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- Owwmykneecap, on 08/30/2008, -7/+45250 is a gigantic amount.
Im on 20 a month - whataboutdave, on 08/30/2008, -2/+34"It's not like we have a choice in Seattle, it's either Comcast, Qwest, or Verizon."
Sounds to me like you have at least three choices... - sandaboy, on 08/30/2008, -6/+34Huge cap, but still a cap.
- Kamacurus, on 08/30/2008, -4/+31250g is a lot but its just the first step towards making it 2g.
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -4/+30I've had Qwest DSL for the last 3 years and they've been nothing short of reliable. They were also the only telecom with the balls to stand up to the NSA when it came to spying on Americans phone records.
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It's not like we have a choice in Seattle, it's either Comcast, Qwest, or Verizon. - K4emic, on 08/30/2008, -0/+23It's all about the asterisk after the "Unlimited internetz!!!111".
- funkyloki, on 08/30/2008, -2/+21Whether you pirate or not is irrelevant. As the ISPs add more subscribers to an all ready overloaded system, we will all experience a bandwidth issue, and what is to say they won't lower the cap arbitrarily. If you watch lots of YouTube, stream movies through Netflix, or do any kind of remote system storage (all specified in TFA, which, if any of you idiots above who are talking about this being a pritae problem only, would have caught had you read it), you're *****, and those are all legal uses of the Internets.
These companies were subsidized billions of dollars, and customers paid a lot of money to them, so that they could build a top-of-the-line infrastructure. Instead of innovating and improving their systems, they push throttling on us and establish bandwidth caps, and spent the billions of dollars elsewhere. Meanwhile, are broadband infrastructure trails many other developed nations in speed, cost, reliability, etc. That is not acceptable. They need to make more bandwidth available, not limit an all ready pushed to the max system. Of course that would affect profits in the short term, and no way the giant communication conglomerates are having any of that. - quomen, on 08/30/2008, -4/+23*****. Why don't they just make us pay for transfer speeds, not limit our ***** bandwidth. ISPs are lazy as hell to upgrade their infrastructure.
- smotpoker, on 08/30/2008, -2/+20You mean this cap doesn't apply to streaming audio and streaming video, too? Awesome!
- zelkuta, on 08/30/2008, -10/+28Well, the internet was good while it lasted.
gg - funkyloki, on 08/30/2008, -0/+15Caps are still gonna affect you, as you would still have to download the item in question, whether from newsgroup or torrent, n00b.
- 9bpm9, on 08/30/2008, -7/+21I still can't comprehend how people are only mad about this cap just because it's a cap. If they had a cap of 100 TB, people would still be bitching, because it's just a cap.
- vinnyvenus, on 08/30/2008, -3/+17If they are informing people about caps and not advertising their internet service as unlimited, then I don't have a problem with caps.
- Anteros, on 08/30/2008, -1/+15Typical youtube videos are around 20mb, you would have to watch 12500 a month or 400 a day to reach the 250gb cap
- squirrelza, on 08/30/2008, -2/+14I'm from South Africa and a 3gb cap (for the month) is common. Facebook alone can use 200mb a day.
- Tainek, on 08/30/2008, -3/+15250 is at least reasonable, I'm on 50G/30 day cycle and its crippling.
- sadisticmind, on 08/30/2008, -0/+10omg
i know im gonna get terminated, i go thru 3GB for breakfast. seriously - Stalks, on 08/30/2008, -0/+10This has nothing to do with torrents. and besides, with uuencoding of the nntp prototcol you're adding 25% extra bloat to your downloads, meaning the 250GB cap will get you even less.
- Neticule, on 08/30/2008, -1/+10I have qwest too, I called tech support actually a few weeks ago, talked to a very nice guy, and asked him about bandwidth caps, and told him about how comcast is doing this to people, he said it was ridiculous and he has never heard of qwest doing this. I told him I download a LOT, and he assured me I would never be kicked off for downloading too much. We had a small conversation about how horrible that must be for business...
- ErickStevenson, on 08/30/2008, -0/+9Depending in where you live, some of us have no other choice in ISP
- NegativeDigg, on 08/30/2008, -4/+12I should be able to download and upload all day and all night if that's what i paid for!
- ralphthemagi, on 08/30/2008, -1/+9Sure, 250GB is a lot for a single user, but if you have multiple users behind a router it starts to seem like not so much anymore.
And the real problem is that it's 250GB today, and 25GB tomorrow. File sizes are increasing, and ISPs are now starting to clamp down and install arbitrary bandwidth caps so that they can discourage users from downloading in order to make more money off aging infrastructure.
HD movies now weigh in at 4GB+. You can now download entire games instead of buying them at a store. Fully 3D MMORPGs can not be streamed right to the client. The major TV networks are now actually starting to stream 1500Kbps 480p video, and real HD is on the way.
Look what happened in the 3G mobile market in just a year's time. We went from 4 providers offering unlimited 3G internet access, to 3 providers who now ONLY offer plans with 5GB caps, and 1 provider that offers a plan with a 5GB cap + $256/GB overage (Verizon). A year ago I could have downloaded 40GB in a month for $59.99. Today that same ability would cost me a whopping $9,000+.
The future of the Internet in the US is going to be one where we end up paying what are essentially per-minute fees to use the Internet. Want to watch that 4GB movie? Oh, I'm sorry... you are over your monthly limit. That movie is now going to cost you an extra $6 in overage fees to watch. No thanks. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -2/+10Yeah... You could watch YouTube 24/7 and you still wouldn't get to 250gig. You would get to about 100gig if you streamed YouTube videos around the clock non stop for an entire month.
- schnikies79, on 08/30/2008, -1/+9Sounds like you have a decent amount of choices.
I have a choice. Verizon DSL. That's it. - ousthouse, on 08/30/2008, -1/+9I understand the whole 'slippery slope' argument... but geez, 250gb is like a buffet restaurant limiting customers to 50 pounds of food per sitting.
- SLockhart, on 08/30/2008, -3/+11250 is extremely generous. I live on 60 a month and I download a lot of stuff.
- addakorn, on 08/30/2008, -2/+9Streaming HD video, excessive VoIP usage, transferring data files to/from work, using an online data backup solution, or even just having heavy data usage.
I have no idea what I use at home, but on my phone I nearly hit 3GB a month. - forcedfx, on 08/30/2008, -0/+7My choices are Verizon or Comcrap. So, you're doing better than me.
- Wootstapler, on 08/30/2008, -1/+8*You're an idiot.*
Sorry. - audomatix, on 08/30/2008, -5/+12Your an idiot.
- tobikow, on 08/30/2008, -0/+6Here in New Mexico its pretty much either Qwest, or Qwest. torrents run okay, but my ping in almost any game is pretty much *****. If i break the 250 cap, ill print out the page I'm redirected to, frame it, and put it on my wall.
- xL0Sx, on 08/30/2008, -3/+9But what if you are? I think that gives you the right to complain right?
- Tainek, on 08/30/2008, -0/+61Gigabyte is 8 Gigabits,
Epic Fail - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -1/+7In other words, update your damn network Comcast! (and Quest)
- etruscan, on 08/30/2008, -0/+6I was going to echo your statement. I'm not sure what the limit for Comcast or Qwest was before (or even if there was one) but 250GB is a whole lot. I've got a 100GB limit with Rogers, and while I often run close, I don't run over 100GB per month. I download quite a bit too.
- sfacets, on 08/30/2008, -4/+10Why are all you Americans whining? Look at the rest of the world (ok probably not Japan or the UK) and you will see that bandwidth caps have been around for yonks, and they are almost always far far below 250.
I come from Australia, there are choices, none of them good, because they are all using the same infrastructure which is like 200 years old, owned by a greedy idiot called the Telstra corporation.
With line rental (phone line) I was paying about 200/month for 60 Gbs of pretty damn slow internet.
Stop carrying on. - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -2/+7Generous? You act like the Internet only belong to the telcos and cable companies? Wow, you must have forgotten that the two business used to never want to have anything to do with modem connections or the Internet.
- MacHarborGuy, on 08/30/2008, -0/+5gaming does not take up as much bandwidth as one would think. SecondLife would be the only game that I can see having an issue since that is the only game I know of where all of the data is streamed to you. Almost everything else is via a one-time patch and then it is just low amounts of data for gameplay communications and such.
- sadisticmind, on 08/30/2008, -0/+5not if it was a 100 yottabyte
- NegativeDigg, on 08/30/2008, -3/+8It's a high cap but the problem is that other companies are going to want to cap their service too.
Also, people with home networks are going to suffer the most. Streaming netflix movies? forget about it! - treas, on 08/30/2008, -0/+5the internet was never good
- mcgirt, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4You guys know that in Japan you get 6mbps on your cell phone? The US has pretty sorry Internet service when compared to other countries. Comcast is a joke. It should be a lot cheaper for a lot more speed in 2008 in the country that invented the Internet.
- rolan1bp, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4To some extend, I'm with you. Transparency doesn't piss me off. However, if I for some reason do reach that limit and get reprimanded for it, I will be switching. Not because I'm angry for being chastised, but because if I for some reason reach that limit I know that Comcast is not the right provider for me.
- Tenlow, on 08/30/2008, -1/+5You're.
- etruscan, on 08/30/2008, -1/+5This is why physical media isn't going away any time soon.
- Ipexx, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4what about all the gamer.
- JakeW, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4I'm in GA. I use Bellsouth
- IndigoMoss, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4Yeah I'm sure that all of us who'd go over that download non-stop torrents /sarcasm. Currently I'm running a Slingbox that gets used rather frequently by my sister who's in college in Illinois. I also have over 40 games on my Steam account, with 2 more coming next week (Stalker Clear Sky and Ghost Recon AWF2), not to mention I just downloaded the Warhammer beta, a few huge patches, and have watch countless Youtube vidoes, 2 seasons of South Park on Southparkstudios.com, and every It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode on Hulu.
I'm pretty sure I'd be nearing that cap, if not exceeding that cap. What it's doing is slowing down the developement of digital media over the web, i.e Hulu, iTunes, Steam, and Slingbox type devices. It's a bad practice altogether and I'm very glad that Brighthouse networks here in Tampa understand this. Then again, they probably understand this because they have to compete with Verizon Fios. - diggdiggerid, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4I can't imagine how anyone can download anywhere near that amount per month. Seriously, you can download a new video game (~3GB), an HD video (~4GB) and a gigabyte of youtube movies, forums, whatever else every ***** day and not reach that limit. I can't even find that much music and movies WORTH downloading, much less actually do it.
- audomatix, on 08/30/2008, -5/+9I'm sorry it's bullsh*t, regardless of whether a person can use that much or not they advertise as unlimited. Comcast has a crooked way of doing business and always has. Just do a search.
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