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- BlueSkyfish, on 01/08/2008, -30/+99The whole reason I want Blu-ray to lose is because of its DRM. Both HD-DVD and Bluray use AACS, but it's the layer of BD+ that you should worry about. It allows Blu-ray producers to run any program they want on your player (think rootkit). They can even disable your player if they think you're running a hack.
Because of this, Blu-ray is the ideal format for the MPAA, but the worst format for consumers. That's why so many studios are backing it. It's not because of the extra storage, its not because Sony paid then off, it's because it gives them more control over you. - samdu, on 01/08/2008, -11/+51If Toshiba thinks that PC drives will save HD DVD, it's no wonder they lost the movie war.
- elvenseven, on 01/08/2008, -1/+37Who buys porn on a disc anyways.
- maninblac1, on 01/08/2008, -10/+40I don't know how people get the idea that HD DVD is going to take over the PC industry, where do they get these ideas?
Every major PC manufacturer besides Toshiba is pro Bluray, Dell, Apple, HP, Sony, and Acer all are members of the Bluray disc association. Apple, Dell, HP, and Sony are all board directors. I doubt HD DVD will make it to the PC market, especially with infearior disc capacity.
Additionally, there are 17 models of bluray drives and burners available or soon to be available for the PC. Number of HD DVD's not found in laptops, or the 360. 2, an LG and ASUS model.
Wow, this is going to rock the industry to the core. - samdu, on 01/08/2008, -1/+271. Porn will have very little effect on this format war - Internet FTW!
2. Vivid has been Blu pretty much from the start
3. The second biggest porn company recently went format neutral - MindTrigger, on 01/08/2008, -2/+24Yeah, let's be honest here. How many of us are going to buy all of our movies in Blu, and then buy an HD-DVD drive for our PCs? That's just some dumb logic there. I don't know about you guys, but I like to at least keep some personal tech "standards" in the house.
The only possible chance they have with this strategy is if they can make the HD-DVD drives and media dirt cheap right now. We are talking stupid-cheap like $30-50 for the drive, and CDR prices for the disks. - fudsak, on 01/08/2008, -4/+24So he thinks the average idiot is going to buy a computer with an HD-DVD drive in it, after he's heard that "Blu-Ray beat HD-DVD in the format war"?
I wouldn't count on it. - Nidy1, on 01/08/2008, -4/+22"We asked him the big question: "Is HD DVD dead ?" His answer might surprise you."
Not with a title like that it won't. - Chewie67, on 01/08/2008, -2/+20The "Porn Industry will decide the winner" theory is bogus. It's based on what happened with VHS and BetaMax, but it has no relevance today.
In 2008, you can get all the free porn you want on the InterWeb. You don't need to go to a local movie rental house to get it, so the format is irrelevant. Anyone who wants to get their freak on just loads up their browser.
Most Porn Stars don't want to be shot in HD either, because it shows flaws, scars and stretch marks more clearly, so I doubt you'll see many titles released on HD anyway. - cavie2002, on 01/08/2008, -15/+33hd-dvd is not dead at all, we can still use the discs to make disco balls
- superkendall, on 01/08/2008, -7/+24Not "any program they want". Just the program included on the disc, meant to decode the disc itself. And it's a Java program, that cannot access your local system... the FUD around BD+ is madness!
- BlueSkyfish, on 01/08/2008, -6/+22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD%2B
- Renton, on 01/08/2008, -1/+17From the wiki:
"execute native code, possibly to patch an otherwise insecure system."
Now why would a patch just revert back after you take the disc out. Would you have to patch the player every time you watch a movie.
Here's the source it links to:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/vectors/brcp. ...
yes, Wikipedia has sources. Don't discredit it just because it disagrees with your bias. - one2gamble, on 01/08/2008, -3/+18You store your data on optical disks?
- CrimsonBlur, on 01/08/2008, -3/+16HD-DVD is dead. I don't care what Samsung says, there is no way HD-DVD will take over the PC market when Toshiba and Microsoft are the only people in that sector backing it. Everyone else is behind Blu-ray, including Apple, Dell and of course Sony. HD-DVD is in the exact same situation in the PC market that they were in the Hollywood market, and that didn't turn out well.
- shinythingy, on 01/08/2008, -1/+14Who buys porn?
- wilson316, on 01/08/2008, -1/+12At first I thought the first one that comes out with a $100 player wins.
Oh well, I guess the studios are dictating our choice now. - thrallie, on 01/08/2008, -0/+115gb
- bevans, on 01/08/2008, -0/+11"...Toshiba to really concentrate on the PC HD DVD market since it's deader than disco if it loses there"
F-me......disco is dead? - LemonDefragger, on 01/08/2008, -2/+12Damnit I love Samsung, but I think they just want the war to go on so they can sell their dual format players a bit longer.
- xkorbin, on 01/08/2008, -3/+12So, according to that PC Drive HD-DVD garbage, why couldn't BluRay makers deny the PC market, and the HD-DVD market could harness it?
If we couldn't buy burners to pirate bluray discs, what will happen? - samdu, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8Is that you, Mr. Gates?
- tendonut, on 01/09/2008, -1/+9Do any of you actually have HDTVs? If you have a 1080p set, going from DVD to a HD disc format is like moving from VHS to DVD all over again.
- norman619, on 01/08/2008, -5/+13LOL!!! Dude on the horizon is HVD. THAT most likely will be the next PC storage format. It's currently in used in broadcast studios. HD DVD and Blu-Ray are not the future of PC storage.
- Jargonaut06, on 01/08/2008, -1/+8almost as dead as HD-DVD!
- LordHelmet, on 01/08/2008, -7/+13Hmmm...rip the blu ray...burn to hd dvd...return blu ray to netflix...play movie on xbox 360
- theaceoffire, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6USA dreams of this.
- lcmatt, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Go back a few years and people said the same about downloading DVD's. Look at China with 100mbps connections for instance, they could download a HD movie in the same time as we download normal DVD's.
- HenvY, on 01/08/2008, -4/+10Blu-Ray is the superior storage format and way ahead in writing/burner technology atm. I hope this doesn't happen, for the consumers sake.
- Jargonaut06, on 01/08/2008, -1/+7Better argument than Samsung's VP's.
- kingmanic, on 01/08/2008, -1/+6Curiously both beta and VHS had porn. This little urban myth is amusing but inaccurate. Look for beta porn and you will find it. Porn is not that influential in the original race and neither is it influential now. Both old formats have porn. Both new formats have porn.
- MRintheKeys, on 01/08/2008, -2/+7I think the storage capacity answer that came first was better. Go with that.
- Chompy, on 01/08/2008, -2/+7Yeah, Microsoft totally has no influence on OEMs at all.
You know I'd be pissed about differing formats on PCs and home theater, but it's not like you can watch newer DVDs on your PC anyway. Not without installing a *****-ton of spyware. Remember back when DVDs just worked? - InvaderDem, on 01/08/2008, -2/+7If five years from now, Blu-Ray is the standard for Hollywood and HD-DVD is the standard for PC ... does that mean that I wouldn't be able to watch my movies on my PC because it's not a BluRay player? To be honest, I think people are looking for alternatives for a format that has unfortunately lost. My preference was a HD-DVD player, but the way the cards were dealt didn't favor HD-DVD.
- vman81, on 01/08/2008, -0/+5People keep mentioning the porn industry, but they don't weigh as heavily as they did when consumers had the choice between a shoddy flick show PUBLICLY, with everything that entailed, or the privacy of their home. The home solution offered more privacy.
Now the choice is between a newer HD format, and seeing the pores in the skin of every actor/actress, 5 years overdue to retire from the industry, or downloading SD/HD content online (again offering even more privacy).
For porn; online distribution is king... or hey, atleast for me :) - Izzio, on 01/08/2008, -1/+5"Most people...don't care about what format is most popular," says Jun.
Yes, most people don't care about spending hundreds of dollars on a player that may or may not actually keep getting discs made for it. - vancanucksfan, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4samsung is only saying this so they can sell more of their expensive hybrid players and HD DVD drives. Of course they are going to say that, they are in this business to sell and make money. If they straight up said yeah don't buy anything HD DVD, it will kill some of their profits.
- inactive, on 01/08/2008, -1/+5Maybe just buy a HD DVD RW drive, and download all the ripped blu ray content and burn to HD DVD ahhhh
- nicktheawesome, on 01/09/2008, -1/+5Did you figure this out all by yourself?
- AlKo, on 01/08/2008, -2/+6Betamax failed, but Bluray is succeeding because Sony learned that controlling content is the way to win a format war. Especially with the MPAA.
- djepik, on 01/09/2008, -0/+4Could everyone please take a step back and realize that the format that has won this war wasn't even able to properly spell blue?
- elvenseven, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4Maybe in 2030 that would be possible.
- crackedplastic, on 01/08/2008, -16/+20***** both HD-DVD and Blu Ray. When a more substantial format comes out, THEN it'll be time to switch.
Until then, regular DVD really ain't that bad. - flammenwurfer, on 01/08/2008, -3/+7This is why buying a PS3 makes so much sense. Maybe neither format will "win", but even if they both lose I can still watch HD content in the mean time, and when it's all said and done my PS3 will still be able to play games, and do all the other crap it can do.
- HappyScrappy, on 01/09/2008, -0/+3This Samsung person says that HD-DVD has a lead in computer drives. This isn't true at all. There are very few HD-DVD writers and not a lot of HD-DVD readers outside the Xbox 360 USB external drive.
- superkendall, on 01/08/2008, -3/+6So can Blu-Ray content, you can take H.264 video and burn it to a DVD and play Blu-Ray players will play it. HD-DVD supporters, sorry but you guys are really reaching for advantages at this point and starting to just make stuff up now for exclusives.
- bejayel, on 01/08/2008, -1/+4not by much though. they will still fail eventually if you dont keep them in satisfactory conditions. That said, the Xbox was a huge player in this war. Had they released the external at a better price, or even integrated, this war would have either been over, or still been going strong. I know that had it come with built in HD DVD i would have bought an xbox instead, and i am a ps3 person. Though, i do still admit defeat in certain areas to the 360
- schnikies79, on 01/09/2008, -1/+4No it's not. The move to DVD from VHS was just as much about convenience as it was quality. The DVD's don't degrade, the don't have to be rewound, etc.
HD is just a step up in quality. There is no other value and for some people (including me), it's not worth it. My dad as a 50something inch sony panel with blu-ray. Yea it's look great. Does it impress me enough to shell out money? Not even close.
Until I can get a nice sized 1080p for sub $300, I'm not going to bother. Video entrainment isn't worth that much to me. - anonydigg, on 01/09/2008, -0/+3Neither are uncompressed. From memory: AVCHD (.h264) & MPEG2
They are just less lossy and therefore have better quality but take up more space. -
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