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- Sokkratez, on 12/21/2008, -7/+160128GB capacity is nail 1.28 of a minimum requirement of 10 nails.
- int19h, on 12/21/2008, -4/+134SSD will take over, no dubt. It will take a few years, though.
- HamSandwich, on 12/22/2008, -2/+129Your "active lifestyle".... wtf, are you planning on surfing the net while you're jogging?? Give me a break.
- Lane, on 12/21/2008, -5/+1271500GB FOR $129.99
How can you even ask if the HDD is dead? Ive gotten more physical HDD's in my pc now than I ever had. Why not? You can have a 0+1 or raid 5 going on for cheap as hell. - webborocks, on 12/21/2008, -1/+103they need a few more advancements yet before the cheap and chearful hdd dies out
- Evilblobs, on 12/22/2008, -1/+101When SSD pricing stops looking something along the lines of this
500 GB HD - $60
500 GB SSD - $6000
then SSD might finally nail the HDD coffin.
until then, ill keep buying Hard Drives - aznhomig, on 12/22/2008, -2/+79Nope.
Not until price-per-GB goes down. - RobotCitizen, on 12/22/2008, -3/+79Start downloading 720p matroska vids and see how quickly 1.5TB evaporates.
- HamNCheese, on 12/22/2008, -0/+73> I've cringed more than once listening to the read/write head crash into platters going 5400 rpms whilst a HDD laptop owner shifts their tush
No modern hard drive does this anymore. The sound you hear is the heads auto-parking as the motion/drop sensor detects movement. But yes, if dropping your laptop like an idiot is your definition of "active lifestyle", then SSD may just be the thing for you... - themastersb, on 12/22/2008, -0/+48You're going by capacity alone. Dont forget price.
- swiftheart, on 12/22/2008, -0/+41Your comment becomes really funny when I imagine it in the voice of the comic book store guy from the Simpsons.
- Memnochxx, on 12/22/2008, -0/+36Not really an issue. --> http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1204/shockpv6.p ...
- LoneWolf01, on 12/22/2008, -2/+37The "final nail"? Have there been any other nails in said coffin?
- MrEcho, on 12/22/2008, -3/+35I love this line:
"32GB, 64GB or even 128GB may seem like a miserably small amount of space, but bear in mind that Vista and its pagefile only needs about 20GB."
Only 20GB?!?!?!
When my Swap partition hits 1MB I start looking for apps that have a mem leak. - AndrewMoyer, on 12/22/2008, -1/+30Yeah, I just bought a 1TB external HDD today for practically pocket change...
SSD has a way to go yet... and HDD is not going to go quietly! - Scr4tchFury, on 12/22/2008, -0/+29SSDs are screws and HHDs are nails. They have similar price/performance issues.
- LowFuel, on 12/22/2008, -1/+29That's what she said.
- mdoom, on 12/22/2008, -1/+27The first nail could be the final nail...would have to be one hell of a nail though
- YoctoYotta, on 12/22/2008, -1/+25Psshhh, you people and your facts.
- vista64, on 12/21/2008, -11/+34Only so many read write's before a SSD becomes flakey, HDD will live on and on i think
- grumpyrain, on 12/21/2008, -1/+21Modern SSDs have wear levelling which gives them a longer MTBF than hard drives (certainly at the consumer level anyway, maybe not yet at enterprise).
Write speed (particularly random writes) may be problematically slow because they can't just flip an individual cell, but with enough caching it may be a non issue.
Dan's Data did a comparison last week.
http://www.dansdata.com/ssds.htm
I am going to be profiling database access performance on a SSD storage device for our product in the new year, and I am quite hopeful that in real world tests they are pretty close to practical. - LukeBeaumont, on 12/22/2008, -0/+17They are reliable enough for general use.
- cquinnd, on 12/21/2008, -2/+19SSDs now measure rewrites in the millions for individual cells. The MTBF for an SSD should come close against a HDD. But that is only one issue that keeps SSDs from becoming a full on replacement for HDDs in the near future.
I wonder how much effort is being put into continuing the Hybrid drive designs, that tried to put the best of SSD and HDD technology together. - AmusedToDeath, on 12/22/2008, -2/+19Have you invented some sort of magical frictionless non-mechanical wheel system that never wears out? Please, do tell. Religion?
- drizzlelicious, on 12/22/2008, -3/+20Buried for "final nail in HDD's coffin".
- brainflakes, on 12/22/2008, -0/+16You know you *can* upgrade the hdd of a laptop after you buy it, you don't have to wait for the perfect laptop. I got a cheap acer and then stuck extra ram and a much bigger hdd in it for less then the cost of the next model up.
- Me1000, on 12/22/2008, -8/+24I accidentally advancement.
- grumpyrain, on 12/22/2008, -10/+26Few people really need 1.5TB. Once you are talking about RAID 5, you need three disks, which at your quoted price is just shy of $400. Then you need to add a RAID controller to the mix. (Btw, you can RAID SSDs in the exact same way as HDs).
For predictable read patterns (eg, playing a movie from disk), Seek latency is not a real problem in this application, and rotational latency and I/O bandwidth can easily cope, but HDs will win hands down because of a lower $/GB.
But for random reads, SSDs absolutely trounce HDs (by a factor of 2->3x) in real world performance. Turn off the fancy caching HDs all do these days and the difference grows even further. High random read speed is really desirable for multi-tasking.
In terms of costs, although HDs are cheaper per/GB, SSDs have a possibility of being sold for well under $50 (with a tiny capacity). HDs cost more than this to manufacture regardless of the physical size of the disk. - dizzy113, on 12/22/2008, -2/+17Not going to happen for at least 5 more years (probably more). They will take over the notebooks first for sure, but for heavy media users and company file/email servers the hard drive will still be king! I just installed 2 1TB drives in a raid mirror at a client and they are using about 400 GB of it already, how much would that cost in SSD? ...how much would it cost a year from now?
- dhughes, on 12/22/2008, -1/+16 The whir of mechanical hard drives will soon be a sound that's forgotten like the electronic staticy buzz of modems.
- kjk437, on 12/22/2008, -1/+16@RobotCitizen
2 weeks after a 1.5TB purchase, and I have 500 GB of 720p/1080p mkv's, 400 GB of SD/HD TV shows, 200 GB of music, and about 150 GB of applications/games. Yeah, I'd say 1.5TB disappeared pretty quickly. And I don't compare to most at my campus. - sheetrock, on 12/22/2008, -0/+13deee deee deee deee DEEEEEEE tshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(my first modem, internal 2400 baud) - Quickbreak, on 12/22/2008, -1/+13The whole title is an abbreviated question: "Are SSD advancements the final nail in HDD's coffin?" But when writing headlines people either get lazy or try to be catchy—or both—and they often simply imply the verbs.
Another problem I have with the title, though, is the fact that "advancements" is somewhat ambiguous. What advancements? How recent? Simply adding "recent" or "the latest" would have been a decent touch. - inactive, on 12/22/2008, -2/+14Toshiba has a 512 GB SSD now
- jamesdew, on 12/22/2008, -0/+12Well they did say vista + it's pagefile.
- doom777, on 12/22/2008, -1/+13Why does it have to be a competition?
64GB SSD - 80dollars. Put your OS and frequently used programs here
500GB HDD - 100dollars (SATA 3.0Gbps) Put your videos, music, pictures, documents, etc. here - emt1451, on 12/22/2008, -2/+132010 will be the year of SSDs!!!
- inactive, on 12/22/2008, -2/+13Seem to do a pretty ***** good job to me.
What do you suggest? - ericdano, on 12/22/2008, -4/+15TechRadar? Seriously, terrible articles, and a crappy site.
- Culyt, on 12/22/2008, -1/+12flashcard != SSD
- Giga, on 12/22/2008, -0/+10Sounded like they were complaining about reliability while moving a spinning hard drive - not performance.
- ACiDGRiM, on 12/22/2008, -0/+10I don't even need 200MB/s. I simply store videos and watch them from time to time over my LAN. If they made 20-50MB/s SSDs at 500GB affordably i'd switch over.
- inactive, on 12/22/2008, -2/+12I bet laptop users care.
- Craig1394, on 12/22/2008, -0/+10They are certainly more reliable than Optical "burned" Discs like CD-R's and DVD-R's.
- bipolarruledout, on 12/22/2008, -0/+9Amazing the amount of faith people have in their magnetic platters.
- tnoy, on 12/22/2008, -1/+10Modern SSDs operate in the 200MB/s+ range in read and write, and have latencies in the microseconds.
I'd like to know what harddrives you're buying that are faster than that... - noumuon, on 12/22/2008, -4/+13fail for not understanding headlines.
- morerunes, on 12/22/2008, -0/+9I stopped reading when they tried to compare the price of a solid state drive to a graphics card. Interesting enough though.
- tnoy, on 12/22/2008, -1/+9The *only* thing that will cause the SSD to kill the traditional harddrive, will be when the price per gigabyte is the same.
- Murdats, on 12/22/2008, -4/+12this has been the year of the SSD, you see them everywhere now, they have an established market outside the research lab, you are talking about the year the HDD dies
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