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- xXShadowstormXx, on 10/11/2007, -4/+112RIAA FTL.
- Bob042, on 10/11/2007, -5/+94@knightblade2oo4
Sarcasm, what are you talking about? Those RIAA people are still out there! - knightblade2oo4, on 10/11/2007, -4/+70I don't know how they can allow vicious criminals like this to be let free.
/sarcasm - diffraction, on 10/11/2007, -2/+47Counter-sue.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+39The RIAA claims that every pirated track equals a lost sale!
Anyone with 1/2 a brain is well aware that this is total *****! - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+26We did stop buying it. Its been free for some time now.
- Typhoon2009, on 10/11/2007, -0/+25The RIAA can dangle from my nutsack. Isn't it technically possible to get out of any RIAA lawsuit because an IP address is insufficient evidence?
- halosniper7, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29***** the RIAA
- KnightMareInc, on 10/11/2007, -6/+29have they won a case yet?
- ElbridgeGerry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+27***** you, RIAA
- MarrowMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22Buddy, wake up and smell the 21st century.
- davidrools, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23you mean "a kid a kid"?
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -3/+24@fkr3
But the question on my mind is how they misrepresent the "harm" pirating inflicts on the industry, if there really is any measurable amount at all.
Regardless, not paying for the music you listen to is immoral and illegal (depending on who owns the rights to it) and I'm sure just about everyone here has downloaded songs here and there. But, for someone like me, I buy the albums from bands I like and "test drive" the music from bands I'm not sure about by downloading it for free. If I don't like it, I delete it and move on. If I like it, I go out and buy the CD (I like having the hard copy for some reason). - kypen, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21Congratulations to Tanya Anderson, although she shouldn't have had to go through this at all.
I also thought it was hilarious that, to add to the list of embarrassments for the RIAA, they had a lawsuit (their business) thrown out after suing a SINGLE MOTHER of a 9 YEAR OLD for sharing "HOES IN MY ROOM"! If they are going to make ***** up, why not make it a song she might actually ***** listen to? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Dear member labels of the RIAA:
http://www.dataspew.net/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=30668
Thank you. - ArmandoM, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15"I think it would be naive to pretend there's no measurable harm by piracy. There's no iron-clad figure,"
Not nearly as naive as it is to believe the trumped up numbers the Mafiaa would like you to believe. - tb0n3r, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Sorta. The IP address is enough, in most cases, to file a lawsuit, and begin the discovery process after the defendant has been served. They can then send in the authorities to grab all the computers in the house/business, or mirror the contents of the drives, and search the contents for the infringing files and programs used to share them, when the sharing program was accessed (if possible), etc. Stuff that could be used to build a solid case.
But that's generally not what the RIAA is doing. They get an IP address, file the suit, then send threatening letters to you, in an attempt to get you to settle out of court (if every case went to court, they'd be bankrupted within a month). When that fails, they usually forget proper discovery, or they assume that the defendant has deleted everything on the disk, and try to convince a judge/jury that the IP address is enough to find on their behalf. - TheNameless88, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Nothing like a sweet victory to smile about after a hard day of digging.
- swavalier711, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, sweet victory is ours
- spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9To quote p2pnet.net: (http://p2pnet.net/story/12254)
"RIAA is short for EMI (Britain), Vivendi Universal (France), Sony BMG (Japan and Germany) and Warner Music (US)"
75% of the RIAA is not American, nor does it care about American musicians. The RIAA is an organization of global lobbyists that grasps at the American legal system like a falling man grasps for a rope. The RIAA and its idea that music is a tangible commodity are on the brink of extinction.
The internet is here. Music is being copied. The cat is out of the bag and it will never go back in.
Embrace the inevitable and succeed or deny it and go down kicking and screaming.
Share culture with your global peers in the spirit of sharing. Create art and give it away. Write a blog and display no ads. If a corporate entity asks you to help them make money, take your fair share but don't let that get in the way of freely distributing duplicatable digital copies of your art.
Artists and musicians, It's okay to charge for CDs, performances, and T-shirts, but ones and zeroes belong to no one. - lavoie0ca, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9why cant they actually catch someone? Its not like every university doesn't have 5000 kids with 10,000 songs shared on a hub. The law is in their favour how can they possibly ***** things up?
i guess all the university kids have to cough up their savings and pay the 4000 out of court settlements they are demanding.
Thank god I'm canadian. - FlikNightshade, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Stories like this make me feel a little warm inside.
- agentSA, on 10/11/2007, -12/+20dude... thats awful
i mean i hate the riaa too, but thats too far, man - Cyberdactyl, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Yes, I've posted what is below before, but it's so true it's scary. The RIAA is it's own worst enemy in so many ways it's laughable. . .
Historically, here’s the RIAA’s FIRST and biggest mistake: Shutting down Napster’s free P2P servers.
Why? Napster WAS the Microsoft of P2P. They owned 98+% of the file sharing community throughout the USA and probably the world. The RIAA could have. . . SHOULD have . . worked with the music industry and Napster.
Napster could have been the best, single source, marketing tool for the music industry in decades. All that was needed was to require members to share simple information such as demographic, general geographic location, interests, etc. it would have provided a plethora of critical marketing information. The RIAA then should have worked to curtail only the most egregious abusers. . those selling copyrighted music, etc. NOT attacking single mothers.
Instead the RIAA took a bat to the bee hive, scattering the so-called “file sharing criminals” to the winds.
Now, instead of a single valuable source of marketing information, they now deal with several P2P apps and billions of files flung to the wind.
It is becoming stunningly clear the RIAA is killing the music industry FAR quicker than little Susie at Berkley wanting a copy of Christina Aguilera’s Candyman. - ringokamens, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Haha this is fabulous. I love watching the bad guys getting their ass kicked by normal people. And to the people at the RIAA vs The People blog, you rock. Your site is an invaluable tool in fighting oppression.
- chipset, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Dear RIAA,
We ***** hate you ***** *****. Go ***** yourself, you pussy bitch.
Sincerely yours,
People. - Fhwqhgads, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6RIAA getting ***** gets my digg!
- WoollyMittens, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Corporate lawyers... "A bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the Wall when the Revolution comes."
- WoollyMittens, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You must be one of those caring, nice people.
- DougPenn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Beat 'dem RIAA bitches down
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Exactly! And whats the deal with cats. Their like mini tigers!
- WoollyMittens, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Genesee: Try buying a CD in Europe. They'll keep your wallet, steal your shoes and drain the petrol from your tank, before you get to take it home.
- thepaul, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4There's something so special when the RIAA gets their teeth kicked in by the justice system. The problem from their end is as word begins to spread, people who receive the threatening letters will immediately download and print off the articles and contact a lawyer. With the thought of winning not only for their clients but getting the RIAA to pay for their legal fees will make this a very attractive proposition for lawyers. No longer will the 'tards and gimps as marrowman states will simply write the cheques and sign the cease and desist letters, they will get lawyers. And you all know what happens when lawyer smell blood.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2CDs cost $25!? seriously, I haven't bought one in many years - I am surprised by that number, that's way above what I'd consider paying for a new CD. what a joke - and they wonder why "CD sales are down"?
- williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2OK, just kneecap the *****.
- nikkesen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@SpeedyG
The RIAA isn't about the musicians. It's about protecting profits not intellectual property because if they were, they wouldn't target websites that bands use promote and distribute their OWN music.
And would the RIAA, if they were really protecting musicians and not profits, they would make campaign donations to politicians...
http://consumerist.com/consumer/worst-company-in-america/contact-information-for-50-politicians-who-take-campaign-money-from-the-riaa-264638.php
Sure it's dated but where does the money come from? Settlements of course! The money that they use should be going to the musicians but it goes to politicians. - xXShadowstormXx, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4@KnightMareInc (#7021503)
Yes. Unfortunately. - funknjunk, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The real reason, well imo, that piracy is as rampant as it is, is because of how overblown the prices are. Why buy a album for 15 bux with a couple good songs but the rest is filler. Make songs $.50 and a whole album $5 and I'll bite.
- yevkasem, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2stealing does not equal stop supporting. you're still supporting it when you tell your parents, non-tech friends about the latest movie you downloaded who then go out and buy it.
and i am SO SICK of hearing that she's handicapped. i'm sorry that she is, but it is so irrelevant to this story and it never needed to be mentioned. that's like saying a guy in a wheel chair shouldn't be sued if he breaks the law (i'm not saying she did, i have no clue what she does on the internet). - TheBlindGuy, on 10/11/2007, -8/+9Guns don't kill people..
Internet piracy does! - MarrowMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2sigh ....No one gives a ***** about the Artists anymore, only looking after the record labels interests. If The labels went away, then so would the RIAA, then maybe the true musicians, not the "prefab" American idol wannabe no-talents, would make their fair share. If only. I'm sure the artists don't really give a ***** if you download their albums, it's free exposure, to hell with Copyright Infringement! How do you violate it by enjoying it to yourself? The RIAA does these things to make themselves look important, they don't give a ***** if they totally make people scapegoats when they're actually innocent of the charges they're being set up with! They might as well be the Nazi party, and start pulling out Luger's and putting holes between peoples eyes.
- sabach, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"No, the lawyers are second-rate, weak pussies. They can be intimidated out of the business"
A second-rate, weak pussy lawyer can still sue the ***** out of you. How do you plan to intimidate them? Guns? Knives? Fear, surprise and a fanatical devotion to the Pope? No, you do it through the $$$. Make them fear missing their BMW payment, they can sink their teeth into that. Anything else will only put the system on their side and make you the loser. Anybody who thinks otherwise is cannon fodder for a strictly average lawyer.You've never been sued before, have you? - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1RIAA lol, if you could accuse that disabled woman of genocide, traffiking of drugs, weapons nuclear and biological, crimes against humanity and the crucifixion of Jesus Christ im pretty sure you would.
- sabach, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2The music industry hasn't produced any quality product in so long that I don't even bother to look. When I'm looking for music (and I don't use P2P) it's out-of-print works and bootlegs that I'm seeking, items that are so far off their radar (and profit margin) that they're not an issue to anyone. This is so simple folks, stop padding their lawyer's pockets and they will slowly just find another way to ***** their fellow humans.
- Mohonri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The reason it seems like that's who they're pursuing is because those are the only cases that get a lot of attention: deceased grandmothers, 12-year-old girls, single mothers on welfare, etc. make for a much more scandalous set of articles than "RIAA files copyright infringement suit against college student who actually violated copyright". And we know that scandal sells, even if it isn't an accurate representation of the bigger picture.
The fact of the matter is that a vast majority of those whom the RIAA is suing probably are guilty of copyright infringement. And those who actually are sued, if they're smart, will settle for the $4000 or whatever the RIAA asks for, because if it actually went to trial, they (the P2P user) would lose, as they should.
This doesn't mean that there aren't innocent victims getting caught in the driftnet. Of course, there are lots. And I agree that the RIAA's methods of pursuing these cases seem to show a distinct lack of due diligence. But for every big story about some innocent victim getting sued, there are probably dozens of other cases where there was no mistake. - techmaster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well written. Indie labels FTW. I used to buy a lot of CD's back when they were $10. Now that they range between $20-$25, I buy a LOT less of them.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1insane!! but we are with you, brother.
- EdSF, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Excellent commentary. It was definitely an opportunity they missed...usually what happens when knee-jerk responses are made without much thought.
- r3zonance, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2@fkr3
"That rough model seems to work with every other "want" people have - gadgets, computers, televisions, stereos, cars, books, favourite foods, magazines, newspapers, soda, chocolate, alcohol, cigarettes and a gazillion other non-essentials we like to surround ourselvse with or consume. People who want something they can't get for nothing buy it if they can afford it."
And some of those who want gadgets etc. who can't afford them, steal them. Just like what is happening with music. - williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@sabach
No, the lawyers are second-rate, weak pussies. They can be intimidated out of the business. -
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