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- ThinkBox, on 10/11/2007, -17/+292i think i speak for all of us when I say
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***** the MPAA 4 life - GnuTzu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+228Things they've tried and are trying to stick us with:
1) Always requiring the original media (no copying allowed)
2) Licensing the transfer of CSS key to blank media
3) Requiring blank media to be pre-encoded with CSS key
(where encoded blank media would probably cost more)
Keep in mind that this kind of thing isn't about high-volume pirates selling loads of counterfeit copies around the world.
This is about micro managing the way these things are used. How much are we willing to have our viewing habits regulated by these corporate monsters.
Personally, I'm disgusted with the way DVD technology is used to prevent fast forwarding during commercials. Of course, they'd argue that such commercials ultimately keep the prices down. But, we all know how greedy these people are and that they're more than willing to take full advantage of their control over the market place.
With the history of movie formats (back to Beta vs. VHS), we know very well that whatever standard is adopted (as characterized by the recent Blockbuster decision) that standard will enjoy monopolistic power over the market place. As such, this isn't a situation where the creators of these formats can cry that this is a free market issue--since markets aren't free where monopolies rule. Therefore, these people can't be allowed to make up any rules they want, and the must not be allowed to create rules that regulate individual behavior. We can't allow fair-use laws to be destroyed by these beasts.
We should closely watch how the FTC handles this--as this will characterize the current balance of influence in the government between consumers and corporations. If this is handled badly, then we can expect that things like Net Neutrality will also be handled badly. - poedguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+72Did anyone here actually read the article? They're doing it just to send a company out of business. This move would outlaw all virtual drive software as well as being able to run the VOB files from a hard disk.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+71***** THE MPAA/RIAA
- JimDinger, on 10/11/2007, -8/+54I would digg some comments up on this ,but I hate the way my browser "hangs" when I do,bury away!
- PureHeretic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+45what a bunch of money hungry douchebags!
IM AN ARTIST!? i record music for bands, i dont give two ***** if the music i record gets stolen, as long as people listen to it, and the same with movies! - Elohir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+42Pirates (yarrr) have nothing to fear. Things like this always seem to only really hurt the people who legitimately pay for the things.
- titlesaysitall, on 10/11/2007, -1/+37This amendment is madness, simply madness and don't lay on your "This is Sparta" BS, I'm being serious, our rights are being stripped away from us because of idiots who do not understand how technology works.
- rejoined, on 10/11/2007, -1/+36They better gotta be kidding me!! I mean this is getting ridiculous now with more jackass DRM laws coming on the horizon. They might as well start choking consumer's throats, and call it CRCM (Consumer Rights Choking Management).
- Rizin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+32You sir have won a cookie
- Cherubim, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28This is really funny. How in gods name are they going to police this ? If they think for one minute they can take away the fair rights of a consumer who has paid for a DVD then they can get stuffed. I will continue to make as many copies and backups of my DVDs as I like. I'm not going to be shafted by greedy corporate pigs whose only motivation is to screw the consumer.
To the RIAA/MPAA/SONY/Congress and other greedy ***** .... up yours and may you drown in *****!
- Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -4/+27So I guess that I can take back this scratched-to-***** copy of The Matrix to HMV then for a new copy. Why not just put a ***** expiry date on the films ass ***** people if they don't repurchase it on that date? Don't you have enough money yet? And those poor starving artists we hear about....why won't one film pay for an entire lifetimes wealth?
- lashrac606, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21I'm not renting your DVD - I bought it. If I want to have a backup copy of my own DVD, then I'll have one. How dare they tell me what I can and can't do with my own property. I understand that ripping it for others is illegal - but in the confines of my own home, what I do with my property is my business - and it harms no one.
- carl25, on 10/11/2007, -5/+24i download entire dvd backups anyways, so i don't think i would have a problem
- goodoldharris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19I totally agree about the fast forwarding. There is something really infuriating about being forced to watch a commercial even after you've bought and paid for something. I don't buy DVDs for that very reason.
Anyway, I hope the law goes through. It will just speed up the grave-digging for the current business model for the big production companies. It will piss off tons of consumers who will spend their entertainment dollar elsewhere. Independent producers and smaller companies offering better value with more reasonable usage rights will benefit. - Joxterthemighty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18Wouldn't this make watching a DVD illegal also because you are making a copy of the DVD to your brain?
- Dested, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20It seems that that thing gets bigger every time someone posts it...
- Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23Good God this new interface doesn't spur any conversation at all. Digg is starting to suck!
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15Ahhh, another law to disregard.
- toasty168, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Some more *****. ***** idiots in power never ***** learn. Criminalizing something doesn't stop people from doing it. If the goal is to stop people from copying DVDs this is the wrong way to go. You're only gonna be creating more problems by criminalizing.
- gemadouble, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13The same goes for me. I make music and don't really care if people pirate it, I even put it up on a warez site to promote it.
For the money... I organise DIY shows and sell cds/merch. Its all easy if you are not money hungry. - TrentTheThief, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13LOL.
And in other news, Congress is poised to vote on legislation that would cause the sun to rise from the west and allow pigs to fly. This long awaited legislation is roundly supported by the executive branch, the president saying earlier, "This bill is good. Many people have always wanted to view the sunset from the eastern exposure of their homes." The Vice-President was unavailable for comment, there being a secret meeting of the cannibal society in progress.
So, which bunch of technical whiz-bang kids told them they could have a redo of time and space? Poor sods. - amrush4th, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Cool, another law I might be able to break. Good times.
- Tracon, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15Even if this passes it doesnt matter we are already ahead of them by miles.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15like this will stop us
- JzLosman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11and lets not forget how many people exist in this country that aren't tech-savvy that do not burn or pirate --> Lets take a look at how much money Fantastic Four:Rise of the Silver Surfer made in just 3 days - $57 Million. And if it is anything like the original F4 than DVD sales won't be a problem, even with us scurvy pirates running around. The original sold 2.4 Million copies on Release Day. That's about $45 million dollars in ONE DAY!!!! More than $100 Million Dollars over 4 days, boo hoo they are so poor. They are not loosing any kind of substantial earnings because of pirating, so give it up!
- rebrad, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Sounds like there will be another huge payoff to the hollywood operatives in the House and Senate (the most ethical congress ever). Let's all join together for another payday celebration of democracy.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Oh no! They understand completely how technology works and are using this simply as a way for their buddies in the MPAA to make even more money than the RIAA does by suing as many people as possible!
While they're at it, shouldn't they just attempt to ban DVD Burners??? After all, without burners the world would be a better place, there would be no hunger, wars or republicans, and everybody would live in peace and harmony for the rest of eternity!! - nikkesen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10You've made me nostalgic for VHS. Ah, the luxury of being able to fast forward through commercials.
I'm in the same boat as many people. I wouldn't care about previews and commercials if I wasn't forced to watch them. I loathe not being able to fast forward. It's enough of an insult that we have to watch commercials at the cinema after paying $10 (or whatever the current price is) to watch a movie. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Its just the new comment system.
- Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9That is not the point though. It is fun to claim that you have a loophole that will keep you supplied with an escape route which is fine. It another to help a cause by getting the politicians on our side to get some good laws on paper to stop these ***** from getting their way. They have loads of money and they are not afraid to use it. Laws do mean something so it is important for all to copy and paste the link to this article along with your anger to tour representative about this corporate ***** that is happening. It is still true that you can complain all you want but if that energy is not vented in the right place, you helped almost zero.
I wrote my representatives today, did you? - tjfloyd24517, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10I know what you mean. Argggg
- popothebright, on 10/11/2007, -9/+18Anyone else ready to leave America?
- Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9It's not illegal as long as you own the original. For example if you bought the Shrek DVD and copied it to another DVD so your children could watch it, scratch it up, play frisbee with it, outright mutilate it; you would still have the main archived copy so you could make a new one.
The copy warning was on analog VCR tapes as well but it is still legal. It is not illegal for them to scare the hell out of you though. - rarson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11They tried the expiring thing, remember Circuit City's DivX (not the codec, but the craptacular DVD players that came with a modem that only allowed you to watch a movie by calling up and charging your credit card like $5 for 24 of viewing... which is retarded, because who wants to watch the same movie over again within 24 hours)?
People in the movie industry, actors and directors and such, I've often heard them say that "we would do these jobs for free if we could." It's not like you have to pay them huge money just to make a movie, especially after they're well-established and rich already.
In fact, that doesn't even make sense. Pay the rich people who are already well off the most amount of money for doing the same job. Sure, maybe they're good at it. But shouldn't the reward of the work be enough, since they don't need the money? Why not redistribute the wealth a little bit so that the people working hard doing 10 hours of manual labor a day, 6 days a week can get a little slack? That's the problem with our economy, the people who need the money the least are the ones that make the most. I don't blame people for making money or being rich or being successful or anything. I just think it's pretty ***** up that such a large portion of the population works extremely hard just to make a comparatively few rich people richer. - ElwoodHerring, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Me too. It's all about exposure. The more people listen to my music, the happier I am. Worry about making money AFTER you've created a fan base, and to do that you need to get your name/music known.
- overbyte, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9the only thing illegal with it (apparently - i'm not a lawyer) is to break any copy protection on it in order to copy it
- xtmno3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8When DVD Copies are outlawed, only outlaws will have DVD Copies.
Sorry, I just can't resist. I prefer the method of sitting back and waiting as the populous F's everything up, then at some point in the future laughing as they violently revolt against the very beast they create. Don't worry though, it will all repeat itself numerous times. People never learn. - Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Thanks for letting them know that this interface has some work yet to be done as I have been hit with some glitches myself.
- sacherjj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8It matters because they are making acts that are allowed by one law to be illegal by another. So things that you should be legally allowed to do make you a criminal. It doesn't matter one bit if we tell them to eat this as we rip with DVD Decrypter, we are breaking laws. Face it the minority of the people know how to rip a DVD. Looks at what rights the government has when they label you a terrorist? How long until we are labeled media terrorists. IT MATTERS!
- ilovethissite, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10I thought DVD video backups were already illegal
like the software that breaks DVD video copy protection DeCSS
the FBI warning message that shows up on the start of DVD and VHS movies. - WilliamDavis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10"I wrote my representatives today, did you?"
You're in fantasy land if you think your "representatives" give two ***** about you. - cultist667, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Great idea you goose stepping nazi ***** at mpaa/riaa put drm on all blanks discs to keep people from burning any data they want. I'll take a spindle of discs to your HQ and shove it up your asses till it touches your prostate.
- Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8VOBs and VLC. No matter. It's all horse-***** that has to be stopped. They are going to turn this country into madness by playing these legal warfare games. Time to write your government and tell them to get rid of the software patents along with the total destruction ever owning anything.
- Oldschoolhack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I just want to say, you deserve extra diggs for that. Perfect timing. Too bad the update fixed the multiple digg....
- jmgibson, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Do what I do. Stop buying music, stop buying DVDs, stop supporting the entertainment industry as whole and read a book or get out more and most importantly stop bitching. Politicians, lobbyists, lawyers, etc.. have made it possible for companies to see consumers as a liability rather than an asset, and as an obstacle between them and our money. If people just stopped being consumers of their products, not only might they see the error of their ways (although it's more likely they will pass laws requiring us to buy X amount of entertainment media per month), but you may become a better more rounded person because of it. Or just continue to suck on the entertainment teet and keep driving yourself crazy with the ***** the entertainment industry pulls.
- DeFex, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Bribing the government to make laws for you is the American way. if you do not like it you must be a terrorist!
- CosmicJustice, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7The problem is you keep buying the crap no matter what restrictions they put on it. Until people stop buying, nothing will change.
- Taorluath, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Aye, matey. It's time we pirates started doing real pirate things: like looting and plundering the company responsible for this.
- Cerebral, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6No.
1) not enough people will boycott
2) If we did that they would spin the issue as "Pirating causing loss for movie industry" etc. -
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