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- aduric, on 02/21/2009, -34/+318Every Canadian Internet user should see this. I'm really sick of going to sites where I can't watch the videos because they're not available "in my region". If I can watch ***** Alec Baldwin Hulu commercials I should be able to watch the content on that site.
More an more videos of shows and movies are being released online, and I can't watch most of them because of the restrictions put up by the old boys network of Bell and Rogers, etc. I end up having to use malware-infested proxy apps. This is NOT a political issue, its a ***** GREED issue. - Vindexus, on 02/21/2009, -5/+195Dugg for Net Neutrality and Canada.
- WilliamAdama, on 02/21/2009, -0/+112Jim Prentice is an idiot, he should resign.. he was the one that tried to introduce that other copyright bill that would have made TiVo, ipods, and mp3 players illegal.
- tonyprice, on 02/21/2009, -1/+89Dugg and Passed.
- ch4os1337, on 02/21/2009, -0/+76Its not fair, we pay so much for internet up here and its capped. I paid 27$ for 18 GB's PLUS the monthly fee, and that's the best rate from Rogers that I can get without paying them 100$/month.
- Garlik, on 02/21/2009, -20/+87Dane Cook sucks
- Kaziiftekhar, on 02/21/2009, -3/+67I am Canadian and I would just like to applaud these people for speeking out against our retarded officials these guys are 60 year old lawyers that blow gaskets over anything and everything yet it's funney how they don't even know the core issues the public have to deal with. They simply go off on beurocratic rants about *****-policy makeing.
- bromac, on 02/21/2009, -0/+59I already emailed my MP over a month ago.
I suggest you do the same. The CRTC is a spineless industry lapdog whose only good deed is forcing Rick Moranis to create the Mackenzie Brothers. They need to have their mandate seriously amended. - Danhrules, on 02/21/2009, -2/+57Except not being able to view video on certain sites (like Hulu) really has nothing to do with net neutrality. The site doesn't have rights to distribute outside of the US, and so you can't access it.
Sucks, I know. But hopefully companies start to see the benefit of distributing worldwide. - inactive, on 02/21/2009, -2/+51I'm canadian and I'm sick of the internet here. I get 10 gigs download per month or I have to fork another 50$ (over the $50 I already pay). This is a complete joke, a stupid monopoly by four companies (rogers, telus, bell, videotron) and they all suck. ***** off.
- dizavin, on 02/21/2009, -2/+45because it actually is under threat. you see, here in canada we don't quite have the varied marketplace of ISP's that people in the US or even in Europe do. there are 3, maybe 4 options in the entire country and depending on what province you reside in, you often only have TWO choices of who supply's your internet to your home.
how hard would it be to convince 5 companies that they'll make gobs of money by introducing a tiered ISP system? net neutrality needs to be made LAW so that anyone with an idea and a computer can get their content out there and build a name and even a business for themselves without having to pad the wallet of some corporate gatekeeper. end of story. (what's next? paying a public speaking license to Rogers or Telus to be able to opinionate in public?! ***** off.)
and if anyone disagrees with that, they're a ***** Fascist. - Shuk, on 02/21/2009, -1/+38In Canada, the internet being threatened is serious business. I'm hoping that there will be an election this year, with Ignatieff's Liberal Party poised to win, and get Harper's pro-telecom industry lackeys (like Jim Prentice) out of office.
- InsaneChicken, on 02/21/2009, -1/+37I wish I could digg this story 1000 times. This is a REALLY big issue.
- catachip, on 02/21/2009, -3/+39Because your Bacon Cheeseburger digg was so worthy of the front page too.
- WilliamAdama, on 02/21/2009, -1/+36I've already commented a few times on this article but I just wanted to say that I'm really glad the ignorant trolls of digg are being buried for stupid comments about Canada.. this is a serious issue up here and deserves just as much attention as anything else.
- quarkde, on 02/21/2009, -2/+31Because the Digg community has decided so. That's the way it works.
- inactive, on 02/21/2009, -0/+24Agreed, Harper need to go ASAP
- DaFox, on 02/22/2009, -0/+23I signed in for the first time in over 3 months just to digg this story. OH CANADA!
- dizavin, on 02/21/2009, -0/+23this is quite accurate... you see, here in canada we don't quite have the varied marketplace of ISP's that people in the US or even in Europe do. there are 3, maybe 4 options in the entire country and depending on what province you reside in, you often only have TWO choices of who supply's your internet to your home.
how hard would it be to convince 5 companies that they'll make gobs of money by introducing a tiered ISP system? net neutrality needs to be made LAW so that anyone with an idea and a computer can get their content out there and build a name and even a business for themselves without having to pad the wallet of some corporate gatekeeper. end of story. (what's next? paying a public speaking license to Rogers or Telus to be able to opinionate in public?! ***** off.)
and if anyone disagrees with that, they're a ***** Fascist. - t0x2c, on 02/21/2009, -14/+37First of all, the issue you're arguing is important but unrelated to this post.
Second of all, Canada has never been under threat of ditching net neutrality, the clips of the politicians shown in the video support this. I don't know why this video was even made. - bman1984, on 02/21/2009, -4/+26You would think you would get tired of that after a while. If it wasn't for us, you would just be sending more money to Saudi Arabia and Venezuela and Russia. Do you still not care about Canada, douchebag? Do you hate your country enough to want to send billions upon billions of dollars to the enemy? How unpatriotic of you. Tell me akchrs, why do you hate America?
- acegi, on 02/21/2009, -3/+24lol who's digging this guy up... he can't even tell the difference between region locking and net neutrality.
- phronko, on 02/21/2009, -0/+20Net neutrality is not only threatened, but has already been ditched in Canada. I routinely deal with Rogers determining which internet traffic I can upload and download normally and which traffic is intentionally slowed down. I also have to see a Rogers screen full of advertising that I did not navigate to whenever I mistype a URL.
- UnWeave, on 02/21/2009, -0/+19I get the impression that you don't know what net neutrality is. While I agree with what you have said, it is not at all related to the topic at hand. Net neutrality requires that information sent over the internet is not bottlenecked by ISPs, etc, because of protocol (so http requests do not have any kind of privilege over ftp data, for example). Basically, it would stop people like Comcast throttling user's BitTorrent downloads, etc.
- derbloodlust, on 02/21/2009, -0/+17Hmm.. I'm going to call you out judging by your past comments, diggs, user name and avatar. Troll.
- derbloodlust, on 02/21/2009, -1/+17@ akchrs: I do, and I'm a Texan.
- WilliamAdama, on 02/21/2009, -2/+17Yea we have internet... pretty much since its beginning. We also have the strongest banking system in the world :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs6idz4Ej-E
- v3sh, on 02/22/2009, -0/+14Rogers has been hijacking my DNS, throttling my bandwidth and overcharging me for 3 years
...about time to dust off my torch and pickfork. - ASfinkterSezWut, on 02/21/2009, -0/+14When the "Supply" side of that equation is a legislated , protected monopoly, the "Supply/Demand" arguments don't really apply.
- HarrySimons, on 02/21/2009, -1/+14Dugg for canada
- MediaCrisis, on 02/21/2009, -4/+17I'm in Canada right now, and this whole no hulu thing SUCKS. We need to help our snowy bretheren!
- ninethirty, on 02/21/2009, -2/+15not to mention access to MUCH faster broadband than most Americans, and it's been that way since the mid 90's. Don't be such a douche ***** - your country ain't doing so hot at the moment.
- WilliamAdama, on 02/21/2009, -0/+13Couldn't agree with you more, Harper is such a flip flop and his government is nothing short of a failure. The only reason they're having any success now is because they are whipped by Ignatief and doing everything he says, if they don't he will take them out in a non-confidence vote and then the liberals are in power anyways... so although it may appear like the conservatives are the government, really they're the liberals bitch.
- Speed, on 02/22/2009, -0/+13ACtually, net neutrality is beyond threatened in Canada. The ISPs have essentially declared war on it, and as long as the Conservatives are in power, nothing will be done to stop it. Sadly, the only party that cares about net neutrality is the NDP, which won't get elected any time soon.
- Slimjim42, on 02/21/2009, -0/+12If rogers, bell or any of the other providers manage to change the CRTCs view on net neutrality i wont be mad at all. I'll simply do what Canadians traditionally do, march down to my local provider and burn to the ground. Then come home and crack open a few beer for a job well done.
That Should teach them to mess with our internet. - lr4life, on 02/21/2009, -0/+12Wow, this is scary.
- gixxer600, on 02/21/2009, -2/+14yes well said he does indeed
- bromac, on 02/21/2009, -1/+13I had DSL (and cable was available) that was BLAZING fast back in 2000....in WHITEHORSE YUKON.
Why? Because Nortel, our pet communications *****, and other telcos laid so much fiber on the taxpayers dime that we're over capacity that way. It's just these douche telecos that don't want to shell out any dough to upgrade their equipment and light up the fiber.
Because it's too easy to charge the $1/GB more. Or the exorbitant rates on cell data transfer. It's nothing but a fleece job. Just like Comcast and AT&T (Ma Bell) in the states. One monopoly was broken up, only to form back together like some sort of ***** T1000 when the corporatists gave them a quid pro quo on the warrantless wiretaps, approving all their mergers.
These "legal" racketeers, in many areas of business, need to get shaken out. And the Banking/Real Estate mess is just a start. If you don't actually provide a truly valuable good or service, you're nothing but a leech. And our society is almost dry... - teh_techie, on 02/21/2009, -0/+12For Canada's hugely sparse population, we have some of the best broadband penetration in the world! You'd think the opposite (having dense population) would mean better broadband - but not so.
- WilliamAdama, on 02/21/2009, -0/+11You pay $50 and only get 10 gigs? I use rogers and I know it's a rip off but I get 90GB for about $60/month.. but rogers also is increasing prices on internet and cable tv in the next coming months.. i ***** hate them.
- WilliamAdama, on 02/21/2009, -0/+11Dude, bit-torrent is not the problem... no body is using up all of the bandwidth, if every user was downloading with bit-torrent there would still be enough bandwidth to do everything else. The ISP's are greedy and want money to waste on other ventures such as Rogers buying the sky dome a few years ago... The whole "we're running out of bandwidth" message was a lie, do the research, you'll see what i'm talking about.
- xxNIRVANAxx, on 02/21/2009, -4/+15It's illegal here too...
- anxdiety, on 02/21/2009, -0/+11If you haven't seen a lot of your smaller resellers that you proclaim as excellent, suffer from throttling as well. That is because the big 4 own that last mile of cabling into the houses. Keep up with the news and you would have seen the lawsuits vs Bell for throttling their reseller's traffic.
- Ph0X, on 02/22/2009, -0/+10I logged in for the first time in 3 months to digg this comment.
- inactive, on 02/21/2009, -0/+10I agree Shaw, rogers, telus have a freaken monopoly, and this is not only an issue for internet access but also for cell phones its a buncha Steven Harper ass kissing for companies
- cezx, on 02/21/2009, -0/+10Seriously....and its at a weak point because our ISPs are almost fully monopolized by 4 biggies
- snoobies, on 02/21/2009, -0/+10This should be a huge concern for the U.S. as well. Vice President Biden doesn't really advocate Net Neutrality. If Canada goes, most likely the U.S. will follow. Net Neutrality is a pressing issue in the U.S. Corporations have already taken several websites just they can spy on there own citizens. I hope for the best for Canada.
- BoneheadFarker, on 02/21/2009, -0/+9If at all possible, switch to a 3rd party ISP. I pay $75/month for phone service (true land line, not IP phone) with 7 free features and free long distance after 6PM, plus 5Mb unlimited internet. As in no caps at all. I do occasionally get throttled, which is a whole other story, but last month I downloaded about 150 GB with no extra charges. The equivalent service from either Bell or Rogers would cost over $100/month plus whatever extra for going over the cap. If enough people abandon Bell and Rogers, they'll have no choice but to compete...
- quarkde, on 02/21/2009, -0/+8I'm going to return to Canada soon and would really not like to see policies being implemented by telecommunications companies, that favor the transmission of certain information over another on the internet. That would be horrible.
- jumpjet701, on 02/21/2009, -5/+14I would trade my internet speed for your marijuana laws any day.
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