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- syberghost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22If you can't see the difference between the US, Canada, and North Korea, let me suggest the following exercise:
Visit the capital city of each of the above. Find a police officer, and ask if you can speak to him for a few seconds. If he says yes, tell him that the leader of his country is an *****.
In the US and Canada, the outcome will be that the police officer will either say "yes, he is" or "sir, I'm very busy, is there something else I can help you with?" Report back to us on what happens with the North Korean policeman. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22We probably should've invaded this and not the other thing.
- tlmac59, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14All this is not even from military grade satellites, which have to be much better.
- drinkGreen, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Yes it is ok for U.S. to have them. U.S., along with other countries, have had the experience and the trust to have warheads, and know how and when and when NOT to use them accordingly. It has nothing to do with who has invaded most recently.
If you have two kids, one normal and one bat-***** crazy, and the normal one gets a slingshot that doesn't mean you should give the crazy kid one too. - syberghost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13We won't have to; Japan will. Our system is just in case they miss.
- syberghost, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10They expect us to notice.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9They have already announced that the US Military will attempt to shoot it down. Think of it as a "test" on our missle defense system.
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9It's interesting that the missile defense program was "activated" today, along with massive wargames in the Pacific. I imagine that the US is preparing to blow this thing out of the sky if it is launched and strays too far away from N Korea.
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10It isn't a matter of straying too far. From the sounds of things, if it is fired, it will be shot down regardless. They have been warned.
- CosmicJustice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@bleggy
The capitol of the United States isn't in a state. - screampants, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@ Kevin: they don't need to launch it. Now they have some serious bargaining power and thats all they need.
- tuna1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12No you moron. Because this nutcase is launching missles over Japan, where they have the potential to cause Japanese civilian, U.S. military casualties in Japan, and now the potential for Alaska (possibliy the West Coast of the U.S. mainland). Not to mention the potential to provoke the ROK.
No it's not okay for NK to have them. The Koreas are still technically at war. It's not in the interests of the ROK or the U.S. for Pyongyang to obtain the missle technology to mount one of their [potential] nukes onto a warhead. If they do, they can cause great instability in a region already with already strained relations. Then it becomes the interest of the world for them not to get this technology.
Iraq has nothing to do with this, please go spout your Bush-obsessed rhetoric on a more suited topic. - sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Just because you didn't hear anything about it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm
http://www.americanfreepress.net/03_17_03/North_Korean_Missile_/north_korean_missile_.html - TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Not every country is allowed the same rights based on their history and present intent and behavior.....its the same reason Iran shouldn't enrich uranium....
- RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Mrkite, North Korea blackmails the world for foreign aid in the form of food, oil and medicine.
- nyccharlie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Kim Jong Il: Now you see, the changing of the worrd is inevitabre!
Lisa: I'm sorry, it's what?
Kim Jong Il: Inevit, inevitabre.
Lisa: One more time.
Kim Jong Il: [shouts] Inevitebre! Jesus Christ, open your ***** ears! - percyhanna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Sam Fisher will solve everything...
- aviazn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"We probably should've invaded this and not the other thing."
If only we could've. But because North Korea already had nuclear weapons, we couldn't--attacking a rogue state *after* they've acquired nukes is a bad idea. Thus, the rationale for a preemptive strike against Saddam--if we couldn't take down North Korea, we could at least prevent another dictator from acquiring the same power. - Desolite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Nuclear Launch Detected.
- dkarlson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Someone set us up the bomb!
- snupples, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&ll=40.855914,129.662468&spn=0.005664,0.010053&t=k&om=1
Manufacturing facility on the left side. Launch pad on the right. The control center's a little above. - stomicron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"How could they possibly expect to launch a missle and have us not notice?"
They don't expect us to "not notice". That's the whole point. Read the headlines ouside of digg. Pyongyang's been pretty public about the whole mess. - tlmac59, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This will give you lat/long - http://www.astronautix.com/sites/musudan.htm
- loveandrockets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I went to the location in Google Earth and you can see many facilities in that area. (the No Dong area near Musu-dong). Also interesting is the DMZ. You can see a whole line across the country with bunkers and other facilities.
It's incredible. 10 years ago this kind of info would only be in the hands of intelligence specialists. Now the whole world can look at that kook's backyard. Power to the people! - andyshep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6From The Korea Times on 3/13/2003
NK Missile Warhead Found in Alaska By Ryu Jin Staff Reporter
The warhead of a long-range missile test-fired by North Korea was found in the U.S. state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed yesterday.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm
But don't take my word for it. Go read the article yourself. - endersadvocate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Meh.. They have already stated that theyre just working on the worlds largest jar of kimchi..
people dont lie about things that serious - dankoleary, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Can someone toss up an alternate link / Google Earth info? Thanks!
- b0wl0fud0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"The US's recently installed ground based interceptor missile defence system has been activated and may be called into use if the communist regime defies warnings over firing the Taepondong rocket, a US defence official told Reuters."
Here's a link to an article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,,1802095,00.html - Desolite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6i was actually thinking starcraft, but C&C works too :D
- sweeper1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8C&C Generals?
- drinkGreen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@viclopez
I just hope our test passes. Otherwise, it will make things look bad. And I don't mean in an embarassing way. - Allometry, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@callmejordy265
I'm really troubled by your comment... It's obvious that you don't see North Korea as a threat, so, offer me the chance to change your mind.
If you are a liberal, you should be immediately inclined to think about the people living in North Korea. If you're educated, you'll know that living condition in N. Korea is the absolute worst. Food is very, very hard to come by.
If your on the other side of the political scale, then the people matter, but as a responsibility to our own people, safety is first... If N. Korea has a weapon that can hit a very populated part of the United States, oh say, Los Angeles, then we have to take the threat seriously.
If N. Korea launches an empty missile near a large American city, there will be hell to pay... I'm not usually confrontational, but in the case of N. Korea starting *****, as an American and as for my other American Brothers and Sisters, I won't be bullied around by some ***** who thinks he invented hamburgers.
Think what you will about the Iraq war, but those men and women stand for your rights and your safety. They'll even fight for it if you don't want it, because it's that important.
Take what's going on in N. Korea very seriously and get educated. You sound young and you should be concerned about having to fight for your country... Because just like a previous poster said, the Korean war never ended and the draft is still around. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8If highly doubt that N.Korea would go as far as to launch any missile of any kind
if they were to do so, on the USA for example, they would regret it, the USA has a right to defend itself
and other countries would condem what N.Korea did for doing so, so KIM would be no god to the N.Koreans anymore after - otatop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Missile defense is slightly more difficult than missile offense.
- jwoelich, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"They're just flexing a little bit and saying "Hey, look at what I can do.""
Like Stuart on MadTV?
"China, Japan and South Korea wouldn't like that- but the USA wouldn't give a *****. So unless everyone in the region was nice and calm, accepting a bitch slap from the USA, WW3 would likely start."
That's another reason why we wouldn't use a nuke. For a country that small, it would effect too many surrounding innocent regions. Much better to just go the conventional route. - Specks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@aviazn
N. Korea claims to have nukes. Since he doesn't follow the rules everyone else does he wont have any problems with above ground tests to prove that he has them. So far he hasn't done so. So all it is is posturing at the moment.
Anyone want to take a guess when Pajama Boy is going to launch his toy and aggravate everyone? He's going to do it since the only way to dismantle the thing after fueling it up is to either launch it in to the ocean or blow it up. - lostngone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4drinkGreen, are you saying the U.S. is trustworthy?
The U.S. have proven time and time again that its not trustworthy. The U.S. is the only country that has used them against another. - rnelsonee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4http://tinyurl.com/nk23y
Can't really see anything referenced in the article on GMaps, but it sure is a high-quality image - looks like someone's been interested in getting good pics of the area. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"drinkGreen" keeps going; "When other countries are reporting on it, not just the US, and Korea THEMSELVES verify it, then yes I KNOW."
Everyone can report anything, what matters if it is true or not true.
The next word we will learn today is the word propaganda:
propaganda
n.
1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.
"tomokatsu" asks; "Are you trying to deny that N. Korea is threatening to fire "test" missiles?"
Of course I do, as is any critically thinking human being.
North Korea has been trying to develop an oil-independent energy grid for years
but every time it has started on a project the US has intervened and stopped it.
It's fantastic how little propaganda it takes nowadays to make people believe
the most fantastic stories thanks to a little racist propaganda brainwashing
by the film industry, the media and a corrupt government.
Educate yourself people, you are making yourself look like ignorant rednecks.
Some suggestions on where to start:
PROPAGANDA IN THEORY AND PRACTICE
How Does It Work?
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/propaganda.html
PROPAGANDA - General (theory, practice and history)
http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vf01.cfm?folder=715&outfit=pmt
You will also want to learn how to recognize disinformation and disinformers;
Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth:
The Rules of Disinformation
(Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist)
http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/artcls/disinfo.htm
And of course long-time spy Philip Agee's own account of things;
The Pot Calling the Kettle Black: The USA and International Terrorism
http://www.ucimc.org/newswire/display/2729/index.php
Now, back to current fun and games with North Korea...
How much did you know about Rumsfeld's (yup, that's scumbag Rumsfeld)
involvement in this whole affair?
I'll give you a little hint to make your starting point a bit smoother...
2000: Rumsfeld was a director of a company which wins $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea
2002: Rumsfeld declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change
The two faces of Rumsfeld
http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html#article_continue
Rumsfeld was on ABB board during deal with North Korea
http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=1648385
The promise was that the US should help North Korea to build "light water reactors"
that would power the country if North Korea promised not to build it's own nuclear
reactors.
The problem: US never held it's promise (surprise?). And when the winter in 2002 was closing in
and threatened to kill thousands of people, North Korea said *fsck it!* we need
energy NOW and we'll build our own reactors instead of waiting for reactors that
probably never will come (which of course was right).
Perfect! Now the Bush administration had the excuse they wanted and could say "Look! They are building nuclear powerplants even though they said they wouldn't(sic)."
Remember how the US blocked all oil-ships going to Japan in the 40's so that
Japan would have to take miltary action against the US?
Same trick different country. - MOOCHY, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If they did nuke the US, the result would be a parking lot for China to use. Of course the UN would throw a fit, but a country is allowed to defend itself. I think most Americans would agree if they lost a whole city to a nuke (i.e. LA, Seattle). IMHO I don't think that China would ever allow the little dictator to do that.
- floorman56, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Because this one can reach L.A. and Chicago. NOW it's a problem.
- TubaTechno, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8so peaceful words will solve everything? WAKE UP YOU'RE DREAMING!
- SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3No, the strategy "an eye for an eye" does not bode well in nuclear war.
North Korea is not stupid enough to launch a nuke anyway, this is just a test ICBM. They're just flexing a little bit and saying "Hey, look at what I can do." - dw2005, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"All this is not even from military grade satellites, which have to be much better."
I dunno this dosen't look much better than the pics Colin Powell showed off at the UN when he was trying to convince everyone Iraq had WMDs and we all know how that turned out (unless you watch FOX)
I sincerly doubt NK is stupid enough to fire a missile at the US, since the US could easily 0wn them 2 times over in the time it takes for them to program the destination coordinates of a long range missile - drinkGreen, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6screw the damn photos. I couldn't care less about a photo or a satellite image.
we KNOW that Korea is planning to launch a test warhead. case closed. - percyhanna, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Maybe they should just take out the axcess road...
- tidu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3nothing is secret anymore
- spider-man, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I dunno this dosen't look much better than the pics Colin Powell showed off at the UN"
Do you REALLY think Powell is going to "show off" our best satellite surveillance technology to the UN (and thus the general public)? Get real. - lnxaddct, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Those reports are not reputable in the least, and both are coming from reporters with an agenda. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but how about something with a little reputation? BBC?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How does anybody see anything in these pictures?
I'd like to see what the government's satellites can do. -
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