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- drollia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+34Maybe if they made music affordable then people won't have a need to pirate it.
- Nameless1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+25Maybe if the music was worth buying, ppl would buy it?
Remember the sony rootkit fiasco? cause I still do :) - Intrepion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Maybe if they realized that no one wants CDs any more
1940's - vinyl records
1960's - 8 track cartridge
1970's - cassette tape
1980's - compact disc
2000's - uh.. still compact discs? - SlechtValk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Don't forget musicians' opinion: http://digg.com/music/_Fans_who_share_music_aren_t_thieves_ .
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Well, iTunes is pretty affordable, but we all know that the RIAA wants to raise the prices there... I wouldn't doubt the RIAA and MPAA would extort us the same way the gas companies do if they could.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9My school told them that they will under no terms what so ever let a outside entity monitor our network for anything. Their excuse was private data could be accessed by a outside party to easily if they were to allow this.
- renpatel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8you ever notice how the good bands really never complained
it's always the sorry ass ones that try to squeeze every cent they can for some dope - ajwillys, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7This might be something that only happened in my dorky computer science department but we would just share hard drives. We all had externals for our music, movies, etc... and we would just get together and copy away.
In about an hour, I'd add 2000-3000 songs to my library. - shadedream, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"bull *****. its their product they should be able to price it however they want. I pirate stuff because i'm too lazy to pay, not because I have some higher ideal (ie. fair pricing) . But atleast I'm willing to admit it."
Yes, they do have the ability to price it how they want. But with that also comes pricing it to actually sell. Who would buy CDs if they cost $100 each? Yeah thats extreme but companies have to balance selling it for as much as they can, and pricing it so it will actually sell.
What's going on right now if you ask me is that they are pricing them above what people are willing to pay (given the quality of most music lately) and blaming piracy for the decline in sales, when really the decline is their failure to understand (or accept) that people just arent willing to pay what they want for the crap they put out these days. They will continue to blame and sue anyone they can to try and get their way with consumers. - djdole, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's not the RIAA/MPAA's place to tackle campus LAN piracy. It's the campus's job & responsibility to inform and educate the students and to reprimand/punish any illegal activities.
The RIAA stepped out of line with Michigan Technological University when they filed lawsuits without working with the school first (as they had agreed to do).
(Article: http://www.admin.mtu.edu/alumni/alumnusmag/03aug/fileshare.html )
That all resulted in probably the BEST letter from the university president (at the time) Curt Tompkins I've EVER (Article: http://www.admin.mtu.edu/urel/news/media_relations/95/ )
The general consensus: "***** off RIAA".
(Pretty funny how in spell check you 'Ignore' "RIAA".) - tarball, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Even if they managed to stamp out P2P on university LANs, sneakernet is quite effective these days when you can circulate a couple of 200GB external USB drives between friends, Allegedly :-)
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Unfortunatly, that only applies to Canadian artists... as far as we know... I'd like to see a similar letter from American artists.
As much as I loved S&M, let's not forget that it was Metallica, a band, that started the fire. - bloqmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It refers to those networks as the ones that replaced Napster, ie: in the past.
- neuros, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Mmmm, thanks campus network and DC++!
- Hubris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I wouldn't say the RIAA can't do 'anything....just wait until the proposed amendments to the DMCA are passed and the penalties drastically increase, and computer wiretaps can be implemented without requiring a court order. Computer wiretaps on a campus network = logging and packet sniffers being installed internally. They're just waiting for the next batch of tools they 'paid for' to be made available before they start using them.
- iceanfire, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11bull *****. its their product they should be able to price it however they want. I pirate stuff because i'm too lazy to pay, not because I have some higher ideal (ie. fair pricing) . But atleast I'm willing to admit it.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Ironically, I'm pretty sure posts stating dupes, are actually the most duped dupes.
- Acill, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Watch out giving out our sneakernet sources! The RIAA/MPAA may start to sue those of us that buy new shoes. Before long all of us will have to check our shoes in at the office before going to class.
This has got so out of hand. How long before we get some justice here against these pricks?! - tmcleroy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4why don't the **AAs just roll over and die
- ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Another 'problem' the RIAA are attempting to tackle. When will they go and tackle the serious problem of an oncoming train?
- ArchonSG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because people keep buying crappy CD compilations which for the most part doesn't have more one or two good songs padded with fluff.
Why alllow you pay for that single song when they can charge you for a pile of crap? So as long as people keep buying off record labels, they are bank rolling these bastards and they'll just keep laughing at us and screw us deeper in the arse. - Niffer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't know about your campus, but after awhile, the selection on our campus DC++ network got a little stale. Sure, it was fun to download ***** music and terrible movies at blazing speed for awhile, but nothing ever got added to the loop. It only took about a year before everyone stopped logging on.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2yeh, our campus has a ton of music, movies, etc. Iso's, Xvids, Avis..
we have a ton of TB's shared and all new releases are posted within the hour of their release. - ByteGuerilla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There's already a massive amount of Sony boycotting going on because of their shady business practices. Associating with the RIAA won't make much of a difference. In fact at this point they could probably roll out swastika-emblazened carpets from the windows of their corporate offices and the hoo-haa wouldn't be much.
- RogueX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2BitTorrent + DC++ eliminates that problem
- llbbl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Don't buy the PS3 if you do you will SUPPORT the RIAA. It would be awesome if there was a nationwide protest on Sony products.
- jpfinch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Um, they've been doing this for at least three years at my school.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In other news, the RIAA and MPAA jointly announce that they now plan to crack down on file-sharing within home networks.
Because they have no access to in-home networks, it is a virtual impossibility for them to monitor copyright infringement activity therein.
In response, they recently sent over 50 million letters to heads-of-household in up to 50 states:
"We are appreciative of our partners in the private residence community and all they have done in recent years to tackle the problem of digital piracy at homes across the country," said RIAA President Cary Sherman. "Despite the progress achieved by our collaborative efforts, this remains an ever-evolving problem. We cannot ignore the growing misuse of in-home LAN systems or the toll this means of theft is taking on our industry. As we prioritize our focus on household LAN piracy in the coming year, we hope parents will take this opportunity to encourage their eight-year-old children to fully evaluate their systems and take action to stop theft by all means, including but not necessarily limited to timeouts and spankings. We encourage family members to report all instances of unauthorized copying."
The letters went on to recommend that parents ask their children to install blocking and filtering software such as RedLambda's cGrid and Audible Magic's CopySense. However, in the past, individuals have been reluctant to abide by the entertainment industry's bidding and have only succumbed under the threat of legal action or when their own bandwidth interests are at stake.
Anonymous sources at the RIAA suggest that the association will be seeking to purchase legislation to legally require households to supply the RIAA with the means to monitor all internal network traffic, including not only ethernet, but traffic to and from USB, firewire, parallel, and serial port devices, as well as CD/DVD hard drive activity.
(This post qualifies as fair use under the parody rule, at least for the limited time during which US courts will continue to respect even their extremely limited interpretation of the fair use doctrine) - shatters, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@Intrepion
I'd say that they realize. The 2000's are about mp3s, mp3 players, etc. along with online media sites such as iTunes. This was never as big of an issue before p2p and the ability to burn mp3s from music CDs. - astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Exactly, I could have not said it better! They wonder why some whiny teen's album didn't sell, and then find out its crap, and then blame it on piracy.
TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!
The RIAA is trying to Admin college networks.... know I know they are really on drugs! - mruocky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I live on the campus of the University of Maryland and the university sent out a mass email pertaining to this issue. I doubt it will deter anyone though...
- b0b0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just use SSH/SCP.
- Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ahh yes but now that the moronic RIAA have opened the eyes of all those who have never graced their presence on the LAN and the cycle will begin again.
The RIAA is so dumb! - MattH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Easy way around this http://waste.sourceforge.net/
- GhostFace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here in my question. I was in Afghanistan for 6 months. We had a share drive with 47,000 songs and about 300 movies that I could hook up my ext hard drive and got what I wanted. So now that I am back with about 15,000 songs and about 20 movies, they must go after uncle sam now. This is the norm for all of the bases in the AOR.
- snipes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My campus' DC++.
Is beautiful.
Episode of eveything, a helluvalotta music and movies.
Even a couple handfulls of Xbox ISOs. - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's always been sharing on campus and there always will be.
Just now you can share with more people and not Loan out your favorite CD only to have it
scratched loss or never returned or spend those hour after hour trying to make a mix tape.
I've told many of my friends its bad to share using the schools network.
A resource like that should be restricted to school work and research.
That's why you should setup your own wireless 802.11g mesh network for file sharing. Higher speeds and no filtering and it keeps you from being bugged by the Schools IT staff. Share and Share alike. :) - CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Reported as inaccurate. Unauthorized sharing of copyrighted files does not equal piracy. Piracy is defined in the United States Penal Code as taking a ship from the control of its lawful owner.
- jspsh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1RIAA is going too overboard. What's next? Are they going to try to admin your home network to prevent pirating between your OWN computers?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1already do that.. works good enough for me.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Artists make most of their money off live shows.. so why don't they make the music free to spread their name, then actually work for once doing live shows. Sounds like a job to me.. they shouldn't get to sit back once they crap out a CD get filthy rich.
- Nacelle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't buy a CD unless I can get it on sale for $10 or $11. If they would sell them at that price point, I would buy more. When I'm at the store and I see one I want. If it's $14.99 like most are, I put it back. I'd prefer to have the CD over a download. I like having the case and the cover that comes with it. I'm just tired of being riped off.
- Niffer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Cerebral
Good point! Let's hope things start to freshen up around here! - 15charmaxwtf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Bollocks!
- Yorn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Fastrack and Gnutella? Talk about a dated article! Digg+ anyways, it's a decent read and factually accurate, plus I know students who do this (or did).
- Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Thank you... I think that the PS3 has gotten people to forget all about the rootkit fiasco.
- protogenxl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ALL HAIL THE OPTIMUS PRIME SERVER!!!!!
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I want my music to be transferrable from folder to folder and device to device as well as hardlinks made to them. I want to be able to play them in a variety of playback rendering programs. The in-player music views are even more kludgy than folders with hardlinks and aren't exchangable from player to player.
Music without those properties is unusable. - thecas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't see how waste can help here. Waste is a decentralized network, but using that in a LAN setup it looses most it's value. The encryption part is helping if the RIAA would sniff the network on the campus, but I think they just going to check every PC on the campus instead of trying to find find the victims one by one.
The poor students could encrypt their shares so if the RIAA kicks in the door they just quickly shut down their computer ;) - agarc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3If I were posting a story to Digg, I would at least search and make sure that the story had not yet been posted. Too bad this same story was on here yesterday! Submitters are getting really bad with this lately (at least it seems that way).
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