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- shifty2, on 10/12/2007, -15/+210oh NOz!! don't close all my pipes to the internets!!
what kind of education did this lawyer get?? i guess getting a law degree from a prize from a box of cereal allows you to make these kind of statements - Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+140I'm wondering if anybody here actually READ the article, it wasn't a legal opinion of a lawyer, pretty much just rhetoric (but rhetoric on our side, so it's okay... I think...) Basicly, the RIAA said making one of files available on the internet was infringement... The -DEFECTIVE BY DESIGN- lawyer, not the RIAA lawyer, then exagerated this to say that it would require no files hosted on the internet to be legal to rally the troops (not in court, but on a website mind you). No one is being stupid except a bit too much hyperbole.
Once again, RIAA didn't say they had the power to shut down the internet, there's nothing to see here, move along. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -7/+112Sure, you all laughed when I patented sneakernet.™ Who's going to have the last laugh now?
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+75This couldn't possibly be more inaccurate. This was NOT an RIAA lawyer saying this, it was the DEFENSE lawyer, and he said it in an attempt to point out the absurditity of the RIAA's contention that "merely making files available on the Internet Barker was making a copyright infringement".
For those with low reading comprehension, such as the submitter, allow me to summerize the entire article into two sentances of dialog:
RIAA lawyer: "merely making files available on the Internet Barker was making a copyright infringement"
Defense lawyer: "if [that argument] were accepted by the court it would probably shut down the entire Internet. If you send any file on the Net the RIAA will be allowed to suspect that you are in breach of copyright."
The very first sentance of the article even makes this clear:
"ONE of the lawyers involved in DEFENDING cases bought against people by the RIAA claims that if the music industry wins a crucial case, the Internet will have to be switched off."
Of course, it's the Inquirer's own, sensationalistic headline that mislead you all to begin with. - jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -10/+86I pirate music just to piss of the RIAA now. They make me want to steal.
good job you cockgobblers - TriZz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+79"All your tubes are belong to us"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+80... does he think there is a big shiny button at "The Internet company of the Internet tubes" that has the power to do such thing?
- nx01, on 10/12/2007, -9/+74They just won't put any gas in the truck! Oh wait, you mean the Internet's NOT a truck?
- omgitscolin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+61I think it's the other way around... the Internet will one day be the end of the RIAA, and good riddance!
- dankoleary, on 10/12/2007, -21/+79True sir. Since Premiere George Walter Bush said we have "internets" , there is nothing to worry about.
- kz26, on 10/12/2007, -8/+64*****. THE. RIAA.
- pcgeek101, on 10/12/2007, -2/+56dugg your comment up, but once again ... it is NOT stealing. It's copyright infringement. By downloading music, you aren't physically taking away an item that they no longer have, you're simply getting a copy of it. Call me picky, but the two concepts are VERY different.
- slomotion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+46Whatever you do, don't show them this website!
http://turnofftheinternet.com/ - Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -11/+51Well it looks like Ted Stevens just hired a new lawyer...
- Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+40But the internet is for porn!
- DeadWisdom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34Did you guys even read the article? The RIAA is saying that making files available on the internet was akin to copyright infringement, no matter what the files were. And the defense attorney was saying that you'd have to shut down the entire internet if that was the case. You see he's arguing against premise by extrapolating an improbable claim with it as the basis...
Edit: Ah, thanks merreborn. You beat me to it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Thanks a lot Lars Ulrich, now look at what all your bitching did.
Happy now? - flipmeat, on 10/12/2007, -10/+41Somebody please interview this guy and get his detailed shutdown plan. I have got to see this.
- Renton, on 10/12/2007, -19/+50What do you expect? They're basicly owned by Sony.
- Shawnosaurus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+35I for one welcome our new RIAA ove- whoa, what am I saying?! No I don't. ***** the RIAA!
- bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Oh yeah. An American lawsuit would shut down the entire World's information backbone.
Actually maybe I should rethink that. The way some of this stuff goes it might even happen... - Gryph1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Are you guys stupid or something? RTFA! He's a lawyer against the RIAA! DEFENDING THE PEOPLE GETTING SUED.
He's stating that if the RIAA wins the case(which the circumstances are explained in the article) the RIAA can suspect and sue anyone sending ANY file of pirating if they win.
Therefore that was his quotation on the shutdown of the internet. - Phaedruss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21But aren't submissions more exciting when the summary completely contradicts the title?
- 0siris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Enquirer is not Inquirer...
I hate it every time someone posts an article from this legitimate news organization, someone makes fun of it for having a phonetically similar name to a tabloid. - coreyb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14@drakethegreat
I assume you are referring to the RIAA, since they are the only ones I have personally seen eat babies... - elitexero, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23Oh, 'The Enquirer', cause you know that's where I go when I want the truth.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12People stopped buying CDs already, where have you been?
- drakethegreat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Rich Pompous cockgobblers who eat babies, ***** on people's wives, steal from the poor, fight for the guilty, and break blind peoples' legs... Was that too much?
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Lars who?
Oh... he was in that band a while ago right? Yeah I remember... they made a fuss about all this, so I burned all their CDs and forgot they existed. - Black913Hole, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12are you thinking of The National Inquirer maybe? though ive heard this enquirer is also somewhat erroneous sometimes.
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Seems more like a reason to keep it open
- JaybeasCorpus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10To be fair, the guy making the statement is one of the lawyers DEFENDING AGAINST the RIAA. Now, I wouldn't put it past the RIAA to believe something like this, but the title is more than a little misleading. This is simply a defense lawyer drawing conclusions from filings by the RIAA to make their claims lead to a ridiculous conclusion.
EDIT: Hmm, Valarauka barely beat me to the punch. - zephc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12scenario: No more internet access in the US.
result: Rest of the world still has net access, US becomes a 3rd world country.
Maybe I should brush up on my boot-blacking skills. - LR2_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9@pcgeek101
Wow, I really never thought about it that way. I hate watching those commercials that they put before DVDs that I purchased. You know, the ones that show someone stealing a DVD from a store or buying one off of the street. Stop brainwashing people RIAA/MPAA! - Valarauka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Way to write an inflammatory title, dude. (that goes for the Inq, too...)
The RIAA didn't say anything of the sort; even they're not that stupid. This is just one lawyer sensationalizing things, by claiming that the RIAA position "would probably shut down entire Internet" - because they'd be allowed to suspect anyone sharing a file of copyright infringement.
Buried innacurate. - emjaymj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8READING COMPREHENSION PEOPLE. This was a lawyer DEFENDING people against the RIAA.
- Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The RIAA never said they had this power, the DefectiveByDesign campaign's lawyer is exagerating a bit to make a point.... Marked as inaccurate.
- webbsk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Somebody please interview this guy and get his detailed shutdown plan. I have got to see this."
Okay, I usually hate people who say to RTFA, but... RTFA! There is no he, no she, no it. No one from the RIAA actually said _anything_ like this. - SkyWalk423, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8So many retards in this thread.... DID ANY OF YOU READ THE STORY?? A lawyer defending AGAINST lawsuits brought by the RIAA made this claim! CONTEXT IS PRETTY IMPORTANT HERE!!! Sheep!
Buried Inaccurate. - Zuggy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@pcgeek
For those that don't know the difference, stealing is taking a physical something that someone has paid for. Copyright Inferingement is killing a potential sale by getting a copy of a something for sale, such as a book, song or software. - oxyrubber, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The interesting thing is that this lawyer (although he's embellishing) is not terribly far from some truth.
The DCMA allows anyone claiming to own rights to content to request that (1) the host remove the content and if nothing happens (2) ISP of the host remove the content. The fear of litigation scares ISPs into suspending accounts long before they will support their client in a legal case. Even legitimate "fair use" content is shut down quickly by ISPs for fear that they will lose money in legal cases.
The RIAA could claim they own rights to almost all of the internet and effectively shut down MANY resources in the same way. The key to this case is that the RIAA did not actually go and cite the discrete evidence of copyright infringement. This is not how our legal system works and this shoudl be the focus of any article on the case. - Tiak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Okay, so quick question, pointing out that the title of the article is blanantly wrong, and noting that a story has been blindly dugg and commented on enough to make it to the front page, is BAD, while blindly commenting on the story without reading it in the classic "OMFG! THE RIAA IS TEH EVILZ" is good?
- mastershake1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9The RIAA and MPAA want a technical veto on any technology that has the "potential" to enable piracy. They've argued over and over again for draconian content filtering mechanisms. Can you imagine the cost (both financially, and in terms of resources like increased energy usage) if ISPs were forced to filter every packet to ensure that it doesn't contain anything illegal?
Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are in the industry's pocket, and the only thing standing in the way of this ridiculousness is the judiciary. The courts are becoming increasingly pro-copyright cartel so that's probably not going to last for long. If the "Betamax" case is overturned, Beckerman is right - the RIAA would be able to effectively switch off the Internets for MOST users. And of course the people who really wanted to pirate stuff will just move to encrypted VPNs, Darknets, etc. It's a cat and mouse game that ends up hurting the average consumer. - phr0ze, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Some of you have misread what is said above. This is simply one lawyer over exaggerating the consequences of giving the RIAA what it wants. It is not a statement by the RIAA.
I hate the RIAA, but this story is really not news, it's just written in such a way to make it appear to be news. Inaccurate. - DoubtingThomas, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Yay for mandatory the "It's Bush's fault" comment. Do you have any proof this? Do you even know what you are talking about? Why do you even reply when you have absolutely nothing at all constructive to contribute to the thread?
Christ, we all know Bush is failed president. However (much to the chagrin of many uneducated/lazy/mob-mentailty diggers) he is not root of every goddammned problem that gets posted here. - mb96net, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I don't know why you were dugg down Jaybeas, you were exactly right. People should RTFA first before posting. Although flaming the RIAA is fun, it's not warranted from this article.
- TriTech, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9If everyone just stopped buying CDs for a couple of months the music industry would have to make some changes.
- TheJas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As much as lots of poeple on digg is great, times like this you miss the good ole days. Buried Inaccurate.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I gotta say, The Enquirer doesn't seem all that credible with their lack of basic proofreading.
- Naga10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I would pirate more, but I actually try to support artists. Even if teh RIAA steals from them, they still get at least a portion of it. That's better than nothing.
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