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- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+373Whether Steve Jobs' anti-DRM rant was sincere or calculating, the end result is the same. Everyone should go out and purchase a non-DRM track as soon as its possible, show the majors that DRM is dead!
- mattthegeek, on 10/12/2007, -8/+157Dr. M is dying a slow death
Hooray - littleblckheart, on 10/12/2007, -2/+129@ jues & caketank
Steve mentioned during the conference that the upgrade in quality means 256kbps AAC. So unfortunately, no lossless yet, but that's much better than 128! - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -4/+116First I thought, 'Oh they still don't get it', because I read they were doing more expensive, 'premium' versions - why pay the same price as a CD for it, even if it is DRM free?
But then I saw this nugget: "Complete albums from EMI Music artists purchased on the iTunes Store will automatically be sold at the higher sound quality and DRM-free, with no change in the price."
It's only singles that will go up in price. That's superb news - I can't wait to buy my first un-DRM'd album! - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+98Missing an important point.
From EMI's press release
" Complete albums from EMI Music artists purchased on the iTunes Store will automatically be sold at the higher sound quality and DRM-free, with no change in the price. "
http://www.emigroup.com/Press/2007/press18.htm
Awesome! - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+94And another thing. People are missing the elephant in the room. WMA is dead.
I fully expect the other labels to jump on this bandwagon soon, and also for other online stores, and that will mean major bad news for Microsoft. What online record store, apart from the Zune store, will want to use WMA files now? Why lock yourself out of 70-80% of the market by using a format that the iPod cannot play? Hilariously, even Zune owners will now be able to buy music from the iTMS.
It is now in the interest of all online music stores, except Microsoft's, not to use WMA, and that means that WMA is basically dead as a commercial digital music format.
Steve Jobs just slapped Microsoft hard. - darksheer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+88No, its not lossless unfortunately.
But, 256kb aac pretty much as close to it as you can get with lossy compression. I'm pleased with the upgrade. No, its not perfect--but its a hell of a lot better. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+90@jues:
What? They're charging more because you get more: uncrippled, higher quality. Whether you like it or not, it isn't hard to understand.
So far, there's been no indication what "higher quality" means. They've also used the phrase "twice the quality". They could just be bumping up the bitrate, or they could be jumping to Apple Lossless, there's no telling. - TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -2/+73http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musicians_signed_to_EMI
- r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -5/+75"How the hell can the justify charging more for higher bit-rate versions of tracks? By "higher quality" I presume they mean lossless (Apple Lossless?). This is clearly an example of the major's wishing they hadn't been forced into 79p per track downloads in the first place..."
Increased bandwidth costs for starters, as the files are larger.
I'm sick of this, first people whine that they won't purchase downloadable music unless it's DRM-free. Then when someone offers the DRM-free stuff, oh we want it cheaper now.
You just bring up reason after reason to further justify piracy to yourselves. - ih8apple, on 10/12/2007, -4/+69I also find it admirable that they are letting you "Upgrade" your current tracks for only .30 cents.
PS...My user name stands for the fruit...not the company.... - svenjick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+59Today is a good day.
- Schlaefer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+56@caketank
Higher quality means 256k AAC - sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/12/2007, -4/+48Finally someone gets it hopefully the rest of the record labels follow EMI's lead.
- curunculus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45The premium tracks are +30% BUT they are:
-NOT DRMed
-Have a much higher bitrate: "Twice" the current quality.
Good move EMI. - darksheer, on 10/12/2007, -16/+59@ChumpChief--
When will people LISTEN when Steve talks. He's not just giving lip-service, he sites real, factual data. This perceived "lock-in" simply doesn't exist. Unless a consumer buys the majority of their music on itms, they aren't locked in to anything....
And even then, they could burn it to CDs and re-rip.
DRM has never been about lock-in for Apple...I would like to think that this beginning of the end for DRM with apple at the forefront would get that through people's heads. - alecks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40We ALL should... all you diggers who've always bitched about iTunes' DRM... . put your money where your mouth is.... Go buy EMI's DRM free music, if only to show the industry that yes, this is what we want, and we will pay for it, and it won't affect your bottom line (having DRM that is)
- starlord1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41Steve jobs on stage now, confirms iTMS will go DRM EMI free from May
- udahlen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41Nice! Very nice! I think I'll be buying much more music from iTunes now.
- seneyr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39@ChumpChief
Why would opening up iTMS to other players be a bad thing? They have one of the larger catalogs in the industry. Wouldn't opening up the store bring more users? Especially if they land exclusives like the Beatles, etc? - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41"Now their's an escape clause to drive a truck through." - flag564
Ah, in flag's world, even good news is bad news as long as Apple is involved (poor spelling aside). Bitter, sad little man.
Personally, I thank Jobs, Apple, and EMI for actually putting the customer first. Here's hoping the other labels wake up and do the same. - MrLunar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38They're trying to encourage more people to download whole albums because so many people would rather buy single tracks (which makes little money, I'll admit that). They've found an incentive and that is a lower price for the whole album.
- stringbean68, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40Perfect timing - I needed an excuse to go buy an new iPod...
- LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33Say what you will about the guy, but Steve Jobs has balls:
- Q: You mentioned 2.5 million tracks available by year end... obviously that isn't just EMI...
- A: (Steve) Yes... that is our projection for other labels coming on board as well.
Apple is using their position to leverage everyone who's signed on to distribute music on iTunes, not just EMI. This is fantastic! By the end of the year, the whole damn music store should be DRM free... next stop, TV shows and Movies. We're gunning for you, MPAA. - Micrll, on 10/12/2007, -2/+33Interesting how this works out, I think EMI has found a way to boost their album sales (and earn more money on people buying the whole album once again). At the current prices and now better quality and no DRM they can have a better chance at directly competing with CD's
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31aaaaand it's people like you that feed the paranoia of the RIAA. Congrats on being a moron.
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Wow, talk about a blown opportunity. With the huge amount of publicity EMI is going to get from this, you can't just jump in and start buying RIGHT NOW? You have to wait until May??? After much of the buzz has died down?
Whoops. - yanki, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25By paying the price difference you can upgrade to DRM-free tracks once they are available.
- LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23This goes in line with the "Complete your album" feature now. Hopefully, it will let you buy a .99 cent track, and upgrade to the Premium album without having to pay for a redundant track.
This is good news, all around. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Flag disagrees with something Apple is involved in - what a surprise!
Jesus Flag, if Steve Jobs came up to you and said; "Here's a mllion dollars." You'd probably reply; "Yeah, buy I bet it smells of fish?" - kingfoot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23*checks watch to make sure it isn't April 1st anymore* OMG! it's finally happening! I'm crying tears of joy!! (though I've enjoyed drm free music since the start oy my library, my ever growing library, it's still nice to know that it's happening!)
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Who effing cares?
This isn't about making it easier for people to steal music, it's about making sure you really own the music you paid for.
I hate DRM because it means I could lose all the music I bought through iTunes if I switch to a player that doesn't support its DRM scheme. Now, I can buy albums safe in the knowledge that they can be copied to the next generation of players, whoever makes them.
As another poster said above, it's stupid statments like yours that feed the paranoia of the RIAA. - seneyr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Yeah, they kill two birds with one stone:
Get album sales/profits up through the incentive. Give users higher quality music that they're free to do what they want with. Win-win all around?
What's the catch? Other than a little more money for a superior product? - aminorking, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22The story on the Apple site
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/04/02itunes.html - FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Suck it RIAA bastards!
- prisoner24601, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I've *never* bought a song from iTunes in the past (specifically because of the DRM.) I just downloaded it and absolutely *will* buy some songs the very day they have this up and running. The most positive thing we can do to kill DRM is make sure there is a dramatic EMI sales spike on "Day One" when this is out.
The vocal minority of whiners who are complaining here are completely missing the point. Steve Jobs is giving us a chance to put a tool in his hands to get this done with ever other label too. If we show up, we get to put a stake through the heart of DRM this May.
Day One is a chance to make an unmistakably loud and clear statement to the industry. - etandrib, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Steve said EMI's catalogue will be available in non DRM format beginning in May.
- itsme7g, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Hmmm, without the "s" on the end of apple it seems as if you hate only one. What happened to make you hate that apple? As for me I hate pear. Not all of them. Like you it is just that one bastard.
- hdort, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17I wonder how that will affect iTMS sales: why would I buy an album now, if I could get it in higher quality and without DRM in 4 weeks for the same price?
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Stocks in Office Depot just went up in anticipation of a large new order of Office Chairs coming in from Redmond.
- MrUnderbridge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Well, if you actually obey the law, you'll have no problems. If you're not obeying the law, you're probably not buying it anyway.
- AuraithX, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Full_size_iPod
- shmatt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@manage
RIAA sucks, but you're the reason they suck. Pay for your music *****, buy direct from artists if you feel so strongly about it. - Phoenixfury, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Flag, after today we can finally say... The only thing worse than the RIAA is a music pirate! As long as the labels are working in it's customer's favor, there is absolutely no reason to pirate their works when they are finally being reasonable.
- wilhoitm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Ballmer Hyperventilating! DRM, DRM, DRM, DRM.....
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@simplex42,
I don't know where to begin attacking your comment, it's got so many weak spots. I read your blog comment, and your entire argument rests on the fact that non-DRM'd tracks cost an extra thirty cents, and that "the file download is larger."
The file size is larger because the audio quality is higher. Do you also complain about 12 ounce steaks taking up more room on your plate than 8 oz steaks?
Thirty cents extra, first of all, is only if you don't buy the album. At $1.29 a track for a single, it's still much better than the six bucks you used to pay when you bought a CD single. For the album, you're getting high-quality, DRM free downloads from a major label, that can be backed up as many times as you like, all while sitting on your butt. With a physical CD, you have to go to the store, pay around eighteen bucks an album, and you get one disc that can be scratched, broken, or lost.
What's bizarre is that you have a site that uses design elements from Apple's classic Mac OS 9, yet you seem obsessed with Apple bashing. What the heck is a "Kepplemeyer Group," anyway? And what do you mean "RDF, anyone?" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15a 29ยข premium for higher quality non DRM. I'll by that for a quarter... and four pennies.
- Fordi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Hey, I don't mind the change. I'll usually buy an album over single tracks anyway; I discover some great music (and some crap) that way.
- tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Yes, they have a whole classical label (several in fact).
- Thataboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16The Zune DOES play AAC.
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