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valleywag.com — A man from Riyadh, the capital of Saudi Arabia, beat and then fatally shot his daughter after catching her using Facebook to conduct a conversation with a man, according to reports.
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- mechman, on 04/04/2008, -1/+88... and we were worried about child predators ...
- Namco, on 04/04/2008, -15/+38However in many Islamic cultures, it's okay to kill one's wife or daughter if you feel they've dishonored you. Sick, but true
- elvenseven, on 04/04/2008, -11/+22Could you please cite a source? I am a Muslim, and that is totally riduculus. We are not above any law to kill anyone.
- RobotCitizen, on 04/04/2008, -10/+18Whether or not it is actually condoned in the religious doctrine, you can't deny that honor killings are a problem in the Muslim world.
- pintomp3, on 04/04/2008, -8/+25much like female genital mutilation, honor killings have nothing to do with islam. they are ancient tribal customs that have carried over despite changes in the religious makeup. it happens in islamic, hindu, sikh, druze, and other communities throughout the world.
- RobotCitizen, on 04/04/2008, -5/+19I always felt that Islam's greatest failure was it's inability (or unwillingness) to shed the baggage of barbaric Arab culture as it spread beyond the Arab world.
- korashime2001, on 04/04/2008, -16/+13It's pretty similar to Christianity's inability to shed many of the Pagan practices.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -1/+14koranshime: How is coloring easter eggs the same as honor killing. I fail to see a connection.
- MoClippa, on 04/04/2008, -0/+4Honor killings are problematic in parts of the Muslim world... they have nothing to do with the religion in and of themselves, but certain countries such as Jordan and Saudi Arabia, have a legislative grey space that has allows a barbaric historic practice to continue among parts of their society. These killings are further spurred on by the judiciary in those respective countries, considering crimes such as honor killings equitable to passion killings in the West, and lowering sentences, regardless of the fact that premeditation is most often involved. So, yes Honor killings are a terrible thing, but are only geographically located within a minority of countries (though perhaps not a minority of land mass), but it is a practice that has little to do with the religion, and more to do with a heavy reliance on history, custom and family (tribal) structure among portions of its population.
- celticchrys, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3 korashime2001: You cannot possibly compare things like carving jack-o-lanterns and lighting Christmas trees to killing a woman because she talks to someone. We have a lot of baggage, but we did successfully shed things like human sacrifice and trading women like chattel.
- jm1234567890, on 04/04/2008, -6/+21It's nothing to do with Islam, honour killing have existed in other cultures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing- 5N00PY, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Oh, well, if it's on wikipedia...it MUST be true!
- PaulOwen, on 04/04/2008, -3/+16Umm, the source is the fact that:
"It also declared the Qur'an as the constitution of the country, governed on the basis of Islamic law"
and regarding the fact that the guy killed his daughter (as an honor killing):
"Honor killings are also not punished as severely as murder. This generally stems from the fact that honor killings are within a family, and done to compensate for some dishonorable act committed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_arabia#Law
Its all there I'm afraid. Regardless of whether you're a Muslim or not, I'm afraid there are people in Saudi Arabia (the home of Mecca) who do these things in the name of Islam.
Get used to it or become an infidel.- elvenseven, on 04/04/2008, -1/+6Yes, there are Islamic cultures that does that, but it's not "OK" to do it as the parent poster stated. You still get punished and it is against the law.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7Yes, but by not treating it the same as a murder is in a way condoning the practice without pissing off the psychotic imams that think it's a wonderful practice.
- MoClippa, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2Those imams you mention are a problem... they follow Wahabism which is like all the crazy christians that follow hardcore old testament readings.... except, the state relies to a major extent on supporting them (they make up a large portion of the population that is willing to overthrow the govt) in order to maintain a degree of legitimacy. The wide range of other Sunni Muslims consider Wahabism to be severely detrimental and a gross misreading that allows clerics to maintain an elite structure... The US along with Saudi Arabia proliferated the spread of Wahabi ideology in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afghanistan during the cold war, causing the ideology to spread with such haste around the globe, in order to spur populations to move into a violent and inhumane version of 'islamic' war... for instance, the practice of beheadings and the lot are widely abhored in Islamic readings based on the practices of their prophet, but in order to terrorize and terrify the soviet occupiers, USAID along with certain universities (namely the university of Arkansas) prepared and spread violent reinterpretations of the Quran to wahabi schools in Pakistan... so began a practice in which, for example, some math books in the schools would teach kids to count as such "1 dead soviet soldier, 2 dead soviet soldiers 3.... and so on"... It was a vile practice, but they saw it necessary in the short term to bleed and dry out the soviet invasion. In the long term, that policy has caused an extremely massive rise in Islamic militancy based on what many interpret to be a false ideology, that has struck back at not only the Muslim world, but the West as well.
- cleverboy, on 04/04/2008, -0/+6I think the only concerns is that Islam or Muslim people aren't held as "to blame" as much as the culture is. It's much more accurate instead of saying, "However in many Islamic cultures, it's okay to kill one's wife or daughter if you feel they've dishonored you. Sick, but true" to say, "However in many Arabic cultures, killing one's wife or daughter if you feel they've dishonored you is tolerated much more than simple murder. Sick but true." In the first version, you honestly make it sound like everyone in that culture is giving the bastard the thumbs up... when its flatly untrue.
You disrespect every advance, however incremental, in womens rights that have been made there. Never mind that even predominantly Muslim nations have had females as the head of government, while that's still an "issue" in the U.S.. - talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3jm1234567890 nailed it. Same's the case with western europe as well until 100 yrs ago...they used to fight duels if their family members were shamed.
In the eastern hemisphere family honor is taken VERY seriously. But in this case, i think the guy went a bit overboard since no one side the family probably knew what was going on...
- RobotCitizen, on 04/04/2008, -10/+18Whether or not it is actually condoned in the religious doctrine, you can't deny that honor killings are a problem in the Muslim world.
- Blah_Blah_Blah, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1honor killings have nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with culture.
citing wikipedia as a source to why Islam permits honor killings is stupid. get me a verse from the quran that states so. - bizarrojack, on 04/05/2008, -0/+1Saying the whole culture thinks it's just "okay" is a really insulting oversimplification - it's just wrong. But yeah it happens, and it's terrible, and way too many people approve.
- elvenseven, on 04/04/2008, -11/+22Could you please cite a source? I am a Muslim, and that is totally riduculus. We are not above any law to kill anyone.
- jwkpiano1, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2One word: Wahhabism.
- Namco, on 04/04/2008, -15/+38However in many Islamic cultures, it's okay to kill one's wife or daughter if you feel they've dishonored you. Sick, but true
- ForTh3W1n, on 04/04/2008, -44/+189Obligatory:
The religion of peace.- billlyboobs34, on 04/04/2008, -19/+1If she was talking with a woman I bet this wouldn't have happened.
- omegaredIX, on 04/04/2008, -19/+9hmmm sorry I do not like religion as much as the next person but giving this little sarcastic "religion of peace" is a little...ignorant? The Qur’an states that killing a single soul unjustly is tantamount to killing the whole of humanity, and that an unjust killing deserves qisas (a form of retributive punishment). (5: 32). Abu Zahrah, the modern Egyptian jurist, argues that the purpose of qisas is the preservation of life. In developing this argument, he relies on the Qur’anic verse which addresses uly al-albab (those who understand), saying that “there is life in qisas.” (2:179). Abu Zahrah understands this verse the same way many Muslim jurists have understood it, namely, that the murderer’s execution has the long-term effect of preserving the life of the community. Thus, in principle, capital punishment is not prohibited in Islam. When a person commits a murder, he violates three separate rights: (1) haqq al-’abd (the right of the victim and his family), (2) haqq al-mujtama’ (the right of society to peace, safety and tranquility), and (3) haqq al-lah (the right of God). We can only address the first two rights, the third is beyond our domain. God may mete out qisas or forgive the murderer regardless of how we may feel about the matter. We simply do not know, for the Qur’an says: “God does not forgive shirk (polytheism), but he forgives anything else to whom he pleases.” (4:48).
This woman was murdered and the man should be brought to justice.- markusr895, on 04/04/2008, -3/+7I love it how people justify a peaceful Islam by citing the Koran, yet unwilling to talk about the atrocities that are committed in the Islamic world in the name of peaceful "Allah", yet condemn Christianity through it's "barabaric' acts hundreds of years ago, and ignoring the Bible entirely.
- omegaredIX, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Well dumbass Radicals on both sides ***** things up for moderates on both sides as well. Does the westboro baptist church define all baptists? I condemn violent acts on both sides but i also condemn ignorant tools saying "religion of peace" like they know what the ***** they are talking about. Extremist ruin things for everyone. We should also understand why people kill in the name of Allah and why they are blowing themselves up etc. All you have to do is look at the Wests impact on the Muslim world. Throughout Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, the Iran-Iraq war. This research will also take days seeing as you actually have to open a ***** book and study thousands of years of history to really grasp and know what the ***** you are talking about.
- markusr895, on 04/04/2008, -3/+7I love it how people justify a peaceful Islam by citing the Koran, yet unwilling to talk about the atrocities that are committed in the Islamic world in the name of peaceful "Allah", yet condemn Christianity through it's "barabaric' acts hundreds of years ago, and ignoring the Bible entirely.
- djbon2112, on 04/04/2008, -1/+10Bury this replied to the wrong place.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1You're probably right, but I fail to see how that's relevant.
- omegaredIX, on 04/04/2008, -19/+9hmmm sorry I do not like religion as much as the next person but giving this little sarcastic "religion of peace" is a little...ignorant? The Qur’an states that killing a single soul unjustly is tantamount to killing the whole of humanity, and that an unjust killing deserves qisas (a form of retributive punishment). (5: 32). Abu Zahrah, the modern Egyptian jurist, argues that the purpose of qisas is the preservation of life. In developing this argument, he relies on the Qur’anic verse which addresses uly al-albab (those who understand), saying that “there is life in qisas.” (2:179). Abu Zahrah understands this verse the same way many Muslim jurists have understood it, namely, that the murderer’s execution has the long-term effect of preserving the life of the community. Thus, in principle, capital punishment is not prohibited in Islam. When a person commits a murder, he violates three separate rights: (1) haqq al-’abd (the right of the victim and his family), (2) haqq al-mujtama’ (the right of society to peace, safety and tranquility), and (3) haqq al-lah (the right of God). We can only address the first two rights, the third is beyond our domain. God may mete out qisas or forgive the murderer regardless of how we may feel about the matter. We simply do not know, for the Qur’an says: “God does not forgive shirk (polytheism), but he forgives anything else to whom he pleases.” (4:48).
- ArandiaT, on 04/04/2008, -16/+48Every society has it's nutcases.
of course, some do seem to have a few more... - but that's not indicative of the whole society- curtisag, on 04/04/2008, -10/+31This is not a matter of a few nutcases. Their culture condones this type of behavior towards women. Perhaps not always to this extreme, but they are still treated as virtual slaves by men. Why is it never a son who is beat to death for adultery or whatever misdeed dishonors his family? The answer is obvious.
- Speed, on 04/04/2008, -7/+14I know I'll be buried by a bunch of Diggers saying that they aren't Christian either, but considering that Christianity heavily influences North American society, I have to point this out.
1 Corinthians Chapter 11, Verse 3: "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."
1 Corinthians Chapter 11, Verse 7: "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man"
1 Corinthians Chapter 11 (great read), Verse 9: "Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man"
1 Corinthians Chapter 11, Verse 13: "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?" (I think this one is calling for a shall when the woman prays)
All taken from the New Testament (don't know which version, most likely KJV, from BibleWiki.com or something).
Obviously it's not quite to the same extreme of murdering your daughter for using a website, but still not exactly equal.- goffy59, on 04/04/2008, -5/+3Good story. Just don't let it get to your head like many pathetic people in this world.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Yeah but you can't expect saudi's to throw away their morals and adhere to western morals.
BTW, in some cases the son does get beat to death...I heard cases where a son runs away with some woman, the brother hunts the guy down.
- Speed, on 04/04/2008, -7/+14I know I'll be buried by a bunch of Diggers saying that they aren't Christian either, but considering that Christianity heavily influences North American society, I have to point this out.
- goodfellaNW, on 04/04/2008, -4/+29when Saudi Arabia prosecutes this man for murder and punishes him according to their highest degree of murder, then I'll believe that this is a case of man being nuts. The fact is, that Saudi Arabia will either not prosecute him or will slap his wrist.... and in a country with extreme punishment, that's nothing. This religion disgusts me (all do, but this one especially), and I'm from the Middle East.
- AnarchoGoth, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3Do the government of Saudi Arabia, and those governments that give aid to Saudi Arabia not share responsibility as well?
- goodfellaNW, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Yes, governments who support and aid Saudi Arabia share in the responsibility as well. Unfortunately, we as a country and as a world haven't figured that out yet.
- AnarchoGoth, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3Do the government of Saudi Arabia, and those governments that give aid to Saudi Arabia not share responsibility as well?
- curtisag, on 04/04/2008, -10/+31This is not a matter of a few nutcases. Their culture condones this type of behavior towards women. Perhaps not always to this extreme, but they are still treated as virtual slaves by men. Why is it never a son who is beat to death for adultery or whatever misdeed dishonors his family? The answer is obvious.
- Charlesbian, on 04/04/2008, -23/+10Obligatory
http://www.godhatesfags.com/
Religion of peace
Dont judge a religion on people who abuse it to further cultural sentiment, rather than scripture.- ISmokesDaPot420, on 04/04/2008, -1/+5Two wrongs =/= to a right. Post that in the replies to his post if anything, sir.
- RedHeadedFreak, on 04/04/2008, -1/+11The god hates fags group is retarded, but they've never murdered any gay person to my knowledge. People say the Qur'an is violent and the Old Testament is violent, and this and that, when really, it's irrelevant. The past is the past, and the present is the only thing that matters here, and when you compare the number of violent Christian antics to violent Muslim antics, the numbers aren't even close. So don't try to equate the two. The Christian crazies may be tactless, but they aren't criminal.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1KKK...just wanted to point that out. I'm sure they've killed people in name of religion.
- RedHeadedFreak, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Sure, I bet that's true, but again, how many years ago was that? This thing happened recently and happens with frequency. 9/11 was only 6.5 years ago where thousands were killed under the banner of Islam. You can go back in time and look at history and try to equate the violent pasts of Christianity vs. Islam, but that's idiotic because all that creates is a clouded vision towards Islam today in a time when they are a threat to Western stability.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1KKK...just wanted to point that out. I'm sure they've killed people in name of religion.
- TheMoniker, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1I believe that part of the problem is that the holy books of the major three monotheisms contain exhortations to both cruelty and kindness:
both that we should kill adulterers (at least according to books of Mosaic authorship --read: God-inspired-- like Leviticus 20:10)
"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."
Or Sura 2.191 (from the Qur'an):
"Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers."
All of this is mixed in with various teachings on kindness, forgiveness, etc. But, to deny that there is violence sanctioned in the scriptures themselves is ridiculous.- TheMoniker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Oops, that was an incorrect Sura reference. Please disregard it and replace it with something like this one: “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you." (9:123) My apologies.
- dtfinch, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Good catch. I almost told you to read 2.190-193.
- vanzan, on 04/04/2008, -17/+12Forthe3W1n,
You need to know that some Arabs and especially the bedouins are very irrational when it comes to issues with their daughters that involve men.
Islam has nothing to do with this. So stop trying to find links between Islam and this kind of crap. If you are so interested about accusing Islam, then go learn about it.- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -12/+19Quotes directly from the Quran.
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Ishaq:325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Now is that really peace? I don't see that word there. Oh wait, I know why, THEY ARE FROM THE QURAN. THE GUIDE TO THE RELIGION OF PEACE!- kjm2664, on 04/04/2008, -6/+5don't make me get all medieval on your ass and find the exact same types of quotes from the Christian bible! Killing Heathen's is one of JC's dads favorite pastimes according to my King James.
Of course, I should stop lecturing, and get onside. Those quotes PROVE that ALL islamics are VIOLENT and wish to kill the WHITE DEVIL.
Yes, that's better. - pintomp3, on 04/04/2008, -3/+6If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Christianity is a relgion of peace! - Speed, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2There is stuff in the New Testament that would make you sick.
- vanzan, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Taking things out context. Good job. Read the explanation and the preceding and following verses.
And what do these verses have to do with this topic anyway?
- kjm2664, on 04/04/2008, -6/+5don't make me get all medieval on your ass and find the exact same types of quotes from the Christian bible! Killing Heathen's is one of JC's dads favorite pastimes according to my King James.
- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -12/+19Quotes directly from the Quran.
- BEloftyIRONS, on 04/04/2008, -12/+21Islam is the religion of peace and if you don't believe it you will then be pick up in pieces.
- djbon2112, on 04/04/2008, -8/+48A religion IS its followers, and Islam's followers have shown time and time again that they are NOT peaceful. The Danish cartoon riots, the France riots, fatwas against authors, murdering daughters over "honour" and facebook, stoning rape victims, etc. Islam is NOT a religion of peace (nor has Christianity been in the past, to be fair to all), and repeating that it is ad nauseum will not change that fact.
- kjm2664, on 04/04/2008, -13/+8and, all those americans who rioted after their favourite football team won the superbowl. and all those americans who rioted when guns and rose's cancelled their show. and all those americans . . . .
I'll stop now.- wubblie, on 04/04/2008, -3/+12Why are people who make moral equivalence arguments so annoying?
Is it because of the implied logic is that two wrongs make both actions right?
Or is it because it becomes impossible to criticize anyone else for anything, because one can always find *some* fault in the person or society making the criticism.
I believe that any time someone has to resort to defending an action by beginning with "Oh yeah, well what about..." or "Its just like how..." or "and all those who did such and such" automatically loses the argument. - SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -0/+6I missed the superbowl riots. In which dream of yours did that happen?
Oh yeah, and the GNR riot was in... *gasp* Canada. Now feel the wrath of Canadians!
- wubblie, on 04/04/2008, -3/+12Why are people who make moral equivalence arguments so annoying?
- Speed, on 04/04/2008, -7/+2Look at some of the comments in the Digg story about the lethal injection. Read some of the comments in the Digg story about the students who want guns in school. Listen to the NRA speak. Listen to political pundits, both left and right, speak. Look at Edmonton in 2006 when we made it into the playoffs (not a football person so I'll go with hockey and use something I know a bit about).
People in glass houses should not throw stones.- jamesdew, on 04/04/2008, -0/+5i dont believe america refers to itself as a nation of peace
- spongya77, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Funny, all the Americans talk about protecting peace (and democracy... ask the Iranians/Chileans/etc how they succeeded so far.)
- sonstone, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Although some would like to argue differently, the truth is that American does not have a theocracy so you can't redirect the argument to a non-religious institution.
- nardo510, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1"Funny, all the Americans talk about protecting peace (and democracy... ask the Iranians/Chileans/etc how they succeeded so far.)" Your missing the point. We Americans have democracy we just choose not to give a ***** if another country does or not. We have are own interest even if it means screwing people over and putting dictators in power.
- ErikHK, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2Christianity is still not a religion of peace (And why should it be, a religion cannot be changed), it is just that not many christians choose to lead their lives as the Bible tells them to, i.e killing your children if they swear to you etc. Everybody should read Dawkins' The God Delusion.
- kjm2664, on 04/04/2008, -13/+8and, all those americans who rioted after their favourite football team won the superbowl. and all those americans who rioted when guns and rose's cancelled their show. and all those americans . . . .
- Dundasbro, on 04/04/2008, -5/+30Funny, I don't see anything to do with the perpetrator being religious in the story...
- leexy, on 04/04/2008, -2/+18Stop making sense!
- spongya77, on 04/04/2008, -6/+0He was a sandnigger. Anything a sandnigger does, he does it because he's a Muslim, and hate your freedom.
/sarcasm off
It should have been familiar by now. They've been doing it with Jews, Irish, blacks, Mexicans and other brown people. If they do something bad, they do it because of their skin/religion.
And anyway, Saud Arabia is our friend, right? With friends like these who needs enemies?
- bosssmiley, on 04/04/2008, -3/+5Behold, the power of Islamic Websense! It doesn't just block you access to objectionable sites, it sends guys around to shoot you in the face if you're naughty.
- vpxx, on 04/04/2008, -9/+10Sadly most of you fail to notice that this act is considered murder in both Islam and the laws of Saudi Arabia. Whether or not the government of Saudi Arabia will act to punish the father is something different. However that doesn't give you, or any other person to attack a person who supports a religion yet acts on his own agenda. The only time a woman/man would be killed for such case is in the instance of adultery (by stoning and only if it fulfills certain criteria), and as you can see it is not what happened in this case. Furthermore it is irrelevant to go into the topic of stoning and argue whether it is right or wrong but the fact in this case is the father committed an act that is NOT part of Islam. Now let's see what the Quran says about this type of killing.
(58) When news is brought to one of them, of (the birth of) a female (child), his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief! (59) With shame does he hide himself from his people, because of the bad news he has had! Shall he retain it on (sufferance and) contempt, or bury it in the dust? Ah! what an evil (choice) they decide on? (Sura 16 verses 58-59)
This refers to the way Arabs used to kill their daughters before Islam was introduced (and during its early introduction) because in their time having a girl would bring them shame.
(31) Kill not your children for fear of want: We shall provide sustenance for them as well as for you. Verily the killing of them is a great sin. (Sura 17 verse 31)
(140) Lost are those who slay their children, from folly, without knowledge, and forbid food which Allah hath provided for them, inventing (lies) against Allah. They have indeed gone astray and heeded no guidance.
(151) Say: "Come, I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to shameful deeds. (Sura 6 verses 140 and 151)
Clearly the Quran condemns this act and its just funny how many people dugg you up without even trying to find out the truth of your statement. What's even funnier is that I will get dugg down however that will only show their ignorance.- vanzan, on 04/04/2008, -5/+5They will mostly digg you down.
Most of diggers are far from being objective. Some of them are extreme ignorants.- sonstone, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization
- RonnyN, on 04/04/2008, -2/+6Yeah...I know...the Quran forbids it.
How is it though that most terrorist organizations around the world are Muslim ones?
How do you explain the enormous amount of cases like this within the Muslim population?
For a book, it sure seems to be the most misunderstood book ever...- vpxx, on 04/04/2008, -2/+4First of all these type of killings are related to honor killings, and honor killing is cultural thing not a religious act done by Muslims only, I can provide you with information regarding many honor killing that is committed by people that are practicing another religion, does that make it an action that stems from their religion? Most probably no. I'm not saying their culture or traditions are right but thats where it came from, it did not come from the Islamic teachings. And what proves this is that Islamic law prohibits this.
And how is terrorism relevant to this topic? We are talking about how this action (that is similar to honor killing) is actually something that Islam supports or not, we aren't talking about Islam's point of view in terrorism. If you want to debate this I'm happy to entertain you but I'm sure you won't agree with me no matter what kind of answer I give so let's spare the digg community this irrelevant topic and just message me and we can debate by e-mail or whatever kind of contact method you prefer.
- vpxx, on 04/04/2008, -2/+4First of all these type of killings are related to honor killings, and honor killing is cultural thing not a religious act done by Muslims only, I can provide you with information regarding many honor killing that is committed by people that are practicing another religion, does that make it an action that stems from their religion? Most probably no. I'm not saying their culture or traditions are right but thats where it came from, it did not come from the Islamic teachings. And what proves this is that Islamic law prohibits this.
- ZachSka87, on 04/04/2008, -2/+1You're taking those out of context. You said yourself they bear the shame of having a girl when they want a boy. "Kill not your children on a plea of want (for a boy)"
Doesn't apply here. She was not killed because she was born a female, she was killed for browsing facebook. So yes, you will be dugg down (aka buried) but not for showing my ignorance, but rather your own. - tomz17, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1QUOTE : "The only time a woman/man would be killed for such case is in the instance of adultery (by stoning and only if it fulfills certain criteria), and as you can see it is not what happened in this case."
WHOA there... wait... you don't see anything wrong with this?!?!?- stonewaljacksn, on 04/07/2008, -0/+1you ever been cheated on?!!
i kid i kid
- stonewaljacksn, on 04/07/2008, -0/+1you ever been cheated on?!!
- vanzan, on 04/04/2008, -5/+5They will mostly digg you down.
- muzy, on 04/04/2008, -0/+6what he did is not part of Islam, I am a Muslim, and there is nothing not even one word in Quran or The prophet said about such a thing, this is a crazy ***** who is very ***** up in life and ignorant too.
thank you - Bodhinature, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2YES! Let's give them 20 Billion Dollars in arms! Oh, wait. We already did that...
- billlyboobs34, on 04/04/2008, -19/+1If she was talking with a woman I bet this wouldn't have happened.
- VortexSpin, on 04/04/2008, -40/+12Christians don't sound so wacko now, do they?
- KonstantinLevin, on 04/04/2008, -17/+27All they do is burn people at the stake, start inquisitions, lead crusades, that kinda stuff.
- Beveridge89, on 04/04/2008, -8/+23Really? Where I live they just go to Church and occassionally hold bake sales for charity.
- theaceoffire, on 04/04/2008, -3/+15Bunt cake of EVIL!
- paradigmx, on 04/04/2008, -2/+4how much jew is in your baked goods?
- geometry, on 04/04/2008, -6/+5That's only because they've accomplished becoming the dominant world religion. Now that they have the power they like to point at other religions and say "look at the evil things they do".
- bratterscain, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1So true. People in a position of power like to claim defense from others who want equal power or representation but lets not forget what had to be done to attain that power.
- unorginalityftw, on 04/04/2008, -4/+8I wish people would stop bringing up the Crusades, do you even understand the mechanisms and situations that started it?
- paradigmx, on 04/04/2008, -5/+4Christians where pissed they where not number 1, Islam was an easy target?
I think that about sums it up- Beveridge89, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Either that or Muslims invaded Christian Land.
- paradigmx, on 04/04/2008, -1/+0No, actually, Christians decided that Jerusalem belong to them, sent 3000 men to claim it as a Christian city, and god mad when the Muslins killed them. Thats a primary contributer right there, what did the Christians expect the Muslins to go "Oh *****, thats YOURS? I didn't know, sorry, we'll leave now."?
- Beveridge89, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Nope, the land was part of the predominantly Christian Byzantine Empire. The Uyammad Caliphate invaded and conquered Palestine. What, did you expect the Christians just to go "Oh *****, you've conquered it? Sorry, we'll just ignore you and let you have dominion over the Eastern Christians." I suppose thats a reasonable assumption, since situation in Europe meant they did do that for centuries. But when the Fatamids took over, started persecuting the Christians and destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and the situation in Europe stabilised, would you really expect them not to react?
- paradigmx, on 04/04/2008, -5/+4Christians where pissed they where not number 1, Islam was an easy target?
- BEloftyIRONS, on 04/04/2008, -3/+9At least the Christians are no longer in the dark ages. I think it might be time for Islam to join us in 2008.
- pintomp3, on 04/04/2008, -1/+4we just start phony wars instead because god told bush to do so. no suicide bombs for us, we have jet planes. and when we rape women, we kill their whole families to cover it up.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/17/iraq.u ...
we christians are so much better.- Beveridge89, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Hey look, and we punish those who do things like that. Not go running down the street cheering and praising God.
The moral equivalance game doesn't work. Iraq wasn't some holy war, whether Bush hears voices or not. Radical Islam has made us the enemy in their holy war, but that does not represent the whole of Islam, so trying to use it and Iraq to compare religions is a stupid argument.
If you want to see why the claimed Christian World is better than the claimed Islamic World, it is that those societies that claim to follow Christian values generally exhibit tolerance, equality and lberty, whereas those that claim to follow Islamic values are generally authoritarian, intolerant and tyrannous. Of course that also has the same flaws as any other method of comparing religions, but at least it proves the original posters point.
- Beveridge89, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Hey look, and we punish those who do things like that. Not go running down the street cheering and praising God.
- pintomp3, on 04/04/2008, -1/+4we just start phony wars instead because god told bush to do so. no suicide bombs for us, we have jet planes. and when we rape women, we kill their whole families to cover it up.
- maybeishould, on 04/04/2008, -3/+1Those were the Catholics, not Christians.
- custal, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1According to the Catholic doctrine, there aren't any other Christians.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Talk about ignorance!
- custal, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1According to the Catholic doctrine, there aren't any other Christians.
- Beveridge89, on 04/04/2008, -8/+23Really? Where I live they just go to Church and occassionally hold bake sales for charity.
- frooo, on 04/04/2008, -2/+12.. at least this guy is still less of a wackjob than most scientologists.
- paradigmx, on 04/04/2008, -0/+0It's not the scientologists themselves, they're just brainwashed, it's their leaders
- Namco, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Xenu?
- paradigmx, on 04/04/2008, -0/+0It's not the scientologists themselves, they're just brainwashed, it's their leaders
- Drogoganor, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3I guess morals are relative in your world.
- Thefatheroftime, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7Oh no no, Xtians don't sound so wacko now...
http://digg.com/world_news/Girl_Dies_After_Parents ...- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2And they're correctly being tried for murder. This honor killing perpetrator will get a slap on the wrist in Saudi Arabia.
- citizen782, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Yes.
- mikesuds, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3Any group of people who believe in FAKE ***** sound wacko.
- Treason, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Fiction
- KonstantinLevin, on 04/04/2008, -17/+27All they do is burn people at the stake, start inquisitions, lead crusades, that kinda stuff.
- DeskFlyer, on 04/04/2008, -2/+39So....is this guy in jail or no?
- TheWindBlows, on 04/04/2008, -2/+33No
- fuse13, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1yes, because murder is legal in saudi arabia, right?
dammit if i cant find an article to tell me what happened to the guy, but id suggest he might get the chop. murder is generally punished by beheading.- djbon2112, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3Except when it's for your family's "honour".
- fuse13, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1yes, because murder is legal in saudi arabia, right?
- unorginalityftw, on 04/04/2008, -1/+37It's Saudi Arabia...
- ladyzz, on 04/04/2008, -2/+11The jackass is probably considered some kind of F-ing hero for "doing the right thing" Arrrgghhh!!!!! Makes me SICK!!!
- terrix, on 04/04/2008, -3/+28Totally legal there under Islamic law, in fact his actions are probably lauded. Your talking about a country where women are killed for being raped in order to preserve the family honor because her chasity was violated.
- DeskFlyer, on 04/04/2008, -0/+4I love how common day law is governed by ancient and ambiguous holy literature.
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -4/+9Of course not. Muslims are innocent and never guilty. Always.
(no really, this is their belief) - KingGorilla, on 04/04/2008, -1/+13Jail? This guy probably got a medal
- TheWorm, on 04/04/2008, -2/+10I'm not intolerant, but I hate Islamicists.
- FilliSfandal, on 04/04/2008, -2/+5Savages. Their progress stopped the day they found oil. They will be a fun bunch of happy guys when they run out of it.
- FutureGuy, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2I doubt it, but lets see, without oil they would have been more like sudan or syria.
- nardo510, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1yeah without their oil they would be nothing.
- Radigg, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1he'll probably get a pat on the back, its dispeakable!
- diggimator, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1* despicable
- Ortheos, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Of course he is going to jail you ***** retards. If it's any consolation for any of you he will be beheaded by the sword, which is the standard punishment for murder. My uncle works in Saudi Arabia and while this kind of stuff does happen, the punishments are even more extreme. You will also find the details of this story on any arabic language newsource.
- TheWindBlows, on 04/04/2008, -2/+33No
- bernandoo, on 04/04/2008, -1/+113They're called honor killings.. and unfortunately happen all the time:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/02/02 ...- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -18/+5It's their country. Their a sovereign nation. It is, like it or not, their right.
- KMartSheriff, on 04/04/2008, -1/+15***** that.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -4/+1What are you going to do about it? Maybe we should go invade them? That will stop all the killings for sure.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -3/+3Dammit. *they're.
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2are you "special"?
- RamsesII, on 04/04/2008, -0/+7The right to live is the most basic human right, and transcends any law of nations. Murder is murder. It's not something anyone has the "right" to do.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -4/+9Oh really? Our [the US] government murders people every day, both at home and abroad, and they do it completely legally. Capital punishment? You heard of it?
Murder is not murder when it comes to nations. The very thing that makes a sovereign nation sovereign is the LEGITIMATE use of force. That means that the states of the world, which are recognized by the world, have the right to create and enforce their own laws. Who are we, Team America: World Police, to go around the world saying, "No. It's only okay to kill people when we do it."
Am I saying I agree with killing a girl because she went on Facebook? No. Of course not! That's atrocious. But it isn't illegal, and it's something that Saudi Arabia has to deal with. It's not our place. - dagnome1984, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Sorry it's not legitimate because some government says so. That is the appeal to authority logical fallacy. Just because someone condemns the actions of some ***** hole of a government does not mean they advocate intervening in that state's affairs. Those are two totally different things.You have your wires crossed on that. The people are right in that the rights of said individuals have been violated. Rights do not come from government but are logical self evident axioms. Also there is no such thing as a legitimate initiation of the use of force.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Wrong. The legitimate use of force is THE fundamental property of what makes a state a state. Everything else is supplemental. The world recognizes Saudi Arabia as a state, and so if they choose to enact and enforce laws that require force, that force is legitimate. I don't care if you don't like it, or don't think it should be that way, but it is.
Most of the Western world outside the US doesn't favor capital punishment either, but because we are a sovereign state we can do it, and there isn't jack ***** anyone else can really do about it without encroaching on our sovereignty. - StarlessKnight, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2@ralph: I'll repeat what dagnome said for you, "Just because someone condemns the actions of some ***** hole of a government does not mean they advocate intervening in that state's affairs."
"Rights do not come from government but are logical self evident axioms." -- Unalienable Human Rights.
Nations condemn other nations all the time (see: China and Human Rights violations) that does not mean we go to war with every single one of them. There a problem with one country saying "I think that's wrong and here's why..." to another? - ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -1/+0You can repeat it, but it still makes you wrong.
Is there something wrong with saying, "I think that's wrong and here's why?" No. But that's not the discussion at hand. The discussion is one of legitimate uses of force.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Wrong. The legitimate use of force is THE fundamental property of what makes a state a state. Everything else is supplemental. The world recognizes Saudi Arabia as a state, and so if they choose to enact and enforce laws that require force, that force is legitimate. I don't care if you don't like it, or don't think it should be that way, but it is.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -2/+1There are no natural rights...only things the government doesn't allow you to do.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -4/+9Oh really? Our [the US] government murders people every day, both at home and abroad, and they do it completely legally. Capital punishment? You heard of it?
- KMartSheriff, on 04/04/2008, -1/+15***** that.
- unorginalityftw, on 04/04/2008, -0/+12Somehow that just doesn't fit under what I deem honourable.
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2oh its totally honorable...if you are a complete sociopath with no soul that can't tell the difference between the life of your daughter and a monkey...i bet if we used the PCL-R on the middle eastern men living in those countries, they would fail miserably..hopefully there are more criminologists here that know what PCL-R is...if not..go fug yourself? assholes.
- vanzan, on 04/04/2008, -0/+12That is true. We have Christians Arabs who do these things. It's not really about Islam - as some try so hard to link it with it. It's about bedouin customs and culture. It's full of nonsense.
- RyanElston, on 04/04/2008, -6/+1Bedouin customs be damned, show me where in the Quran does it say NOT to shoot a daughter that has been on Facebook?
- Viend, on 04/04/2008, -0/+7Show me where in the Qur'an where it says to DO shoot a daughter who has been on facebook.
- Speed, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1You know what, I think you need to take a time out from the internet for a while, rethink that sentence, sleep on it, look up when the first Quran was believed to have been written or distributed, and then look up when guns were invented and when Facebook was created. Then maybe, just for confirmation of the lack of validity in that argument, look up that exact commandment in The Bible.
- RyanElston, on 04/04/2008, -6/+1Bedouin customs be damned, show me where in the Quran does it say NOT to shoot a daughter that has been on Facebook?
- cnot3, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Yes, they're quite common among the Klingon people as well.
- celticchrys, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Well, certain traits of the Klingon culture is based on tribal ideas of honor.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -18/+5It's their country. Their a sovereign nation. It is, like it or not, their right.
- sk11, on 04/04/2008, -4/+126Can't imagine what he might have done if he'd caught her on digg.
- ralphthemagi, on 04/04/2008, -2/+85Buried her?
- BEloftyIRONS, on 04/04/2008, -2/+9He probably would have let her live. He just would condemn her to life on Digg. It is a fate worse than death.
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1thrown to the lions
- GorfTron, on 04/04/2008, -2/+6Diggers don't reproduce.
- don2779, on 04/04/2008, -3/+10A girl on Digg. Me thinks not.
- Zekarus, on 04/04/2008, -2/+1I AM A GIRL!
I just happen to have a penis.
- Zekarus, on 04/04/2008, -2/+1I AM A GIRL!
- bingobongony, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3He'd have killed himself
- quomen, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7Imagine if he got rick rolled...
- Tunguska, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Heads would (rick) roll.
- Speed, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Probably would have been to ashamed to even kill her. Might have even wept.
- topgigmedia, on 04/04/2008, -2/+3I REALY hope we can one day lose our dependence on these sub-humans.
- audionet1, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3I second that! So barbaric.
- rjc1187, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2She should have been using firefox! she was using ie and when her dad came in she tried to close the window but it hung on her, desperately she tried to manually close with control alt delete, but it was too late...
- Ignited, on 04/04/2008, -23/+10The one thing that didn't surprise me - Submitter: MrBabyMan
- Flashman, on 04/04/2008, -1/+61Strange that he could think assault and murder were less offensive :/
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -6/+2Welcome to Islam.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2for your reading pleasure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -6/+2Welcome to Islam.
- noseeme, on 04/04/2008, -3/+15I think a little bit of a reformation is in order...
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -3/+6I don't know why this isn't being dugg up more. That is EXACTLY what is in order: a reformation on the scale of Luther. Why is there no Martin Luther stepping up to say "this is WRONG" about parts of traditional Islam that are objectively evil?
(Yes, that's right -- not every liberal believes in moral relativism. In fact, I'd wager a guess that most of us don't.)- Viend, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2Because most of the crap that happens in Saudi Arabia are not traditional Islamic methods. They're mostly just traditional Arab methods, which you won't see happening frequently in the Gulf states.
- nixfu, on 04/04/2008, -2/+3Will never happen.
Christianity believes that the bible is written by man who was influenced by God, therefore it was open to some interpretation over time.
Islam believes that the Quoran is the DIRECT WORDS of GOD and it is heretic to even consider interpreting it because since god wrote it he could not have been wrong and the words are all correct. That belief has doomed islam to stay the same way it was when it was founded by its murderous warlord pedophile prophet in the 7th century.- nardo510, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2I loved the way you put that.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -3/+6I don't know why this isn't being dugg up more. That is EXACTLY what is in order: a reformation on the scale of Luther. Why is there no Martin Luther stepping up to say "this is WRONG" about parts of traditional Islam that are objectively evil?
- mwrl, on 04/04/2008, -5/+28Ah once we make the switch to bio-fuels where with the Arabs hide? It will be open season.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -0/+7Not at all. What will happen is they'll become politically irrelevant. Nothing could be better either for us OR for them.
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -1/+5Ha, no. Drill ANWR, make good with the Canadians for their oil sands, improve Mexican ties and help their government (most of our oil comes from them, folks) and exploit the hell out of our own new natural gas plays just found in PA and SD. Oil is our buddy- it drives freedom. And we've got plenty of it for as long as we want it. The sooner we make good on our own domestic E&P, the sooner we can ween ourselves off the juice from the Middle East and Venezuela.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3What exactly do you have against biofuels?
- bosssmiley, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3They're a waste of perfectly good land and resources that could be used to grow food crops.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2lern2algae.
- ukblacknight, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2@Boss: It's not like your nation is running low on food though is it :P I bet farmers would get a better income from their crops being used as biofuels rather than food.
- bosssmiley, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3They're a waste of perfectly good land and resources that could be used to grow food crops.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3What exactly do you have against biofuels?
- jpstanle, on 04/04/2008, -5/+54And we consider the barbaric, backwards nation of Saudi Arabia an 'Ally' why?
...oh right, because they gouge us for oil.- BEloftyIRONS, on 04/04/2008, -0/+5I just can't wait until we no longer need oil or it dries up over there, which ever comes first. So sick ***** like him can just wither away in that demented litter box.
- phyuk, on 04/04/2008, -2/+37hmm nothing against the culture (although this story is pretty messed) but how would the saudi preacher know for a fact that facebook is a "hotbed of lustful activity" if he did not personally visit that site and felt....frisky?
- mrhuhk, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7Face = Sex! Geez. Why else would you wear a hajib, except to keep all that facey sexedness from turning teh Saudi guyz on?
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -4/+2you know how many broads i got with off that site...pornstar numbers. And I am an ugly mother facker..think about it.
- Roryking, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3No, you didn't.
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2did to
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3i didn't say if they were fat or not though
- travis1982, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2did to
- CPOliver, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Surely you mean "got off to with that site"...?
- Roryking, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3No, you didn't.
- billlyboobs34, on 04/04/2008, -3/+10Some might think this is inappropriate but does anyone have pics of what she looked like?
- parent, on 04/04/2008, -4/+5the only problem is, she probably knew something like this would happen, the dad HAS to kill the daughter, so his family still has respect This is the social norm
such a shame and waste of a human life - mrhuhk, on 04/04/2008, -2/+66It's great to see parents getting involved.
- Satanael, on 04/04/2008, -2/+16Well now I know better than to check my facebook when my three Saudi roommates are around. Thanks, digg.
- Identity4, on 04/04/2008, -2/+47This fundamentalism ***** has GOT to go....
- mzkply, on 04/04/2008, -5/+1Well, let's not expect it to go anywhere in Saudi if it's still alive and kickin' in the US of A ?
- fenris6644, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Except that Christians in America aren't murdering their daughters for being on Facebook. And our government wouldn't let such an act go unpunished. So your statement is total nonsense. GG!
- mzkply, on 04/04/2008, -5/+1Well, let's not expect it to go anywhere in Saudi if it's still alive and kickin' in the US of A ?
- Shadowgamers, on 04/04/2008, -10/+4How long before we start comparing our culture to theirs and calling them barbarians? :V
- mrhuhk, on 04/04/2008, -5/+2Skip a step: monkeys.
- erhanaltay, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3All cultures are not equal. Obviously no culture is perfect, but anyone can see that current Western culture is much better in every measurable way than Arabian culture. The solution? Stop pretending Saudi Arabia is an "Ally" when they are one of the biggest threats to human sanity.
- DarkoKun, on 04/04/2008, -7/+3mitur benisdirti
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Are your buffalo wings spicy?
- vegetables, on 04/04/2008, -5/+4Well holy *****. What can you say to this?
- Comp1demon, on 04/04/2008, -2/+4And this is what is wrong with the world...
IT's progress people ... If you allow someone to use technology and progress - you have no right to interpet the use of that technology as it pertains to religon, morals, cultrue.
This ***** makes me sick.... and we wonder why the world is half ass backwards...
I would love to punnish this individual by floggin him with different PC parts....- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Correction: Islamic countries are half-ass backwards. 1400s, anyone?
- darkcthulhu, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1The world is half ass backwards because of religion, the other half, I'm not sure about.
- akirakurosawa, on 04/04/2008, -0/+12Wonder what he might have done if he'd caught her on BoinkMeter.com
- Mexrocker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1haha, http://www.BoinkMeter.com/viewphotos.php?g=1&photo ...
people these days!
- Mexrocker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1haha, http://www.BoinkMeter.com/viewphotos.php?g=1&photo ...
- holyskeleton, on 04/04/2008, -2/+3In other news, thousand of mothers are lobbying the congress and participating in class action lawsuits against Facebook for misleading teenagers and putting them in danger.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1A lawsuit is nowhere near as violent as murder.
- erhanaltay, on 04/04/2008, -11/+27America invades Iraq, which has a SECULAR dictator but considers Saudi Arabia an ALLY when they are all religious fanatics. I say bomb Mecca, and I'm a Turk who grew up in a muslim culture. Islam = the problem. Don't let muslims convince you otherwise.
- Berkana, on 04/04/2008, -3/+4Not that I disagree with you that Islam itself is the root of this cultural problem, but if we were to bomb Mecca, we would be opening the gates of hell.
- Viend, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Bombing Mecca = End of the World.
You'd have riots in your streets and bombs in your room before you even know it.- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1If NYC or LA or San Fran or Atlanta (etc) gets nuked, then I say all bets are off, Nuke Mecca.
- floridiot2, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2Oh ***** a Turk.. like in Final Fantasy 7.. sweet. Do you know Reno?
- shesma, on 04/04/2008, -4/+1Turks will say and do anything to get into the EU. Pathetic.
- bitterjack, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1SECULAR. ALLY. Sorry. that's all I got.
- SpectreFire, on 04/04/2008, -4/+16Saudi Arabia: The land of the backwater morons.
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -9/+2Digg: The land of closet racists.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Um, no. How is being anti-Saudi Arabian culture being "racist?" He didn't say "LOL ARABZ ARE STOOPID."
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -9/+2Digg: The land of closet racists.
- TheArcticFoxx, on 04/04/2008, -2/+1This is an example of how natural human sexuality is repressed at it's finest.
- spacebuddy, on 04/04/2008, -9/+5These Arabs are retarded.
- leexy, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Make that Saudi Arabians.
- lestatse24, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Hey!, I'm Arab and Catholic! Muslim fundamentalists are the RETARDS! don't generalize!
- leexy, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Make that Saudi Arabians.
- ricky125, on 04/04/2008, -18/+6Muslims are retarded.
Christians are retarded.
Jews are retarded.- braeden0613, on 04/04/2008, -4/+6no hindus or buddhists?
brilliant comment- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -4/+2Hindus are retarded.
Buddhists are actually pretty ***** cool. - ricky125, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2I don't know any Hindus or Buddhists.
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1+1 for not making an uninformed decision
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -4/+2Hindus are retarded.
- VortexSpin, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1You are retarded.
- braeden0613, on 04/04/2008, -4/+6no hindus or buddhists?
- Drogoganor, on 04/04/2008, -1/+8Don't let the sense of superiority get to your head.
- GorfTron, on 04/04/2008, -3/+22Someone should make some cartoons about islam so that they can see how silly religion is. That will definitely work.
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -6/+25See, I'm all for religious freedom, but cases like this are where the line needs to be drawn. It's bad enough that religion has caused most of the wars the world has seen, but when a father is willing to kill his own daughter over it, there is something REALLY messed up in people's heads.
The saddest thing is, though, is that this isn't the first time, nor will it be the last. As long as people continue to believe in an invisible man who lives in the sky, people will continue to kill each other for non reason.
NO. *****. REASON.
Oh, humanity. What has happened to you? :(- vladimirpoopen, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2I think it's more about controlling people than the guy in the sky. You must do this because GOD says so!
How convenient! Without him... you have nothing to 'back your ***** up with.' - aaron117, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Try thinking of the invisible man in the sky while on acid.
Funny stuff. - darkamster07, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1...and you're still into religious freedom?
- celticchrys, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Religious freedom was not an issue in this case, I'm sure. If the people involved had believed in freedom of religion, a la the US Constitution, the problem would have been that he violated HER religious freedom. Through that lens, If she chose to do something against her father's religion, she should have been permitted to do so. You should not have to follow your parents religious beliefs or die. Of course, this is a modern, American viewpoint. This man was not a believer in any sort of religious freedom, obviously.
- jessieanderson, on 04/13/2008, -0/+0"religion has caused most of the wars the world has seen"
What religion caused the American Civil War, Vietnam War, WWII, WWI?
- vladimirpoopen, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2I think it's more about controlling people than the guy in the sky. You must do this because GOD says so!
- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -10/+23Quotes directly from the Quran.
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Ishaq:325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Now is that really peace? I don't see that word there. Oh wait, I know why, THEY ARE FROM THE QURAN. THE GUIDE TO THE RELIGION OF PEACE!- Drogoganor, on 04/04/2008, -10/+3See, I wouldn't have a problem with this stuff if it wasn't almost always attached to some hypocritical Christian-supremacist *****.
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -3/+7So because he disagrees with the Quran, he's a Christian-supremacist *****?
I happen to be an atheist and also agree that the Quran is BS. Does that make me an atheist-supremacist *****?- Drogoganor, on 04/04/2008, -6/+1Hey, cockjockey - try a little reading comprehension next time!
I said "almost always". - bitterjack, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1yes
- Drogoganor, on 04/04/2008, -6/+1Hey, cockjockey - try a little reading comprehension next time!
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -3/+7So because he disagrees with the Quran, he's a Christian-supremacist *****?
- SteelTallon, on 04/04/2008, -0/+4I suppose if you killed ALL that are non-believers of any religion, all you would have left is that religion.. Therefore, you would have (religious) peace...
That is just crazy talk! - fuse13, on 04/04/2008, -11/+18If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Christianity is a relgion of peace!- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -3/+7Don't forget Christ himself saying "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."
- Kumate, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2That's taken out of context like most of the time the Bible is quoted. If you read the versus surrounding Mathew 10:34 you will have a better understanding of what Jesus was saying. He was sending his 12 disciples out to witness for a short time. He was talking about aggressively confronting people who were doing things wrong but he wasn't telling the disciples to kill people.
- bitterjack, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1not a sword.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDqy22tlZhk&NR=1
- superfirex80, on 04/04/2008, -6/+1Buddhism FTW!
yes, I actually am Buddhist. - nixfu, on 04/04/2008, -3/+5Old testament does not apply to christians. Jesus created a new covenant between man and god and the rules of the old testament no longer apply.
- johnnyblazepw, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Im not a big church goer or anything, but you are right. People cant judge Christianity based on the old testament.
- Takuro, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2You're quoting the Old Testament... you do realize that. Right? Christianity = mainly New Testament. Judaism and others focus mainly on the Old Testament, which does admittingly portray a very vengeful God.
- Quaght, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Nice try...6/10. I'd explain all that to you but I'd be wasting yours and my time. Just suffice to say that:
a) Jews don't actually do those things now, unlike Muslims who seem to practice the particularly barbaric parts of the Qu'ran quite frequently, and
b) Those laws were set down in a time when people were much closer to God than we are now, and his holiness required very strict, clean living from his flock.- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2"Those laws were set down in a time when people were much closer to God than we are now, and his holiness required very strict, clean living from his flock."
Couldn't you say that about the Saudis, hence the man was justified? ;-)
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2"Those laws were set down in a time when people were much closer to God than we are now, and his holiness required very strict, clean living from his flock."
- shawn1122, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1I think we can all agree that the teachings of the Old Testament are not meant for the world we live in today, and Christianity itself is more focused on the New Testament. And just as an aside, anyone who kills in the name of God has misunderstood the meaning of their religion completely.
- starkruzr, on 04/04/2008, -3/+7Don't forget Christ himself saying "I come not to bring peace, but a sword."
- Aristarkhos, on 04/04/2008, -7/+1@guest1986: Thank you for those quotes. I have been trying to find references to the "peace" that is claimed to be there in the book.
The anger, hatred, and distrust towards Fitnahs stems from these very lines. Add that to years of strict schooling through religious leaders.- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -5/+0You are welcome
You can find more fancy stuff here http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -5/+0You are welcome
- RomeyRome, on 04/04/2008, -2/+3And how often do you hear of those being acted upon?
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2OMG, YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE BIBLE, YOU'LL GO TO HELLLLLL!
(you meant to reply to fuse right?)
- talonstriker, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2OMG, YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE BIBLE, YOU'LL GO TO HELLLLLL!
- CrudeDarkness, on 04/04/2008, -1/+2http://www.submission.info/perspectives/striving/w ...
http://www.i-keighley.com/commonly-misquoted-quran ...
http://facts-not-fear.blogspot.com/2007/04/most-co ...
stop misquoting the verses. - namar777, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3Dude, i've viewed ur account and the only thing uve done is digg anti-islam stuff... try to be more discrete than that... ur kind now better......
- lovelifenow, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3look at these numbers soon the same thing will happen here http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/islam-i ...
- Drogoganor, on 04/04/2008, -10/+3See, I wouldn't have a problem with this stuff if it wasn't almost always attached to some hypocritical Christian-supremacist *****.
- hopeast, on 04/04/2008, -8/+3This is exactly why I use Myspace instead of Facebook.
- chrissku, on 04/04/2008, -3/+8What if Myspace uses this in an ad campaign? Ok....that was my sick thought for the year. Sorry everyone.
- fuse13, on 04/04/2008, -3/+10Something about this story smells. i cant find any source for it except some cleric ali al-maliki mentioning it as part on an anti-facebook speech. There are no names, no other news stories, nothing. If true, the guy probably would have faced beheading, and surely that would have been newsworthy as well...
It is one of those stories that seems a perfect and compelling warning, so much so that I suspect the cleric made it up. I may be wrong, but right now I dont see enough evidence to see this as any more than a story a cleric told to emphasise a point.- fuse13, on 04/04/2008, -1/+5instead of digging me down, does anyone want to try to prove me wrong?
id genuinely like to know either way.- Viend, on 04/04/2008, -5/+2They're burying your comment because the majority of them are anti-theists who have no life and spend their time ranting on the internet where they are safe from harm.
- fuse13, on 04/04/2008, -1/+5instead of digging me down, does anyone want to try to prove me wrong?
- pharmakon, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2he was really worried facebook would end her up in a bad place, unlike that bullet.
- meells, on 04/04/2008, -1/+4Let's see how deep a hole I can dig....while we disagree with the means and motives of the 'gentleman' involved, it somehow seems eerily similar to a 'honor thy father' situation. When one doesn't of course we can't spare the rod, and at the very least, since her eye offended her oughtn't it be plucked out? Yes, yes I know, he probably has a mote in his own..but c'est la vie. At least she wasn't burned or stoned to death, that would have been too civilized. Wait a minute, I suddenly forget which religion of peace we were talking about.......
shoot. - tangential, on 04/04/2008, -1/+10NSFW over there means Not safe for women?
- fenris6644, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Or Nasty Sick ***** Wahhibists.
- sexydarin, on 04/04/2008, -4/+2***** most of what any religious text says. Just worship the creator, that's all he asks.
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -1/+4Unfortunately for your logic, those religious texts you're telling us to ***** are the only things that state that a "creator" exists in the first place.
- reddy76, on 04/04/2008, -8/+1religion=sh*t
- Stryder81, on 04/04/2008, -11/+16I swear if one isn't careful on digg, they can catch a heart attack.
How so many give such Naive & ignorant comments to this day on a social news site is incredible to me.
First off, This is in " Saudi Arabia " done by an " Arabian Individual " it has NOTHING to do with Religion.
# 2, Whether you or I like it, that is the way they operate over there. Knowing that, You should not play with fire unless it is justified one way or another, unless you are a female.
Those of you bashing on Religion so quickly just because of a story or 2 then taking out verses that are meant for one thing and not the other to try and justify your own personal disagreement shows nothing more than pure ignorance at it's finest.
Bottom Line, This girl was going on there looking for a guy, not to socialize with friends. You people who look at this as " wow thats crazy, all she did was talk to a guy " are the same ones who look at 14 year olds on Maury Povich with 10 kids and say " Damn, society today has really changed " and flip the channel.
If you live somewhere where you can't wear a red shirt, don't wear it or move. What is so complicated.
I don't condone murder, I don't care what it's for, but don't try to push the buttons of the hand that feeds you especially in a country that has had these laws for many many years.
Laws of the LAND ( Saudi Arabia ) not " The Qu'ran "- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -5/+6So you believe that if I make my own country, and say that it's illegal to live in any other country in the world, and violators will be punished by death, that it's ok because it's the laws of a different land?
Your logic is flawed, and you're uneducated. Most laws in MANY middle eastern countries are based ENTIRELY on religion. Most of the things that people do out there are based on religion. You may not realize this, due to how twisted their religions might seem to you (I'm sure you only grew up acquainted to the sheltered Christian and Catholic religions that most people know growing up).
It may be difficult for you to understand, but do make an effort to comprehend this:
This was an act of religion. This was an act of violence. They ARE hand in hand. Period. It's not the answer any of us WANT to hear, but it's the truth.- Stryder81, on 04/04/2008, -3/+3lol I really don't appreciate you trying to throw insults at me but I'll cool it out like this * Cracks neck *
Speak realistically for a moment, don't bring out things that aren't possible.
My knowledge on Islam is a little more than you might think right now but we'll leave it at that. You're right, they write some of their laws based on the Qur'an but to the extent of using the contexts literally and not for what they are meant to be ( as some are analogies, etc. )
As far as me being sheltered, I'm born and raised in N.Y.C., It's literally impossible for me to be sheltered.
Their religion isn't that twisted as you think, it is probably alot purer than alot of other religions as far as how they pray, what they do, how they do things, etc.
What happens is, some states do take things to extreme while others are more moderate. The prophet Mohammed for example had seen an individual in a Mosque who would pray non-stops for days on end. 1 Day the prophet asked " Why is this man praying so much, does he not have a wife or family? " and the man he was speaking to replied " He wants to be closer to God, show his love for God " and Mohammed said " He does not have to abandon all that he has and knows for God to love him but to take care of those who need him "
Point of that is, The states that exist today that write these " Laws " in such towards the Qur'an take it to an Extreme than what the meanings actually are which in turn falls on them as a people or country and not the Qur'an's fault.
And to the individual below me " The Basic Law In 1992 " is what you just pointed out....1992....I rest my case with you.
- Stryder81, on 04/04/2008, -3/+3lol I really don't appreciate you trying to throw insults at me but I'll cool it out like this * Cracks neck *
- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -4/+4Law in Saudi Arabia
The Basic Law, in 1992, declared that Saudi Arabia is a monarchy ruled by the progeny of King Abd Al Aziz Al Saud. It also declared the Qur'an as the constitution of the country, governed on the basis of Islamic law.[11]
So their law is actually ISLAM and the Quran! - carl25, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1talking to someone is now a crime ? or a punishable offense ?The same hand that fed her, just killed her.
Well i guess killing her will protect her from possibly getting raped or assaulted by the person on facebook.- Stryder81, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2Try this.
He murdered the girl, her line and name ends with the facebook account.
If she continued, she gets together with that guy and another guy and so on, has a kid maybe or 2, reputation becomes a little whatever and the family name gets dragged in the dirt with it for generations to come.
Get it now?- Orcmors, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Kill own flesh and blood lest the family name gets soiled... That's some ***** up priorities right there.
And you know that the girl is going to be promiscuous, how? I have chatted with other men online does that mean I'm gay? We're talking in this tread, does that mean you want to ***** me? Or does it only apply to lowly women that can't control their libido? - Stryder81, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1It's the " Exposure " to things outside of the family is what it is more importantly about.
Personally, I'm a " straight " guy so us conversating stays just as that you wackadoo lol.
There's a difference when looking just to conversate and looking for a " guy " where this was the case.
The whole argument I made was solely to make the case that this wasn't so much about " Religion " than it was the individuals choice and people need to understand that. Not be so quick to demean a religion based on a persons choice of action.
- Orcmors, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Kill own flesh and blood lest the family name gets soiled... That's some ***** up priorities right there.
- Stryder81, on 04/04/2008, -3/+2Try this.
- WestonP, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3On Digg, it will always be about religion, because that's what people want to trash on. My experience has been that people who go around spreading hate and intolerance tend to be full of crap, no matter if it's in the name of religion or anti-religion.
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -5/+6So you believe that if I make my own country, and say that it's illegal to live in any other country in the world, and violators will be punished by death, that it's ok because it's the laws of a different land?
- yacks, on 04/04/2008, -1/+10Duplicate!!! I saw this last week here.. and another MrBabyMan story was a duplicate from last week as well.. mmm..
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Thanks for the heads up! I'm going to go undigg this now because of some dupe from a week ago that probably didn't even hit the front page! Keep up the good work, yacks!
- yacks, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Actually it did hit the first page.. along with the other one i saw a dupe of from him..
actually it was 3 days ago!
http://digg.com/people/Facebook_Girl_Beaten_And_Sh ...
Here's the other MrBabyMan Dupe entry
http://digg.com/general_sciences/CERN_to_Morons_La ...
which is a dupe of this which also hit the front page...4 days ago
http://digg.com/general_sciences/No_the_LHC_won_t_ ...
- yacks, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Actually it did hit the first page.. along with the other one i saw a dupe of from him..
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -2/+2Thanks for the heads up! I'm going to go undigg this now because of some dupe from a week ago that probably didn't even hit the front page! Keep up the good work, yacks!
- slyzxx, on 04/04/2008, -8/+9what is digg turning into anti islam ?...
- enzomedici, on 04/04/2008, -3/+4Anti-Islam? The Saudi's have clearly lost their mind. Their religious ideas are insane and are against all human rights. We shouldn't be fighting the war in Iraq, we should be fighting Saudi Arabia.
- Viend, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Plus if you've met Gulf Arabs, they generally don't like Saudis. The majority of Muslims don't like the Saudi laws, which are very flawed. Unless you haven't noticed, these kind of stories generally happen among Saudis or immigrants.
- guest1986, on 04/04/2008, -4/+3We are just digging the truth. Remember what happened with "Fitna, the movie"?
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -2/+7Why would you even assume that? The internet hates all religions equally.
- Berkana, on 04/04/2008, -4/+2No, it's anti ass-hat.
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -3/+0The Internet as a community with its inherent ideals, is anti-Islam. It can't exist the other way.
- leexy, on 04/04/2008, -1/+3I'm going out on a limb here, but I suppose that most people here are from the US. The MIC needs to come up with new enemies once in a while and the current trend is at demonizing Islam and Muslims. Nothing new really...
- enzomedici, on 04/04/2008, -3/+4Anti-Islam? The Saudi's have clearly lost their mind. Their religious ideas are insane and are against all human rights. We shouldn't be fighting the war in Iraq, we should be fighting Saudi Arabia.
- afflaf, on 04/04/2008, -4/+4Is this really that weird compared to the wack ***** that happens in the states and the rest of the modern world? or is it just blown up cause they're arabs?
- RobotCitizen, on 04/04/2008, -6/+10The abrahamic religions are a blight upon this earth.
- Swivelstick, on 04/04/2008, -7/+2VALLEYWAG:
Silicon Valley's Tech Gossip Rag
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/30/rape.tape.gir ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302059,00.html- Swivelstick, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1Bias is a wonderful thing indeed
- topapito, on 04/04/2008, -3/+4What year are we in? Just checking...
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7Saudi murderer: 1421
You and me: 2008 - Ortheos, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1According to America's invasions of sovereign nations and the killing of hundreds of thousands of civilians, America is still in the 10th century.
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -1/+7Saudi murderer: 1421
- TheYuppie, on 04/04/2008, -5/+8Now something to melt your mind: Islamic country birthrates are at least twice - and in some cases thrice - higher than Western birthrates. Italy and Spain already can't be saved by themselves- Islamicization has already made them succumb. Germany and Russia are next.
The West is too convenienced by its Juicy Couture, leased ML500s and subprime homes to be bothered with children that might cramp our style, to at least par off the replacement rate. At least the U.S. is maintaining 2.11 as of 2005, the world's highest birthrate, and barely enough to sustain what we have now. The goal is to be the last man standing in this battle.
The next 25 years will see a swell of radical Islamic activity like this because the demographic is primarily all young teenage boys. Then they'll get old and arthritic if they haven't martyr'd themselves already. While Europe will be half-Islam by then, Americans will still be in a position to stay on top of our culture.
Moral of the story? Get baby-making.- Swivelstick, on 04/04/2008, -3/+1the guppy
- pintomp3, on 04/04/2008, -3/+1you sound like you would fit right in here:
http://www.quiverfull.com/ - hayashi, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Dumb Digg comment system.
- hayashi, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3No in 25 years the world will be half Chinese.
- nixfu, on 04/04/2008, -0/+3
Hopefully, someday the state of Amerixico will be strong enough to fight off the attacks from Eurabia.
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -0/+2Note: Digg does not inherently hate any religion; all religions are inherently violent.
End of story.- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1I take this back. Not ALL religions are inherently violent. There are a few legitimate religions that genuinely preach peace and good will, and god bless them.
(No pun intended)
- D14BL0, on 04/04/2008, -0/+1I take this back. Not ALL religions are inherently violent. There are a few legitimate religions that genuinely preach peace and good will, and god bless them.
- Bozodog, on 04/04/2008, -1/+1Buried for BlogSpam
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