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- andycr512, on 11/19/2007, -1/+108RIAA: "Oh, hmm... Crap, you mean we have to show actual proof? You aren't going to bend over like every other judge so far?"
- NYC83, on 11/19/2007, -1/+93The Judge on this case, Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, hasn't been afraid to challenge those in power in the past (good sign she will hold the RIAA to the lette of the law):
Wikipedia - In August 2007, in a rare move, Judge Kollar-Kotelly ordered the administration of George W. Bush to give its views regarding records requests by the ACLU on the National Security Agency's wiretapping program.
On October 1, 2007, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly reversed George W. Bush on archive secrecy, (38-page) ruling that the U.S. Archivist's reliance on the executive order to delay release of the papers of former presidents is "arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion and not in accordance with law." - ronaldinho, on 11/19/2007, -1/+82This judge is my hero
- objectcode, on 11/19/2007, -7/+75***** the RIAA
- cusoman, on 11/19/2007, -1/+53Good to see we still have judges with balls, even if they are female, in the judicial system.
- TheZorch, on 11/19/2007, -0/+47I think its about time Judges woke up and realized that the RIAA has been abusing the legal system in order to make money.
- aznhomig, on 11/19/2007, -0/+38We need more judges like this one.
- floridiot2, on 11/19/2007, -0/+31The RIAA never gave a ***** about the artists.
- ephrils1, on 11/19/2007, -1/+29All that money and compensation the RIAA want and I bet 0 dollars actually gets to their artists.
- inactive, on 11/19/2007, -1/+25and the MPAA, CRIA, NSA, ETC.
- Coopjust, on 11/19/2007, -0/+23It's completely ridiculous. They filed the lawsuits under the wrong law, can't supply evidence, and now they're trying to prevent it from being thrown out? Who was brainless enough to come up with this legal strategy?
Indeed on the bending over thing...it's stupid that this sort of abuse wasn't stopped before. - Drahkar, on 11/19/2007, -0/+19Yea. So many of them have bought into the Corporate world. Its sad. At least this one is for the people and the law,
- BoneheadFarker, on 11/19/2007, -0/+18Don't forget that she was also the judge in the Microsoft Anti-trust case. I knew that name sounded familiar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleen_Kollar-Kotell ... - Shaman760, on 11/19/2007, -0/+11I have played on a couple of releases (I'm a professional drummer) that have gone to the majors and I haven't seen one thin dime. Granted, all I am entitled to are Mechanical royalties, but have yet to see a penny.
- Primous, on 11/19/2007, -1/+9I better start doing all of my file-sharing at school now.
- KlogereEndGrim, on 11/19/2007, -3/+11But how is the judge going to make money when EVERYONE can read her verdicts!?!?!
Knowing the law is piracy and must be stopped! - Coopjust, on 11/19/2007, -0/+8No, it just means that the RIAA can't use a cable law to file a lawsuit against non-cable internet users. The only way they could have properly filed was a DCMA complaint, and they had insufficient evidence to do so, so they tried to abuse the CCPA.
So, no, cable users are not the only ones that can be sued. - jakswa, on 11/19/2007, -2/+9pwnt.
- spyrochaete, on 11/19/2007, -1/+8ETC?
AAA? YWCA? NCAA? IHOP? - objectcode, on 11/19/2007, -4/+10i look at it this way. if i couldn't download it, i probably would never hear it. if i really like bands i've heard, i probably already bought their albums
- HairyFotr, on 11/19/2007, -1/+6NAMBLA
- Makisupa, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5The motion if you are interested...
http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDF.asp?filename=aris ... - TotalHalibut, on 11/19/2007, -1/+6Especially IHOP.
- chobo2, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5Ya I was thinking that. I was also thinking that maybe his professor decided to use him as a case study. That would be kinda cool.
Professor: "Today class where going to try to figure out how to get Doe#3 out of this lawsuit this will be worth 20% of your grade so make sure you have good an compelling argument by Monday" - Vash265, on 11/19/2007, -2/+7Contrary to the signs at football games that have obviously taught you how to spell, it's defense.
And there are more defenses, just none that follow the letter of the law. For instance, the outrageous prices that the labels sell CDs at. The terms of the contracts that they sign bands to, which are unreasonable and exploitive. The need for people to recognize the significance and power of file sharing as an informational tool as well as media distributor. Unfortunately, none of those will hold up in court. But the incredibly illegal means in which the RIAA is getting access to our identities is. - cusoman, on 11/19/2007, -0/+5So it's not ok when the consumers do things illegally, but it's just FINE when big corporations do? I smell BS.
- Drahkar, on 11/19/2007, -1/+5Actually Piracy has been a driving force in the creation of new digital technologies for distributing music and has created a medium that bands can publish their music without having to sign their souls away to groups like the RIAA. While I'm sure you have completely bought into the corporate BS, the RIAA actually is losing very little with piracy because the people who pirate the music either end up buying the CD anyway (I do that all the time) or would have never bought the CD in the first place. You can't call someone who pirates a song but would never have purchased the CD a lost sale. Its a false premise. Its like trying to count food given to homeless as food lost to theft. If they never would have taken it in the first place had it not been given tot hem then you can't say it was a lost purchase. (Granted there is some room for confusion there as food is actually material. But the general point is there.) I agree artists should get paid for what they make. But I don't think the RIAA is owed anything.
- dnaspydir, on 11/19/2007, -0/+4I loved reading JD3's motion last week and thought they made some very good points. It is good to see this judge agrees.
- homer420032003, on 11/19/2007, -1/+5Doe Three is my hero
- gthrank, on 11/19/2007, -2/+6She's the same judge who ruled on the Microsoft anti-trust case.
- squeezer, on 11/19/2007, -0/+3No one would care about the RIAA cracking down on people like this if they would actually do some research on their accusations. It's just because they're sending blanket form letters saying that everyone and their mother has been breaking the law.
It shouldn't even have come to this legal ridiculousness. Any pain the RIAA suffers eventually will be from their own doing! - Sabarok, on 11/19/2007, -0/+3According to the article, it was stopped before. The problem is this doesn't stop their lawsuit, it's only about getting personal information from colleges about the students, something the RIAA has been having trouble with since day 1
- yuriko474, on 11/19/2007, -2/+5f ff fff fff ***** the RIAA damn couldn't resist it!
- PopcornDave, on 11/19/2007, -0/+3You're right. It's not like radio is a diverse medium for discovering new bands. At least not commercial US radio. I hear a much more diverse selection of music from BBC6 online and I've discovered quite a few good bands that I've never heard in the states, or there's at least a 6 month lag.
And the studios wonder why their sales are slipping? - getoffmybridge, on 05/05/2009, -0/+3Good, teach these money grubbing pricks a god damned lesson.
- Bridea, on 11/19/2007, -0/+3My Alma Mater making me proud!
- Tippis, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2...hmmm...
I see a new money-making scheme in the making here.
"Soooo, RIAA, I see here that you have 183 attourneys and 392 interns working on this case... well, this statement is my IP and I require you to pay $500 per individual who wants to obtain a copy (and if you want someone to work on the case, they *must* obtain a personal copy...) This week only, however, I'm in a good mood, and will offer a DRM-ed (courtesy of Sony's dept. of Rootkits) site-license for a mere $100k... Deal?" - tmslak, on 11/20/2007, -0/+2That's not true...I would still think they were *****, even if they WERE operating within the law. Now they're just bigger *****.
- Makisupa, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2Just so everyone realizes, this isn't a ruling on the legality of the copyright claims as it seems many people are implying. This purely a procedural issue governed by the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
- cfultz, on 11/19/2007, -1/+3RIAA sucks. this judge f'in rules!
- PopcornDave, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2Yes and no. For every 1 Judge Kollar-Kotelly, there's probably 10 more more boneheaded judges. Pick and choose your praise.
- SovereignGFC, on 11/19/2007, -1/+3fail (verb).
To not achieve a particular goal (i.e. obtaining records using fraudulent legal practices) - compu73rg33k, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2Sucks that even if they're thrown out, no legal precedent has been set. We need a case to go on trial and for defendants found not guilty for these "crimes"
- Snooper1989, on 11/19/2007, -0/+2Did you read the fine print on the contract? Usually when you do that they take all the royalties you get until it pays off for the recording session and crap like that, it's unbelievably stupid...
- Matri, on 11/20/2007, -1/+2And even if everybody on Earth bought their music, the artists still wouldn't see more than 2% of the sales money.
- kd1s, on 11/19/2007, -0/+1In the case of this judge, I say we give her an award with a set of solid 24k balls on it. Even if she doesn't have em' she can simply point to the award.
- thespiff, on 11/19/2007, -0/+1Good to see this. One of the worst things that has come of this whole anti-piracy movement by record companies is that Universities are being compelled to become the RIAA's bitch. It's unfair to University administrations and unfair to the students who are effectively the victims of profiling.
- Makisupa, on 11/19/2007, -0/+1It is a district court, it's authority is persuasive, but not precedent. Even if the appeals court were to affirm, it would only be precedent in the DC circuit, every other circuit could come up with their own theory.
- unklesam666, on 11/20/2007, -0/+1yaaaar hero!
- JoeVet, on 11/19/2007, -0/+1Make a tax-deductible contribution to the expert witness fund to provide expert testimony in support of RIAA victims. https://www.fsf.org/associate/riaa
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