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- redmond007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22the jpgs are too small to read
- antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Mirror: http://web.archive.org/web/20060518004119/http://www.antonraubenweiss.com/gibson/gallery/neuromancer-graphicnovel/index.html
- Troff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19@RadiantBeing:
"Neuromancer is a great novel but impossible to translate into film. The Matrix got around Gibson's wacky polygonal cyberspace by making the computer world look exactly like the real world. Putting the superhero-like abilities of the agents and hackers against the backdrop of the mundane is a lot easier to film and more visually interesting than Gibson's original vision. Who is going to sit through all the scenes in which a "virus" breaks through "ice?" These work brilliantly thanks to Gibson's skill with English but would be dull and repetitive in CGI."
Apologies, RB. There isn't a single part of your statement with which I could agree.
- It's not impossible, it wouldn't be impossible at all. It's been DONE.
- "Johnny Mnemonic" used "Gibson's wacky polygonal cyberspace". How many effects shots went into making "The Matrix"? How much modelling and rendering time was spent doing the Burly Brawl scene with six zillion Smiths and a rendered Neo? If anything, OpenGL quality graphics would be MUCH easier. It's like Monolith making the "TRON 2.0" video game - they realised they could make a compelling game with an absorbing world that didn't HAVE to reflect reality, it had its own consistent scheme instead that didn't have to look like the real world.
- "more visually interesting than Gibson's original vision": step outside and you can see "the real world", the only difference is we don't have all those Smiths and a Neo who can fly. Shots like the opening scenes of "Mnemonic" or (shudder) "Lawnmower Man/2" have a design all of their own - and an attraction in that they DON'T exist in our world. That's the sort of stuff we see regularly, routinely, now in superhero movies.
- `Who is going to sit through all the scenes in which a "virus" breaks through "ice?"' - um... a quarter of the people on Digg, most of the people on Slashdot, anyone working in CGI right now and pretty much anybody in the computer industry and/or who was raised in the 70s, 80s or 90s and anybody who comments on the graphics in video games?
- "These work brilliantly thanks to Gibson's skill with English but would be dull and repetitive in CGI.": Gibson's skill with English lets him describe a VISUALISATION of a process of a virus attacking "ice". On top of that, it'd be down to whoever was the visual designer. The whole art-style has spawned the visuals in those movies, not to mention the art used in CCGs like Netrunner, the book art in the "Shadowrun" "Virtual Realities" supplement, the introductory CGI used in "TRON", the other afore-mentioned movies. That'd work brilliantly thanks to the Visual Designer and modeller's skills with design and CGI.
No offence intended, but it WOULD work. Indeed... it already has. Repeatedly. - AngryBacon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Are you telling me that you don't have Neuromancer memorized?
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Holy crap, those ARE tiny. - ahill7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Neuromancer rates high on my bookshelf. Alongside "Snow Crash".
I'm glad that at least it was considered to be a full graphic novel. I'd like to see both Neuromancer and Snow Crash to be translated to the big screen, although as with all books turn movie, it would lose the essence of the imagination (Seeing the Ice in the matrix). - RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Neuromancer is a great novel but impossible to translate into film. The Matrix got around Gibson's wacky polygonal cyberspace by making the computer world look exactly like the real world. Putting the superhero-like abilities of the agents and hackers against the backdrop of the mundane is a lot easier to film and more visually interesting than Gibson's original vision. Who is going to sit through all the scenes in which a "virus" breaks through "ice?" These work brilliantly thanks to Gibson's skill with English but would be dull and repetitive in CGI.
- muka3d, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12PDF version of this: http://www.sendspace.com/file/hj0mg6
- synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I think it could be done, but in order to do it well the film would have to find some way to make the cyberspace scenes visually appealing and innovative, the characters deeper, and the plot compressed to standard film length. Emphasize the globe-trotting, the culture of that era (the body modifications and fusion with technology) and the world in which the characters live- make it about a real, living future world. This would keep the cyberpunk flavor while keeping it a very different film from anything related to The Matrix.
- kolanos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Snow Crash would be like The Matrix meets Pirates of the Carribean meets the Da Vinci Code meets Fight Club -- or something like that.
- jibone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7What do you think of Neuromancer to become a film? Or was it done before?,..
- Toast1185, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7We actually read the necromancer for one my classes, which turned me onto the fact that a screenplay was actually being drafted for the book. We saw this clip, not sure if it's the real deal, but it looks pretty bad. http://www.kokos.cz/bradkoun/movies/neuromancer.txt
Furthermore, the wiki confirms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_hell#Neuromancer - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10"Free JPGs" lol.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6From 0 to dead in less than 13 minutes. Impressive.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7No, read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? than watch Bladerunner. :D
- NeoCortex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If they made a Neuromancer film, the Cyberspace elements (if kept to what was described in the book) would likely be similar to what was seen in Hackers. I don't know if I could take that for half a film.
- xioner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5A Neuromancer film would be aweseom, especially if they did not try to update it. No need to worry about Gibson's version of cyberspace, it still sounds sweet.
Problem is that the rights were bought years ago and the film has been totaly locked down in lawsuits and failed projects ever since. - mobtek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5WTF does Molly look like a guy? :)
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6dotted for correct use of dugg. wait, no. dugg for correct use of...dootedsdlfkj
- halosniper7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8as opposed to JPGs for sale.
- aussieaubs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5its duggdotted..... bloodyhell digg - fix this friggin problem....... cache it before you release the page...
- Fallout911, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Get the audiobook here!!
http://www.greylodge.org/gpc/?p=119 - zaren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7In my local library they have an audiobook of Neuromancer, read by WIlliam Gibson himself. Very interesting to hear such a classic story read aloud by the author.
It also has incidental background music by some group called U2... - GiJoeBob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I had a few copies of this GN and I ended up getting them signed by Gibson at ArmadilloCon. He told me that he was not thrilled at the quality of the artwork. LOL
I would like to see this novel as a movie as well. But as others have said, it would be difficult to do. Just look at another of Gibson's works make into a film - Johnny Mnemonic - what a dog that was. - markperia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6dont bother with the graphic novel. The artwork is annoyingly bad. Rather than complementing the story it just takes you away from it.
The book however is stunning. - Rell812, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4For some reason the art bothers me. Neuromancer either needs a super realistic or a super stylized art style...the sort of 80's ideal look they gave the characters is kinda lame.
But I don't know if a Neuromancer movie would work very well. The pace of the book doesn't seem like it would translate very well.
Snow Crash, however, would make a great movie...mainly because most of the book's length comes from skippable scenes reciting ancient Sumerian myths. We get it, Neal, you drew some parallels, let us get on with the story. Plus, there's plenty of action and goofy stuff. - Gneisbaard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Johnny mnemonic was a piece of crap though... Especially the ending was super lame!
- Predater, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They did make a Neuromancer game long time back. It's available on abandanware game sites. The game was great. Came pretty close to capturing the novel's idea.
- Deranged, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Duggmirror is getting slow.... They need to be on top of things a little more...
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't forget the swords.
- jeffgtr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Agreed, the book is wonderful, as is the sequel Count Zero, stay away from the graphic novel, it will ruin it for you.
- Evanmontegarde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Neuromancer has been one of my favorite novels since I first read it three or four years ago (And re-read it several times to actually make sense of it...). I really don't see how a movie would work, The Matrix is honestly the closest that I think is possible.
- dougdug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I still have this one from when it came out - had no idea it was rare. I would agree with Gibson about the artwork, though.
Once a year, every year, I reread Gibson's 'Sprawl' series.
And every year I am amazed by how well it has held up ... - pmclinn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The game for the commodore 64 was great. One of my favorite games ever.
- m0laria, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Swords don't run out of ammo.
- djsputnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3in the post-matrix era, neuromancer would never translate to film. the graphic novel however, i've been trying to get my hands on a copy for years. now if the site would just load. . .
- streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dunno... I appreciate the effort that went into this, but I still prefer how it all looked in my head.
- dholle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's been a life long dream to see Neuromancer brought to the big screen. It would take a few geniuses to accomplish the task (we all remember Johnny Mnemonic). Or how about Bill's screenplay for the Alien franchise being made? One of the biggest disappointments I've ever had as a kid was going to a cyberpunk author symposium where Mr. Gibson was supposed to speak. He couldn't make it because of an ear infection. I was completely bummed but got an ever better present: turned on to some other great authors in that genre at a great moment in it's history. Rudy Rucker, Bruce Sterling (who was saying in the 90's we would be facing a global threat from fundamentalist Islam (check Wired)). Hollywood got freaked out when Cyberpunk didn't work for the big screen at it's first few attempts, but how come they didn't ride the Matrix success further? What we need is a killer screenplay for Neuromancer, or even Snow Crash, another fine novel that would be great for the screen.
- cavadela, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I own a copy of this in Portuguese. I didn't know it was a "rare" edition. I also have a copy of the paperback Neuromancer in English and then a hard-cover in Portuguese. If I remember correctly it jumps over several parts of the novel, more or less like movie adaptations sometimes do. Maybe this was an attempt to storyboard a movie adaptation that never made it and got published as a graphic novel?? Never thought about it that way.
- GTPBearSuit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You, sir, win the internets!
- zzpza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2why go to all the trouble of scanning, uploading and hosting with pix this small? you can hardly read them.
however, imho that's for the best. case, molly, rats, julius, everybody looks wrong. as do the locations. this is not the world or people i imagined, so i'll stick with the version in my head.
i also second that GitS and SAC are the closest we've come to a neuromancer film.
good find though. - dontera, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dso does anyone have a mirror of this, or better copies? Would love to see it since Neuromancer is one of my all-time favorites.
- tooasianguys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Dugg for an awesome book and an amazing writer
- jsd8cc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This pic is cool, but who the hell is Chase?
http://www.antonraubenweiss.com/gibson/gallery/neuromancer-graphicnovel/page-05.JPG - Troff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I too have the print copy of this. Not mentioned in this article is that the second chapter EXISTS. Its pages were printed as the "centrefold" in "The Ultimate Cyberpunk", the Cyberpunk anthology edited by Pat Cadigan. Check Amazon. Try http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Cyberpunk-Pat-Cadigan/dp/0743452399 .
To all the people saying it's not possible to make a movie: it's possible. "Johnny Mnemonic" is proof-of-concept.
To all the people saying The Matrix is the closest we can get: not even close. The culture is just NOT the same. "Neuromancer" is culturally, sociologically and technologically Cyberpunk. "The Matrix" is post-apocalyptic science-fantasy; no corporations, no politics (what, that disagreement between the Zion council on how to defend against the machines??), no economics and the closest there was to a real "hack" was Trinity running NMap in the power station.
Apologies and respect... but no. "The Matrix" is not "Neuromancer". And "Neuromancer" the movie could work. The PC game already exists. TWO chapters of the comic adaption exist. The audiobook exists. The PREQUEL short-story AND movie exist. Don't say it can't be done... when it already HAS. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just cast Steve Buscemi as Case and the chick from the Matrix as Molly. Armitage and all the supporting characters don't matter so much..but you can totally see Buscemi as some drug-addicted loser with an exceptional gift.
- neckfire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ugh. Johnny Mnemonic is such a horrible rendition of the short story. The story takes place over what...like a half hour? But then they added in all this garbage filler and Henry Rollins and Ice T and made the dolphin a main character and molly a love interest.....barf! (Don't get me wrong I love both Rollins and Ice T- just not in this movie.) Molly (Jane in the movie) Johnny's bodyguard could eviscerate Johnny with a blink of her mirrored eye, in the movie she's his love interest and Johnny is the action hero. All wrong- the film is a piece of rubbish.
Give me a version of the film where a desperate man is holding an Adidias gym bag containing an antiquated shotgun filled with 2 rounds he machined himself... now thats the moxy :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Who is going to sit through all the scenes in which a "virus" breaks through "ice?""
Anyone who played the C64, Amiga, or Apple IIGS versions of Neuromancer knows how exciting a battle with hardcore AI can be, both viscerally and visually.
Nothing is more hardcore than hearing your own heart rate monitor going nuts while you're getting hammered by a nasty AI, and launching the final volley of cracking software seconds before your impending death, hoping and praying that you'll finally break it and live. That game, despite the poor graphics and constant 'insert disc X' prompts, was one of the most thrilling games in the cracking genre. Nothing has compared to it since except for maybe Uplink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uplink_(computer_game) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah it's too bad that as Gibson ages, so does the genre he created (along with Neal Stephenson). I still like the whole gritty Cyberpunk feel, but Gibson has abandoned that world and now creates stories in the very near future. Crap like Idoru has really hurt my opinion of the man.
- scottjl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i actually have a few copies of this in my archives somewhere. they never continued with the rest of the book though. :(
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