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- cle2105, on 11/25/2008, -5/+95Internet killed the satellite star
- sockpuppets, on 11/25/2008, -2/+69It will be fine once it gets a government bailout for $100 billion next year.
- drmangrum, on 11/25/2008, -3/+50*****. His whole argument is mp3's and the economy? Please. Until traditional radio gets it through their heads that we don't want to hear 30 minutes of commercials followed by 15 minutes of inane DJ speak, satellite radio will continue to thrive. Until an MP3 player can give me new music I haven't heard before, I'll continue to listen to Sirius/XM.
Honestly, it's the best $15 a month I spend. I can listen to it on the drive to work. I can get a web cast and listen to it AT work. I can listen to it on long drives and NEVER have to fiddle with the dial to find a station. - kickasspodcast, on 11/25/2008, -14/+47the content on satellite radio is far better than regular radio, much of the talk programming surpasses anything you can download as a podcast (legally). Satellite radio gives people options their ipod can't. Your ipod doesn't have a bleugrass station does it? I forgot that your n95 doesn't have a greatful dead station. I know you wish your iphones could stream Howard live? But they can't. With cars come radios. Once you have sat radio in your car you will never go back. They just need to add more advanced Tivo like functions and that is already on the way. So many people have a financial interest in sat radio's failure. Too bad it won't. Howard always ends up on top. You can't listen to whatever yo uwant on your ipods either. you can listen to whatever you've already downloaded. and paid for, or stolen. Something about a DJ on the radoi playing a song you've not heard in years. Something magical . this story is trash. There will always be room for media that is not time shifted, it is what most people are used to. Oh yeah, your N95 or G1 or Iphone can't record streaming content can they? Didn't think so. Sat radio has only just begun.
Join the Revolution *****. If you aren't listening to Howard on Sirius you probably don't have a clue anyways- or can't afford the sub costs because your just a kid using digg afterall, not as if you are buying new cars or traveling alot or anything. Now that the merger is done, users can get more content than ever. OTA like no iphone can ever dream of, with sensible buffering and timeshifting options to boot. Bababoooooey! - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -6/+38and it's commercial free... yeah, that's what they said about cable when it first come out.
- mblind, on 11/25/2008, -4/+33I love my Sirius..I am rooting for em.
- jagermeistr, on 11/25/2008, -2/+27Let's also not forget that all the former XM subscribers are in revolt over how Sirius has obliterated everything that was so great about the XM service. All the people that made XM great were forced out (director of programming Eric Logan), replace by the older and less innovative Sirius management (I'm looking at you Mel Karmazin). Sirius is all about the quick buck, as seen by the addition of the Metallica and AC/DC 24-7 channels. Why would you have these channels when people can these same things on their Ipods?
Lack of innovation and alienation of your most loyal customers equals a failed company. I think Satellite could have survived had the merger not happened, and they found a way to make having satellite radio as important as having an MP3 player (could have easily been done with how awesome the service was in 05' and 06'). At this point Opie and Anthony are the only thing that keeps me on XM. - sockpuppets, on 11/25/2008, -0/+19Artie Lang was on Conan the other night. He's got to be 400 pounds now.
- e2superman, on 11/25/2008, -2/+19I will go ahead and support them. XM Radio in my car rocks. It is built into the Navigation system and offers hundreds of channels including TV News Audio live from CNN/FOX/CNBC/etc... Also every single NFL, College football, NHL, MLB game....
- apastafarian, on 11/24/2008, -12/+29I couldn't agree more. Even their internet access comes with severe device restrictions and must be listened to streaming. I don't travel by car regularly and travel in and out of satellite reception range, making satellite radio unusable to me. Streaming netcasts require constant net connectivity and kill battery life. OTH, I have several podcasts delivered daily to my phone that I can listen to at my convenience, no streaming or line of sight issues. I even download Stern occasionally. If satellite does fail, Howard could move on to a podcast, at about 1/1000 of his Sirius salary. For "talk radio", the future is Leo Laporte.
- JasonHilton, on 11/25/2008, -0/+15Relax, satellite radio isn't going anywhere.
- SillyRabbits, on 11/25/2008, -0/+14I'm just rooting for satellite radio. It's a blessing for people who are stuck in awful local radio markets.
- HouseofEl, on 11/25/2008, -3/+17I think the merger has killed it. I personally had XM and always felt they had the superior music stations. Now those stations are gone or under new management and just suck. The merger seems to have killed the best parts of both services. I'm pretty much done with it. Reception doesn't really matter anymore because if I'm traveling I tend to listen to podcasts. It was a nice try, but it's done.
- L3on, on 11/25/2008, -0/+14Link to the actual article:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article. ... - MrJ777, on 11/25/2008, -6/+17I pay for XM so I can listen to Opie and Anthony in my car.
And I will continue to do so. - microview2007, on 11/25/2008, -0/+11I listen to the comedy stations on XM while driving down the hi-way. People see me laughing hysterically and move out of the way.
- tekkitan, on 11/25/2008, -0/+11They call it a merger, but it was a takeover of XM by Sirius. It's apparent for any subscribers of XM. A lot of the XM channels have been taken off the air and replaced by Sirius channels, lots of XM employees let go or left the company.
- e2superman, on 11/25/2008, -0/+10Not a penny. Stop being cynical. For the costs of two trips to McDonalds a month it is a great deal. To each his own but I love it. Also I get live traffic conditions overlaid on my in-dash Nav system. I can see the tarffic on all the highways around here just like on google maps.
- Spoomeister, on 11/25/2008, -2/+12Good. ***** Sirius killed perfectly good XM. Ever since the merger:
- the playlists are less diverse and repeat more often
- the DJs more annoying
- DJs have been added to channels that didn't have them before
- the channel names are more bland
- the music selection is narrower
- the announcements of what channel you're on are clumsier, because they couldn't figure out how to give a channel the same number on both systems
- the added content from Sirius is a bunch of crap that I didn't want - if I wanted the Jeff Foxworthy channel, Nascar and Howard Stern I would have bought Sirius when it was its own company
Baseball, POTUS and maybe 2 - 3 other channels are about the only thing keeping me from cancelling right now, as opposed to just letting my subscription expire. Good thing I got one of those little sportster things; I'd be even more ticked if I'd actually spent money on a high-end satellite radio receiver for my car... - CrikeyMike, on 12/17/2008, -11/+21Heck, with my iPhone I can now tune into MP3 quality audio over the Internet. App: Nullriver Tuner and NPR's Public Radio Tuner. Buh-bye satellite.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -1/+10Its commercial free music. The talk stations have commercials.
- drmangrum, on 11/25/2008, -0/+9There are little 5 second segment's, not NEARLY as bad regular broadcast. When I lived in San Antonio, the rock station there had a couple of DJ's that yammered on for 15 minutes trying to decide what the hell they were going to yammer on about for the rest of the show.
What broadcast radio has forgotten is that people listen to the radio to hear MUSIC, not some jackass and his crew yack about nothing. - thefinger, on 11/25/2008, -0/+9mp3... quality? convenient yes, quality, not really
- Pumaman, on 11/25/2008, -1/+9I'm just going to go quickly through this point by point:
1) MP3 phones have been around for some time, in fact, I have an MP3 compatible smart phone. I have about 6 MP3's on it. There is no connectivity between my phone and my car. There is no real audio out, and the fact I have to download an MP3 to my phone, then hook it up to my car, THEN drive really is a pain in the ass. Satellite radio, I drop the receiver into my car with the included car kit and go.
2) MP3 compatible car decks have been around for at least 5 years (hell, 10 years?). This hasn't prevented, nor will it kill, satellite radio. If you want new content on the fly (ie, songs you haven't downloaded yet) then satellite radio is still for you.
3) The "coming wave of mobile broadband dashboards"... seriously, does this guy know what wireless broadband costs in North America? Look at all the iPhone users who are crying foul over wireless plans. They are raping us in regards to wireless broadband prices. A price change is not happening in two years, let alone ten. A $14.99 Sirius satellite radio subscription for unlimited access sure looks good compared to $100 (or more) for unlimited data plans.
4) Pod casting again has been around since the very start of satellite radio, and satellite radio has only grown since then. Again, you have to go to your computer, download the podcast to your iPhone (or MP3 player), hook it up to your car, and then go. See point number 1 for the drop and go of satellite radio.
5) How do you plan on having live pod casting in your car, unless you have a wireless broadband data plan? (see point #3). Again, as it stands right now, the price is out of the reach of most people.
6) This is really only the valid point in the whole article. Unless management can manage their debt, and bring in more subscribers, it might go under. But then again, couldn't they just ask for a government bailout like everyone else? (sarcasm)
Really, I wouldn't start ebaying your satellite radio just yet. It will be around for a looooooong time to come. I guess there has to be doomsayers for every new technology. - TomK88, on 11/25/2008, -4/+12I guess that explains why SIRI had $500 million in losses in 2007 and $1 billion in 2008. This company has yet to turn a profit and things are only going to get worse in this economic climate, hence why the stock is trading at $0.16 as opposed to almost $4 less than a year ago.
- tekkitan, on 11/25/2008, -2/+10I don't see how a service with over 11 million subscribers would just die off in two years.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+8I just canceled my XM subscription yesterday.
XM sucks now! Getting sick of all the boner pill and get rich quick ads.
It's definately not commercial free anymore and they threw out all of the XM stations. Why didn't they just add instead of replace..don't they have 999 stations or more? - Dignan666, on 11/25/2008, -8/+16no they didn't.
- HigherLogic, on 11/25/2008, -0/+8Don't forget Pandora and Last.fm!
- mrlivingston, on 11/25/2008, -2/+10The Duggles
- xkorbin, on 11/25/2008, -2/+9It's a fun concept, they just do too much internal advertising, and lock down their stuff.
I didn't really like Sirius's marketing strategy and all of their internal ads. XM had a cool thing going. - VagueRant, on 11/25/2008, -1/+8I was seriously considering getting XM in my car.
It seems like after the merger, XM is a mere shell of it's former self.
That sucks, I guess I'll just spend my money on iPod compatibility. - drmangrum, on 11/25/2008, -1/+8And you can't listen to internet radio in your car. Satellite covers the whole of north america. The best you can get while driving is hacking a stream through an iPhone or something, and then if you get a dead spot, your screwed.
- samard2002, on 11/25/2008, -2/+9This might be the one bailout that would be justified, considering how much damage the government did to the industry by blocking the life-saving merger for well over a year.
- TomK88, on 11/25/2008, -1/+8When you lose hundreds of millions of dollars every year and your stock price dips into oblivion in a matter of days, I would say anything is possible.
- mikemil828, on 11/25/2008, -0/+7It isn't that bad with satellite, at most 5 minutes per hour on music channels, and usually it's to tell people about programs they might want to listen to on other channels. Anyway I kinda like knowing that there is at least someone on the sending side of the equation, not just some overglorified file server hooked up to a fat pipe and told to shuffle between songs forever which is generally the case with internet stations.
- SillyRabbits, on 11/25/2008, -1/+7Believe it or not, not as many people listen to Stern as you think. Even though I have access to his show, I haven't listened to it once since he moved to Sirius. I was a subscriber long before he came over, and will be a subscriber long after he retires. I simply find other content much more entertaining.
- shiddysmurf, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6What a smug piece of *****.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6I dugg your comment kickass.... I started out with sirius before the merger. I just never really got into Howard. Just not my cup of tea. But satellite radio does kick ass especially when you have to drive a lot for your job or on a long trip.
- regeya, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6But...but...I thought it was great to live in a market dominated by ClearChannel, whose strategy is obviously to play the same six ***** songs over and over...
- xkorbin, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6Interesting, attempting to merge an article with spam techniques.
Bury, report, block. - inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+6Nooo, I don't want to see howard sitting in his pajamas in front of a clock talking to callers that I can't legally hear.
- soupdawg30, on 11/25/2008, -1/+7I liked XM mainly because I never had to change the channel. Now that all the stations are Sirius instead of XM I find myself changing the channel all the time. I do not plan on renewing.
- non00b, on 11/25/2008, -1/+7if the FCC hadn't delayed the merger for 2 years due to terrestrial radio lobbyist pressure, XM/Sirius might have been fine.
US government killed this one, and yet they will bail out failing car companies and the like. - bwmdiym, on 11/25/2008, -0/+5Leo Laporte is the man at least you learn something when you listen to his stuff I have been a twit fan for years now! Podcast FTW!
- shimmyNshake, on 11/25/2008, -2/+7Actually, when I was in high school, I never cared for Stern. I really didnt become a real fan until I went to graduate school.
- inactive, on 11/25/2008, -0/+5Wow, I can only hope to one day to become as sophisticated as you are, jerrycurley!
http://digg.com/users/jerrycurley/history/comments - karmaghost, on 11/25/2008, -3/+8They thought that the merger (i.e. elimination of competition) between the two satellite radio companies would EXTEND its lifetime? Really?
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 11/25/2008, -1/+6> "Sterns contract ends in a little more 2 years. His retirement will sink SiriusXm."
His retirement will be a blessing. I don't like Howard Stern. There, I said it. I also don't know *anyone* that actually listens to him. - sugarazor, on 11/25/2008, -3/+8There is plenty of inane DJ speak on satellite as well.
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