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- deadlift, on 05/23/2008, -3/+35Sounds like a rimjob to me.
Right? - InfamousAtheist, on 05/23/2008, -3/+32I have no doubt that this is already happening in the US.
Thanks for selling out your users, RIM. - asasas12, on 05/23/2008, -4/+18War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength - Chairboy, on 05/23/2008, -2/+13I was going to be subtle and say "That's quite a job RIM's doing" and let someone else interpret my lotus-like pagoda of verbal origami.... but I guess your approach works just as well.
- Clugenheim, on 05/23/2008, -2/+11Two words: Patriot Act.
It IS happening, and it's all in the name of the non-existent "war on terror". - sockpuppets, on 05/23/2008, -1/+10Living under a rock?
- whereiseljefe, on 05/23/2008, -0/+9The best route is to assume they are monitoring.
If they aren't its no biggie.
If they are you don't want to get caught with your pants down, now do you.
Of course its not just a governmental issue. Never trust that any communication you make where you can't watch the data get from point A to point B hasn't been looked at by someone other than the intended recipients. - MacBookForMe, on 05/23/2008, -1/+8If you allow them or not, they are doing that at all times
- foofightrs777, on 05/23/2008, -0/+6And Americans wonder how the Germans could have been so stupid/naive/blind.
- inactive, on 05/23/2008, -1/+7Well, India is one of the country where maximum number of sting operations are conducted by the press and most of the time politicians are caught.
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers3/paper212. ...
I guess privacy and freedom go in opposite directions. - Khast, on 05/23/2008, -0/+5Welcome to the new global era of Big Brother. The world is rapidly giving up it's privacy in the name of security.
So, now the big question... They can now peer into your digital life, what are they going to do with this information?
Wish it weren't so, but it probably isn't for the people's best interest... - Trichomonas, on 05/23/2008, -1/+6Nokia, Samsung and HTC are a lot more popular in India than BBs (from my friends and what I've personally seen...also tech forums like xda-developers).
This was more of a publicity stunt so the government can say they are making an effort to fight terrorism by closely monitoring communication. It has absolutely nothing to do with the privacy of the common person or even the corporations at all. - kday, on 05/23/2008, -0/+5OMG, terrorists with blackberrys!!!!
- inactive, on 05/23/2008, -1/+6Rim doesn't care, more cash for them
- foofightrs777, on 05/23/2008, -0/+4Probably something along the lines of drunken wage slaves.
- thall, on 05/23/2008, -0/+4svensko, the RF signal is not likely being monitored, it's the data transported on the network that is and the network is a big black box unless you work for the network company. How do you tell if you're being monitored at that level? Scientifically you inject some input and watch how the output changes...try sending a false "red flag" message to someone in another country and see if a pizza van starts to park outside your house.
- dark1587, on 05/23/2008, -0/+4Ummm... what exactly are they going to do/see? All of the data on RIM's network goes across an encrypted connection, if I recall correctly. All they will see is a bunch of junk data.
- inactive, on 05/23/2008, -3/+7Bad day for the worlds largest democracy.
- arrrapirate, on 05/23/2008, -8/+11the thing is, if it were america, england, china, or somewhere in europe, everyone would be making a HUGE stink. but since it's india, everyone just thinks of elephants, apu, and bad traffic.
*cue all sorts of 1984 comments* - jggr, on 05/23/2008, -0/+3Only if she wants to kiss you afterwards.
- viksmaester, on 05/23/2008, -0/+3People are probably not aware of this but India faces a huge terrorist threat from Jehadis (anyone of heard of recent string of blasts in Jaipur?) These guys use emails, texts, chat rooms to communicate. I personally feel safer with this move, comes at a price but I also know that my personal info won't be sniffed for misused by federal agencies...I'm sure they have better and bigger things to look into
- spoonchucks, on 05/23/2008, -1/+4Would it be better if he said "Rajkumar is watching you?"
Jeez, just take the joke at face value. - newstart, on 05/23/2008, -1/+4At the rate Indian economy is going these stereotypes will be broken soon. I am worried about how they will stereotype us in the years to come....
- warrior007, on 05/23/2008, -2/+4because of few people we can not blame entire community
- Mikidogo, on 05/23/2008, -1/+3Oh, I see what you did there.
- jp12380, on 05/23/2008, -1/+3Wait, are you saying a rimjob is bad? :P
- gnomead, on 05/23/2008, -4/+6I'm Indian, and I like funny stereotypes, but this is unfunny. Hollywood has made people too lazy to come up with their own stereotypes. Take 'dunecoon' for example. That's funny. The guy who came up with that has you beat in terms of humour and ignorance. How am I supposed to get offended if you won't even try?
- foofightrs777, on 05/23/2008, -0/+2Security and profit. The later is quite important as without it half of the equation is unsatisfied.
- inactive, on 05/23/2008, -4/+6Listen guy, that old generation which used to hate India is almost over. New generation of Muslims in India love India as much as you do. India also had a muslim President recently (and 4 in all) and he was the most respected guy during the last few years in India. All the terrorist activities originates from Pakistan and Bangladesh and the illegal migrants from these countries. You can not blame the whole community for this. Sometime people in India also get involved but that is largely due to lack of education in their community. The rest of the trouble is created by people like you by claiming Indian Muslim to be Pakistani. Shame on you.
- DigitAl56K, on 05/23/2008, -1/+3Use Google, it's what it's there for.
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/wireless/57966. ...
Obviously the French government has enough concern not to use it.
You might as well assume the US government and it's agencies are doing almost anything you can think of that might invade your privacy because every time anyone accuses them of anything it turns out to be true. - dstz, on 05/23/2008, -2/+4Good thing it's not China, the article would have had at least 5 times more diggs.
- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1Oh Yeah, This is my favorite part.
How long does it take for some one who is in power to abuse this ?,
Say congress wants to foil next election, it can just throw security biscuits and monitor their opposition 24/7. Or monitor people who represent groups like Human Rights. Or a politician doesn't like you so he will put 24/7 eye on you.
Is that ok for you ? - Giever, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1I -wish- more Americans were like Indiana Jones. I bet the number of archaeological adventures would quadruple, at the least.
- boombye, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1Would rather have Aishraiya Rai or however you spell her name watching me, or that Priya Rai chick spying on me.
- Giever, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1"If you are not doing anything illegal or wrong then you don't have anything to afraid and if you are doing unlawful things then they(Govt.) is right in monitoring you."
Is the one thing you shouldn't say to argue your point. I think a lot of people try to use this as a means to prove their side of it, but, really, it's not about worrying about the diamond smuggling you're telling your friends about on your blackberry, or putting up on twitter (okay so it would just be dumb to do that, but, hey, I'm playing to the fads).
It's about individual rights. Once you start making sacrifices for security, etc., etc. (this argument has been going on for how long now? Since before our government existed? Guess it just proves how silly it is for me to bother responding to it.) - dark1587, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2Never mind... they are getting the encryption keys. That's bad. Real bad. Even though this applies to personal users, I foresee this affecting business users as well.
Here is a far better story than engadget with more details on the subject:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Telecom/Govt_m ... - aserer511, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2I feel like the Indian gov't means well but you can't pull network stability of your ass. No offense to India, a nation that produces many techies, but if RIM can't get it right I doubt some bureaucrats can.
- inactive, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1I hope you are not head of any intelligence agency.
There are lot more ways transmit stuff on net other than blogs and social communities. - EndlessRain, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2That's an interesting point of view. However, if this happened in China or Russia would you come to the same conclusion?
- retawd, on 05/23/2008, -3/+4Don't be ignorant Evidence is annoying... It involves all these complicated facts and proof... How booooring. Heresay, assumption and bias are where it's at! You'd know that if you weren't busy being ignorant...
- inactive, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2You need to be using P2P encryption then... Which, if I'm not mistaken, blackberry devices support when used with an enterprise server setup.
Anyone got the goods on that? I'd like to know for sure. - Thanehand, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2It'll be interesting to see if this has any impact in enhancing iPhone's coming introduction into the corporate world next month.
- boombye, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1what a banchot
- boardo, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1Using S/MIME with AES 256 on the blackberry enterprise server is damn rock solid. Some countries still don't allow AES though to be used, hence 1 of the reasons why 3DES is still lingering.
- arjie, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2Well, they made a fuss at first because they couldn't track RIM's Blackberrys _like they could track other phones_. That's the important part. We've been tracked all this while, it's just that we didn't know it.
However, our Indian intelligence agencies are horribly inept and there are always moles flying out to the USA with information. They're a joke, so it's hard to take them seriously. The only thing they do right is protecting those high-level politicians. The rest of the time they're busy not detecting terrorists and banning yahoo because someone made a yahoo group for terrorists or something like that.. - McShr3dd3r, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1doesn't anybody remember the NSA / AT&T secret rooms? Hello... this IS happening in the US and its not specific to RIM as a manufacturer. It's called the Patriot Act, get used to it.
http://news.cnet.com/AT38T-sued-over-NSA-spy-progr ...
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70619-0.htm ... - ihate2regist, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1um WTF?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qbs-VtKNDA - foofightrs777, on 05/23/2008, -1/+2Isn't that like a new form of a cocoon? We're gonna have some bad ass futuristic butterflies.
- justastatistic, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1I think we've had enough of this stupid meme.
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