: "you can leave and never mention scientology again, that is your choice, it would be stupid, but it is your choice. You could also choose to jump off a bridge, or blow your brains out..." this next part i'll add on my own "but why end your life so abrubtly when you can watch it wither away before you as you, and your money, journey on the path of Xeon (or whatever his name is)"
- jukabazooka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34Many details, like, for example, the doors on the background, they show the logos for dianetics (left door) and scientology (right door). It also has the high production values found in other scientology videos (spot their comercials).
But true, someone could have searched and rented a hotel lobby, furnish it with scientology symbols, hire extras to move around, hire a good actor, develop music, and speech according to scientology style, and put it in youtube. - VSKBadCRC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34You can also dive off a bridge or blow your brains out.
It's comforting to know that with Scientology, I have a choice. The power... Is yours! - imightbewrong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32"you dont have to believe us or even trust us" well good cause we don't!
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31The choice is yours, not ours!
You can open the door of your own future, but if you ignore it, you are slamming the door in your own face. I'm sorry, but that's the way it really is.
I'm a believer again. (by the way, the part where he says you can jump off a bridge is some funny *****) - rebz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32does it cut up at the end for anyone?
- AboveBeyond, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31"You can also give us all your money not because we want it but because you want to give it to us..."
- nate8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31heh, maybe in Digg v3 Scientology is going to get its own "container" at the rate these stories are being posted.
- happyfundave, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Its really not that hard to Fake a lot of things we watch today. At some point you just have to make the leap of faith and believe it or not believe it, the choice is up to you.
Or you could blow your brains out...there is always that - einfeldt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Imagine being locked aboard a ship full of people as intense as the speaker in that video. Scientology was sued by a guy by the name of Wollersheim for doing just that. Read what the court of appeal had to say about Scientology locking Wollersheim aboard a boat to pressure him. Wollersheim sued Scientology, and a jury found in his favor. The court of appeal upheld the jury. Here's what the court wrote. For those of you out there who are lawyers or work in law offices, and would like to find the actual citation to this case, it is here. 212 Cal.App.3d 872, 260 Cal.Rptr. 331 (2d Dist. 1989). Here's what the Court of Appeal wrote:
"Scientology engaged in a practice of retribution and threatened retribution -- often called "fair game" -- against members who left or otherwise posed a threat to the organization. This practice coerced Wollersheim into continued participation in the other practices of Scientology. Wollersheim first became acquainted with Scientology in early 1969 when he attended a lecture at the "Church of Scientology of San Francisco." During the next few months he completed some basic courses at the San Francisco institution. He then returned to his home state of Wisconsin and did not resume his Scientology training for almost two years. When Wollersheim did start again it was at the appellant, Church of Scientology of California, headquartered in Los Angeles. From 1972 through 1979, Wollersheim underwent "auditing" at both the basic and advanced levels. In 1973 he worked several months as a staff member at the Church of Scientology Celebrity Center located in Los Angeles. In 1974, despite his repeated objections, Wollersheim was persuaded to participate in auditing aboard a ship maintained by Scientology. While on the ship, Wollersheim was forced to undergo a strenuous regime which began around 6 a.m. and continued until 1 a.m. the next morning. Further, Wollersheim and others were forced to sleep nine deep in the ship's hold. During his six weeks under these conditions, Wollersheim lost fifteen pounds.
Wollersheim attempted to escape from the ship because he felt he "was dying and losing [his] mind." His escape was thwarted by Scientology members who seized Wollersheim and held him captive until he agreed to remain and continue with the auditing and other religious practices taking place on the vessel.
At another stage Scientology auditors convinced him to "disconnect" from his wife and his parents and other family members because they had expressed concerns about Scientology and Wollersheim's continued membership. "Disconnect" meant he was no lon ger to have any contact with his family. There also was evidence of a practice called "freeloader debt." "Freeloader debt" was accumulated when a staff member received Church courses, training or auditing at a reduced rate. If the member later chose to leave, he or she as presented with a bill for the difference between the full price normally charged to the public and the price originally charged to the member. Appellant maintained a "freeloader debt" account for Wollersheim.
During his years with Scientology Wollersheim also started and operated several businesses. The most successful was the last, a service which took and printed photographic portraits. Most of the employees and many of the customers of this business were Scientologists. By 1979, Wollersheim's mental condition worsened to the point he actively contemplated suicide. Wollersheim began experiencing personality changes and pain. When the Church learned of Wollersheim's condition, Wollersheim was sent to the Flag Land Base for "repair." During auditing at Flag Land Base, Wollersheim's mental state deteriorated further. He fled the base and wandered the streets. A guardian later arranged to meet Wollersheim. At that meeting, the guardian told Wollersheim he was prohibited from ever speaking of his problems with a priest, a doctor or a psychiatrist.
Ultimately Wollersheim became so convinced auditing was causing him psychiatric problems he was willing to risk becoming a target of "freeloader debt" and "fair game." Evidence was introduced that, at least during the time relevant to Wollersheim's case, "fair game" was a practice of retribution Scientology threatened to inflict on "suppressives," which included people who left the organization or anyone who could pose a threat to the organization. Once someone was identified as a "suppressive," all Scientologists were authorized to do anything to "neutralize" that individual -- economically, politically, and psychologically.
After Wollersheim left the organization Scientology leaders initiated a "fair game" campaign which among other things was calculated to destroy Wollersheim's photography enterprise. They instructed some Scientology members to leave Wollersheim's employ, told others not to place any new orders with him and to renege on bills they owed on previous purchases from the business. This strategy shortly drove Wollersheim's photography business into bankruptcy. His mental condition deteriorated further and he ended up under psychiatric care."
Any one of these acts exceeds the "bounds usually tolerated by a decent society," so as to constitute outrageous conduct. In aggregate, there can be no question this conduct warrants liability unless it is privileged as constitutionally protected religious activity.
"Freeloader debt" was devised by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard as a means of punishing members ho, inter alia, chose to leave the Church or refused to disconnect from a suppressive person. A person who stayed in the Church for five years could easily accumulate a "freeloader debt" of between $ 10,000 and $ 50,000. - justinvt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27This is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. How retarded would I have to be to be even the slightest bit moved emotionally, intellectually, or otherwise by this piece of *****. Seriously, is this a joke?
- KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27In the real one, it's John Travolta.
- akira117, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25Found another video!!! W00T longer too
More comedy!!! Thank you L. Ron Hubbard!!! :7)
http://www.archive.org/details/BrianTiptonScientologyOrientation2
I think I'll upload it to utube in a sec - beelz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24http://rapidshare.de/files/24130596/get_video_.flv.html
http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/article/flv-player-updated - ojk007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24I can just see tommorows headline:
YOUTUBE OWNERS FOUND IN A DITCH. - mtrip, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25It's a hidden camera of the video, you can see it pull back and show the T.V. near the end. Real.
- sdigroup, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23"you can dive off a bridge or blow your brains out"..........wtf?...this is so brain washing propaganda
- Tricky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Seriously, this is not a religion. It's a moneymaking scheme.
Also see: xenu.net - nate8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21You can start by climbing through the Cave of Sighs, and enter the Pit of the Pendulum. Knock over the column to open the door to the King's Storeroom. SMASH the clay pots, and find the key that will let you into SHRINE of the Silver Monkey. Assemble the statue, and you may be headed to the Jester's court. Grab the Holy Grail, and all the doors will magically unlock, and the temple guards will vanish.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS, AND YOURS ALONE!!
(anybody else having Legends of the Hidden Temple flashbacks) - pwrstick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22That's comedy gold right there. There's no middle ground on this one?! HAHAHA
- Litespeed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Notice how many times the word "you" and "your" is said?
- allthewhile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19"You can walk away from this room and choose to never mention Scientology again. You can also choose to jump off a bridge or blow your brains out with a gun."
OUCH! - mage1129, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19For a group that abhors psychology it sure is intersting to see them use some tried and true persuassion methods. In addition that video seems like something at Epcot, I was waiting for the guy to say now "sit back and enjoy the ride as our Disney engineers present to you 'This amazing cult'."
- uncleLeo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18what kind of "religion" has these production values?
- rickpable, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19That's the biggest load of ***** I've ever seen. Talk about a cult.
- CyberGlitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Yah, I chose to be a Christian because my family would burn me on the stake if I didn't. This guy is totally right!
- patmfitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18"Just look at "Battlefield Earth;" the book is great"
You need to read it again. When I read it as a fifteen year old it was awesome. Read as an adult, it's crap. Mildly entertaining, but still crap.
And it's not really a "best seller":
(Wikipedia) A large number of booksellers, publishing executives, and former Scientologists state that, as with other Hubbard books, the organization of Scientology engaged in a massive public relations campaign to buy enormous quantities of the book, in order to place it onto best-seller lists and foster the image of Hubbard as a best-selling author. As reported in The San Diego Union, representatives of Hubbard actually promised the publishing house a particular number of copies would be bought by subsidiary organizations of Scientology. Various bookstore chains (including Waldenbooks) have cited examples of Scientologists repeatedly coming into stores and buying armfuls of the book at a time. Several bookstores reported that shipments of the book arrived with the store's own price tags already affixed to them, even before they were unpacked from the shipping boxes, suggesting that copies were being recycled. - tehJR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3748589621013011299
The whole thing is up on Google. - discoloda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Nice scare tactics, they dont ask you to belive them, they ask you to belive you would be stupid if you didnt. People take that in better then they should.
- MiG39, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Also here:
http://www.archive.org/details/BrianTiptonScientologyOrientation
http://www.archive.org/details/BrianTiptonScientologyOrientation2
http://www.archive.org/details/BrianTiptonScientologyOrientation3
http://www.archive.org/details/BrianTiptonScientologyOrientation4
http://www.archive.org/details/BrianTiptonScientologyOrientation5 - Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14The recent Scientology craze on digg is due to the Scientologists attacking a site that is very critical of the organization that made it to the front page of digg. The digg community decided to hit back and exposed the cult for what it is.
- veloscaper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14but the Lost videos were more rational than this.
- tuna1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I'll take the jumping off the bridge option.
- imightbewrong, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14once it hits a few hundred diggs this video will be gone
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18I'm a catholic. And you can say you hate all religion, but I choose to be a catholic. I am however not a freak christian who goes around saying that others beliefs are wrong. I also don't discriminate against what any ones sexual orientation is.
However weak people seem to be suckered into many religions and can't make their own point of view. It's ok to believe in whatever you want, like god, and lead a good life and go to heaven. But it's wrong to force your ideas on others and say they will burn in hell.
I hope this doesn't get modded down. - Exodin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Rebz has a digg account - lols
and yeah it cuts out at the end.. thats because their brainwash signals f*cked with the electronics - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I'd rather join the Super Adventure Club.
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