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- Berkana, on 07/08/2009, -0/+77The CEO of Google, Erik Schmidt, is on the board of directors of Apple. I don't think war between Google and Apple is likely.
- paradisetonight, on 07/08/2009, -3/+34Berkana, you are correct, its more like google and apple are waging a war against microsoft
- RegalBegal, on 07/08/2009, -4/+28Prediction: Only cellar dwellers will give a *****.
- BalancingAct, on 07/08/2009, -0/+21"and quite frankly, I’m certain this is the beginning of the end for Ubuntu & co. "
I wouldn't be so sure. People tend to stick with what they know unless they is a good reason to switch - inactive, on 07/08/2009, -0/+19This is ridiculous. These two companies compliment each other quite nicely. Google doesn't have a deep desire to be in the hardware arena, Apple would love nothing more than for Google's services to further replace their Microsoft counterparts, so that more people can switch to OSX. Obviously Apple would love you to use their office suite etc, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
- TheBlueVulcan, on 07/08/2009, -0/+12There was also zero evidence they were capable of producing a successful search engine, email client, map service, online docs, mobile operating system...shall I go on?
- smack1700, on 07/08/2009, -1/+10You wanna go to war? Ok, I take you to war
- EddiePotato, on 07/08/2009, -0/+9I agree. Prairie dogs have just as much a right to be there as those ranchers.
- ToastPop, on 07/08/2009, -0/+9Hence why non-geeks don't use Ubuntu.
- krisrm, on 07/08/2009, -0/+9I'm not sure... it sounds like you'd need some sort of extreme interest in science and programming to make a claim like that.
- Digglet69, on 07/08/2009, -2/+10there's a reply button right there
- everyonegohome, on 07/08/2009, -6/+14Google, you have my bow
- clickmyface, on 07/08/2009, -0/+7And - oh by the way - a high stock price and profitable search engine means nothing when you're standing next to the men who, you know, put personal computing on the map.
For some reason people automatically assume that Google can compete at everything. A bit of news - the best programmers (not mathematicians writing search algorithms) already have jobs. They work in places like San Jose and Cupertino. They are very happy with what they are doing.
While I most certainly appreciate what Google has done, they have not come very close at all to stepping on Microsofts core market, and they most certainly haven't touched Apple's. - Daniel591992, on 07/08/2009, -1/+8You are right. I actually happen to know a lot about politics and wars and i the way things work is that companies can not go to war, you see, since they don't have weapons or anything.
- krisrm, on 07/08/2009, -0/+7Ok, Google's pretty sweet and everything, but the author's gone just a little bit overboard in his obsession... Google apps "(of which I use all)" haven't exactly made a huge dent in Office (Open or otherwise)'s market share, and I'm pretty certain Microsoft and Apple aren't "shaking in their boots" at their announcement of Chrome OS... what they're aiming for is fairly niche, and while it may eventually succeed on the netbook where <random Linux variant> has not, good luck in the "war" against Microsoft in the desktop OS arena, which you conveniently "forgot" about: "What I’d like to focus on here however is Apple, a company which just weeks ago I couldn’t see myself ever abandoning, and who had convinced me that beauty, elegance and reliability were my top priorities when it came to an operating system."
People that are so blindly devoted to corporations who couldn't give a damn about them really scare me. - krisrm, on 07/08/2009, -0/+7That was more because of the "wow, Hotmail is gay" factor than anything else...
- EddiePotato, on 07/08/2009, -0/+7Only they are guiding us to the "good" singularity, where AI will commandeer defense computers and fire all missiles into deep space where they can't be evil.
- swimtwobirds, on 07/08/2009, -0/+7yep. and god but i love google maps in london. street view the lot, popping up on me iphone. its crazy how comprehensive the mapping is. its just impossible to get lost in london with it. i even know what bus stop to get off at that's closest to the pin, and i know what the place looks like before i get there.. this wandered off into maps eulogy.. but its just so. well. executed.
- sameer768, on 07/08/2009, -1/+8and my axe
- Braxo, on 07/08/2009, -0/+6Aren't only Apple MacBook Pro displays limited to 6-bit?
I thought if you plugged in a capable second monitor, it would output colors appropriately. - gnuguy99, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5wow so a OS that no one has seen, has 0 market share, and currently 0 OEM's shipping it coming from a company that has 0 experience shipping computer OS's, minimal experience shipping a mobile OS and no retail chain experience, has now been declared the next market leader that is going to destroy Microsoft and Apple.
Nope, that guy is not a fan boy at all, not a chance.
Btw, just because Google is claiming that their OS is going to be easier to use and more secure means absolutely nothing, hell, think of how long MS has been saying that. - HomerPimpson4, on 07/08/2009, -0/+5Dugg for Scarface.
- zeedotme, on 07/08/2009, -1/+6He is indeed...i wonder for how long...
- 13373h4X0r, on 07/08/2009, -1/+6"These two companies compliment [sic] each other quite nicely."
LOL! "You're the least-evil company ever!" "Oh, you're too kind! Your products are well-designed!" "Why, thank you!..."
I'm not a Grammar Nazi, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night... - whitesaint, on 07/08/2009, -1/+6They're not direct competitors at all. No way a simple web OS can compete with OS X's massive hardware and software base. That and they're pretty much targeting separate markets. Novice users get a mac for ease of use and simplicity especially when it comes to managing digital devices (iLife). Pro users get a mac for high-end work (which requires a super fast processor btw) such as programming, network simplicity, 2D/3D graphic design, and HD video editing, for example. Google OS targets netbook users that want to use the basic Google Apps for simple productivity needs. While Google Apps are great for collaborative work and online access, Microsoft's Office and Apple's iWork blow it completely out of the water. I really doubt Google Docs can do 3D graphs for instance. But in any case, I think Apple sees it as Google will erode Microsoft's OS share rather than it's own. I'm sure there are a lot of PC users out there that use a PC nothing more than to browse the web, write an e-mail, or use Office. The Mac is more high end, while Google's netbook is much more low end.
- Akairenn, on 07/08/2009, -2/+7@Qumahlin:
Bull. It's all about Apple. You don't pimp yourself out to be the solution to graphic design and then put run of the mill panels on your laptops. - inactive, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4On the right mouse button, where it's been for the past 5-10 years, you slut
- bdbr, on 07/08/2009, -0/+4This is the second article I've read today about "Chrome OS" totally dependent on web apps, and I keep thinking: the very first iPhone was also designed to use only web apps, and it fell flat as an app platform...until a dev kit came a long so it was no longer dependent on web apps (then it became hugely popular).
Isn't Google just repeating Apple's failure on a different platform? People might be OK with a first-gen phone that doesn't do much other than web browsing, but they expect more from a netbook. - spectre_25gt, on 07/09/2009, -0/+4Dugg for hope.
- Qumahlin, on 07/08/2009, -3/+7Macs do not only support 6-bit. Are you referring to Macbook laptops most of which have 6 bit PANELS? Nothing in OSX locks a 8-bit panel to 6-bits.
Do some reading before you make asinine statements. The whole debate over the apple 6 bit / 8 bit ordeal was that people feel since they are paying more for the laptops and they are called "pro" they should come with a 8-bit panel.
You will find more laptops have 6-bit panels versus 8-bit panels overall. It has nothing to do with Apple or OSX. - FredFredrickson, on 07/08/2009, -2/+6Personally, I think Google's OS is going to hurt Apple and Linux more than it will Microsoft.
Granted, Apple isn't in the netbook business, but excepting people who use big apps on their computers, like Photoshop or Final Cut, many could be drawn to a far cheaper Google OS if it promises all the web surfing stuff they are used to, ease of use, and it sufficiently glossy. - enantiodromia, on 07/08/2009, -0/+3So besides single handedly absolutely dominating, then revolutionizing, Search and Advertising, creating a server farm model that nearly every other company with huge operations wish to emulate, building out datacenters so far advanced from all the others, and oh yeah, giving the average end-user the chance to monetize using the Google network, what other industry changing contributions do you require from them?
All those people who underestimated what Google could and would do back in 1999 are going to live the rest of their lives wishing they didn't make a $100,000,000 mistake. - KSUdesigner, on 07/08/2009, -1/+4I honestly haven't read much about Google's OS yet, but will all of their apps (Google Docs, mail, etc.) be available to use when you are not connected to the internet? With a regular OS I can still work if my network is down, but I can't if my apps all depend on a network connection to run. This is the main reason why I don't use Google apps more often now...because I never know when my network might go down (I live in a rural area, it is not uncommon that the network is down) and I can't rely on something that might not be available for use under certain circumstances. If Google's apps aren't going to be available for use in an offline mode then Apple and MS have little to worry about for now.
- HonoredMule, on 07/09/2009, -0/+3Google's draw is drying up. We'll continue to see innovation and interesting advances, but overall Google has peaked. They hit the crest about a year ago when they started cutting employee benefits, slowed their hiring, and being the subject of articles painting a more down-to-earth picture of what working for them is really like today. What's left for them now is a couple decades of stability followed by a slow decline just like Microsoft and IBM in its day.
- Altotus, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2There isn't a whole lot available in laptop displays that supports 8-bit. That's why graphic designers / phtographers don't use laptops (Mac or otherwise) without an external display. For the most part, color work on video is done on CRTs or very specially calibrated external LCD displays.
- imkidred, on 07/09/2009, -0/+2Buried. If anything, Google would get in bed with Apple. Look at the board of directors. The Google OS is built onto unix, just like OS X. Google would take the place of MSFT and Apple would continue it's path the world would be a beautiful place.
- adosmaerc, on 07/08/2009, -3/+5I, for one, welcome our new Google overlords.
- EddiePotato, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2What if it has all the advantages of what you're currently using, without disadvantages such as lack of standardization and uniform support from all major SW and HW developers?
- inactive, on 07/08/2009, -3/+5Wow..what a fanboy-like article on both sides.
Google apps is not taking any significant market share away from Microsoft. - blakespot, on 07/09/2009, -1/+3OS X is actually 21 years evolved. Don't underestimate it.
- inactive, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2Google has plenty of competition in every area. And so far, except in search and ad sense, that competition is winnuing handily.
- JohnnySoftware, on 07/12/2009, -0/+2The particular developer that wrote this article can achieve his dreads today, heck starting ten years ago - in 1999 when Java 2 came out withotu waiting for Google's cross platform solution.
Java has had the same native code support as it does today for more than a decade. It has been cross platform for a decade and a half although the implementation of that was not really good until 1999 when Java 2 came out.
I think Google & Apple are aboutas likely to go to war as a pet rock and a lava lamp. They are 2 different companies in 2 different markets:
1. revenue from advertising vs. revenue from computer hardware sales
2. search engine company vs. non-search engine company
3. web services company vs. non-web services company.
4. operating system user vs. operating system maker
Microsoft keeps seeing the gold in Google's pocket and wanting to compete for it but so far they have not been able to nudge Gogle away from any troughs. Throughout the 200s, when Microsoft predicted the downfall or irrelevance of a company - that company (Apple iPod/Mac/iPhone, Mozilla Firefox, Google Search, Unix) quickly defeated them or took market share from Microsoft - not the othere way around.
No war brewing between Apple and Google. - enantiodromia, on 07/08/2009, -1/+3Microsoft will turn into the North Korea of the Internet after this war is over.
"Hey guys? Guys? Hey, remember us? Come on guys... look, we have missiles with lasers and stuff on them... *pew!* *pew!* No? Nothing? Fine... we'll try to get your attention again next year, if we're still around." - TheBlueVulcan, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2Google Gears already allows you to work on documents offline. It's not unlikely something similar will come pre-installed on the OS.
- smack1700, on 07/09/2009, -1/+3Can't believe it took someone that long to notice the Scarface reference
- CraigHwk, on 07/08/2009, -5/+7"I’m certain this is the beginning of the end for Ubuntu & co"
That's where I stopped reading. - syphern, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2Well since google controls my email and calendar...ALL HAIL GOOGLE!
- bugalou, on 07/08/2009, -0/+2Internet infrastructure is no where near being ready for major enterprises throwing all their chips on the table and going to pure web based apps, or even appliance based apps. This could be a big win for medium to small businesses though, but that is hardly the target of Apple, and MS has huge companies supporting them.
Google needs to keep it's focus on their search engine too, I become more and more frustrated with the results I get daily. Bing was a surprise to me too, actually being decent. - JohnnySoftware, on 07/12/2009, -0/+2This reminds me of a boilerplate of the claim pushed by Microsoft for several years until they finally dropped it that Linux adoption was only going to come at the expense of Unix Markshare.
Instead, we find:
1. Linux market share growth is fairly flat the past couple of years.
2. FreeBSD Unix based Mac OS X adoption has steadily increased to close to 10%.
3. MS-Windows is the operating system that has steadily lost market share.
These "X market share can only increase at the expense of Y" are horribly biased and completely unsound. Obviously, Microsoft could not predict the fall of their own product. Guessing the rise or fall of TWO products simultaneously in the same market is even harder to do and less useful.
I'm surprised that Microsoft's shareholders didn't beat them up over making this forward-looking statement and getting it so wrong. Or did they merely farm it out to their shills in the PC "journalism" and "market research" industry?
It was kind of a black eye when journalists admitted they did get paid to espouse Microsoft's views during the antitrust trial in an attempt to sway public opinion in their favor. As for the market research guys, the good ones disclose who paid them to do the study and report its results. That usually tells you a lot about what you know. -
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