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- drouk1556, on 10/12/2007, -8/+363No, it's definitely piracy. aXXo is a DVD-ripper who makes them available on BT.
Interview: http://torrentfreak.com/interview-axxo-the-most-popular-dvd-ripper-on-bittorrent/ - nymphetamine, on 10/25/2007, -11/+324Our Ripper, who art on mininova,
aXXo be thy name.
Thy torrents come.
Seeding will be done,
Here as it was on suprnova.
Give us this day our latest rips.
And forgive us our leeching,
As we forgive those that leech from us.
And lead us not on to private trackers;
But deliver us from the MPAA:
For thine is the ripping, the seeding, and the glory,
For ever and ever. - Tenetri, on 10/12/2007, -4/+187I worked at the Source for 6 months and every movie we played was pirated, usually the night before
We were actually instructed to not purchase movies with the stores money, my district manager told my manager. - gravis86, on 10/12/2007, -8/+139So what? We had 6 seasons of Top Gear and at least 50 full-length movies on a Home Entertainment PC at CompUSA, and nobody complained.
BTW, what kind of idiot wouldn't rename the files before loading them onto another device? - Invisz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+95Unfortunately I work at The Source, and none of the managers or employees give a damn. We are instructed to keep something playing on the screen, but we're not given any money or dvd's to play, other than The Source looped commercials. The commission is *****, and upper management tries to screw you by creating sales target requirements and adding/removing commission bonuses(spiffs) as they please.
Yes, our prices suck, because the reps need to be paid. We spend all day dealing with the confused elderly, or wealthy immigrants. If you read Digg, chances are you're not our target audience. - fuzzmeister, on 10/25/2007, -9/+95May aXXo be with you.
- EasY_TargeT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+87circuit city up here is technically called "the source by circuit city" circuit city bought radio shack (dont know if you have them in states) but yea its basically a small store inside malls.
- RedHerringHack, on 10/25/2007, -9/+82amen.
- betterth, on 10/25/2007, -8/+69That was beautiful.
- tempusrob, on 10/12/2007, -9/+54"Like say I download Spiderman 3 on torrent... but... I already bought the dvd and have a reciept....then its completely legal because I "own" a copy. Store bought..."
I wish people would stop perpetuating that myth... - Tobark, on 10/12/2007, -10/+48I shed a tear....then grabbed a beer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42to be on THEIR TV. How come the only people with good grammar are the people who don't submit things?
- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37When I was working at CC, we constantly ran Napster and Audiogalaxy in order to play music in the store. It was definitely not corporately approved, but the management looked the other way.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36hey, in all fairness, Circuit City just knows a quality DVD-rip when they see one!
ewwwww Radioshack. We have them here :(
... and to think, they use to sell high-quality product. - av4rice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29"look what happened to be on there TV"
...as opposed to what happened on here TV? - VaporBro, on 10/26/2007, -14/+39Praise Jebus!
- mrgreen4242, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26""Like say I download Spiderman 3 on torrent... but... I already bought the dvd and have a reciept....then its completely legal because I "own" a copy. Store bought..."
I wish people would stop perpetuating that myth..."
Actually, I've been doing some research on that and he's *probably* right. The courts opinion in, for example, the Napster case indicated that the "space shifting" argument had validity, but was not applicable in that case because 1) the original sharer had no way to know if all people getting it from them had a license, and 2) once the downloader had the file, they were/could be sharing it as well, which was not something the license they had would allow. It didn't really become a large part of the case, since the issue was never with the downloaders but with Napster for aiding infringement. I'm sure that there's been some more decisions related to that argument, but I've not seen them. The other major file sharing service cases haven't made that argument (or at least not strongly) as far as I've seen. - seaner, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29Seems slow here is a mirror: http://5tags.com/tmp/042120071500.jpg
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Do not EVER address axxo as just "someone"
that is all! - Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -6/+26Im pretty sure (but not too sure) that pirating is illigal in canada, just no one seems to give a rats ass if you do or not.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22The MPAA cares.
You know how much they could sue a huge company for?! - lieutenantmudd, on 10/25/2007, -6/+25I thought piracy was "legal" in Canada because you had to pay taxes on blank media. I don't know if it extends to movies, but I am pretty sure you can freely download and burn music because music companies collect taxes on blank CDs to compensate for piracy losses.
- Scribblargh, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23You're a retard, this has NOTHING to do with the code.
- SmashSource, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22@Nick. We have the Circuit CIty alone here? Im in toronto and havent ever seen a circuit city (other than the source)
- roughridersfan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19My understanding is that you can download movies in Canada, but you can't make the movies available for others to download from you.
- rprouse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18They may have a right to show movies for demo purposes, but they do not have a right to pirate the movies they are demoing.
- fittysix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18not in canada, the store is called "The Source by Circuit City"
Also, I worked in an electronics store once, this is nothing new, employees bring this stuff in so they have something other than "Miss Congeniality" to watch for the 564th time, we even occasionally showed screeners in demo rooms and stuff. - Idva, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@Nick22
Nope, no Circuit City's in Canada...only The Source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_City
FTA: "Circuit City's locations in Canada are operated by InterTAN Canada Ltd which Circuit City acquired as of May 19, 2004. InterTAN runs The Source by Circuit City (formerly Radio Shack) chain in Canada (some of them now called La Source in Quebec) as well as THS Studio UpClose, and G-Wiz." - cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14@Ngai
"If the store already sells the real dvds... what to stop them from using a dvdrip from a torrent?..
Like say I download Spiderman 3 on torrent... but... I already bought the dvd and have a reciept....
then its completely legal because I 'own' a copy. Store bought... I think the same way goes here...."
@y TempusRob
"I wish people would stop perpetuating that myth..."
@mrgreen4242
"Actually, I've been doing some research on that and he's *probably* right."
That's a stretch. It's one thing to say it hasn't been decided in court, but quite another to say that some legal assertion is "probably right", when it comes to notions of questionable copyright bending. You'll do yourself a huge favor by looking up two cases, "Load 'N Go", where the MPAA sued a company for "preloading" iPods with video with DVD rips for movies customers purchased at the same time as the iPod. Also, my.Mp3.com, the case that took down Mp3.com. By proving you owned the music, Mp3.com let you add music to your "virtual playlist" and access your music from anywhere. They also let you immediately access music if you purchased a CD from a partner vendor. Mp3.com was forced to settle and sell its assets. Michael Robertson, the previous CEO of Mp3.com is at it again with AnywhereCD.com... a service that allows you to download Mp3 files for any CD album a customer purchases. In short order, this resulted in Warner Music terminating its contract with the vendor.
Maybe you'd like to assert that none of these cases were ever fought to a "decision", but instead settled by the parties involved instead, but I'll go ahead and say that's a moot point. The clear answer seems to be, plan to get SUED and LOSE your weak case, if you're assuming you have the right to distribute copies of DVDs to people who *supposedly* already own them.
Do you have the right to download pirated music/movies if you already bought a copy? The studios don't even believe you have the right to rip your OWN copies, but luckily, this particular instance HAS been argued and won (see the recent Kaleidascape decision). Its one thing to make your OWN copy, its something else to acquire someone else's copies. Clearly the first is protected, and the second is in highly questionable ground. my.mp3.com specifically failed to make the case that its "checks" for ownership actually held up to legal scrutiny. That's part of the breakdown in logic.
In this case, the best the store could have done, would have been to simply RENAME the files, and do a few other things to obscure the origin of them. At the point where the files become indistinguishably generic, its a lot weaker to attack. Sitting around with a drive full of files named after a popular pirate, probably doesn't help if the mpaa wanted to make an example of them.
Still, its all fairly useless to discuss, because the MPAA or RIAA is generally FAR more interested in uploaders than downloaders, more interested in sellers than buyers. Even the little old grandmothers or dead people that they sue, are parties of interest because they're leaving themselves open as "sources" or "servers". Joe Smoe sitting in Boise, Idaho with 500 illegal DVD rips aren't going to interest them until they discover him selling copies at the local flea market fr $3 a pop or leaving Limewire up. Even though its illegal, its small potatoes for them to go after users.
When the AllofMp3.com issue was raging, no one really established in court that it was illegal for "customers" to buy. This is a continuing debate. - profingersk8er, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I used to work at Circuit City, and most (if not all) of the movies we played on TV sets outside of the TV department are all burned copies
- SPECOPS, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19those same blank media taxes are paid here in the USA too (on dics which show the label), but it's still illegal because the profiteering mafia still control what laws are passed (e.g. DCMA).
- Scyth3, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11If you own a copy of the DVD, and you downloaded a .avi of the same DVD off of some guy on BT (even though, legally since you upload as you download, you're in the wrong regardless), then you're legally fine. However, if you're sharing your copy of the DVD (letting people download it for example) and they don't own a copy (or you don't know if they own one), then it's illegal.
Hence why they usually go after people that are sharing the files, and not the ones downloading them. - Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@everyone telling me im a liar....
My bad, could have sworn I saw a circuit city once (and iv never been out of canada) so I just assumed. Guess im just crazy - AdamZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8We pay levies on blank CDs (technically, the manufacturer pays, but it's passed on directly to customers). Those levies compensate record labels and artists for "private copying". It was first done with blank tapes in the 70s or 80s, but CDs were later added. It only covers music, and only covers music copied for personal use. A court ruled in (IIRC) 2004 that downloading music was covered under the private copying exception. So that's downloading.
Uploading I'm not quite as clear on. I believe that since we don't have what is known as a "make available" right, it is legal to share files. IIRC, a court made the analogy with photocopiers in libraries. It's not the library's fault if you commit copyright infringement by copying a book, since the photocopiers can be used for fair dealing purposes as well (which is Canada's version of fair use, but slightly more restrictive). In the same way, it's the person who downloads copyrighted material who commits infringement, since in the court's opinion, P2P is more like "the downloader copying from the uploader" than "the uploader copying and giving to the downloader".
So overall, sharing music is legal in Canada, but sharing movies isn't. - Idva, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I can't find the article online, but it is NOT illegial to download in canada, only upload / share.
- ciar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"I worked at the Source for 6 months and every movie we played was pirated, usually the night before
We were actually instructed to not purchase movies with the stores money, my district manager told my manager."
read comments before you comment. - Roflworthy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I think it's legal to download stuff, just can't sell the downloaded stuff.
- winnopeg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7What store might this be? =)
- Nerdculture, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I work at Circuit City currently... they can easily write off the costs for movies to be used for display purposes. This just doesn't seem necessary.
- Kaer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I work at local The Source as a Computer Tech, I pretty much take care of all computers in the store, including the ones on display.
Since our store isn't all that big, we don't have room to have dozens of TVs on display so we only have 2-3 on the floor with Spiderman 2 looping. But as for the laptops, I download 1080p trailers from Apple.com and loop them. We use the trailers to sell the laptops claiming that they are "HD Ready". We'll rotate the trailers from time to time also so that it doesn't get bored. Out of 6 laptops, we have one running The Simpsons trailer, another running 300 trailer, and a third one running a 8 minute Spiderman 3 trailer on a 22" Acer wide screen display. All other computers are running the official The Source screensaver.
It sucks since we don't get any promotional material from head office, we pretty much had to make our own arrangements with other stores to get some material. We also have one display on the outside of the store that loops the Source commercial, but we're going to change that soon with our own material. - Hayl, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@actorboy (#6552978)
"they're" - NickDinadis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I briefly worked for the source, they were by far the worst company I have ever worked for, they screw you out of commission, lie and cheat and encourage you to do the same to customers. It took me a month or more to get paid after I left and never received a t4 slip.
I strongly suggest not supporting this company whenever possible. - dextrouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Kind of.. actually Circuit City bought InterTAN Canada which owned the rights to the name Radio Shack. InterTAN Canada was a spin off of the Tandy Corporation (Radio Shack) - along with InterTAN Australia and InterTAN Britain. Funny thing about TANDY - the day they sold InterTAN Britain stocks jumped $7!
Radio Shack realised who bought their name, Circuit City, and considers them a major competitor. Thus a major law suit followed trying to force InterTAN to stop using the name. InterTAN agreed to pull the name and change it so long as Radio Shack wouldn't use it in Canada for 7 years. Radio Shack agreed and thus literally overnight (June 1, 2005 I think) Radio Shack became the Source by Circuit City.
Then the folks at Radio Shack decided to bring locations back to Canada as dealer stores - kind of like a franchise. The first REAL Radio Shack since the 80s opened in Marlbourough Mall in Calgary, Alberta. It FAILED MISERABLY! InterTAN employees were ordered to meet and beat all Radio Shack prices to Radio Shack stores located in the same mall. Radio Shack pulled out of Canada a couple of months ago with a major loss. InterTAN essentially chased them away for using the name although they had agreed not to. It was actually very excited working for them at the time! It was kind of a feeling of eat my shorts Radio Shack.. - fittysix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I doubt this is company standard issue. As I said above, some employee probably got tired of watching the same movie 1000 times.
- MastaB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The Gamestop closest to where I live has tons of pirated movies - printed case and all - for sale alongside all the other DVDs. I pointed this out and they said "we know...someone traded them in to someone who didn't know the difference"...and that was all they said...
- Makaveli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6lol
aXXo is the best damn rippper on the bit torrent network. I laughed when I looked at the photo,
you would think they'd have the video playing at all times to avoid something like this taking place.
Regardless..... I would have burnt the movies and not bought them also ,cuz i'm a broke mutha-ShutYoMouth
but seeing curcuit city,Radio shack or whatever doing this ,is sorta surprising to say the least - th3wiz4rd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Not surprising... I was at the mall a couple of weeks ago and saw a booth demoing Archos PVPs. I scrolled through the file list on one of their Archos 604s -- there were about 10 aXXo rips and a couple of ViTEs on it. One or two even had TPB at the end of the file name (I wonder where they got that?).
- OmniMe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I used to work at a CompUSA and we would get a DVD, expense it, throw it out on the floor in a player and it would promptly get stolen within the same day. Game console were the same way. The only way we could combat it was the make a copy of the DVD we just expensed and put the rip out on the floor. The retail DVDs that were expensed were kept in a drawer in the warehouse.
- lostradamus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6A retale outlet??
- darkstar2052, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5>well... i work at a retale outlet ( also in Canada :) ) and in the stereo / cd department
>all of the music we played so people could here what the stereo sounded like
> was pirated... ( from limewire and torrents ).We probably aren't impostors do this
>but all the boughten music sucks ass... and ya... my manager ( not know that the
>music is downloaded ) always is like... omg you have the best music
>on when u work :)
Retale? People could here? We probably aren't impostors do this? all the boughten music? Not know that the music is downloaded? And the ever ubiquitous U to abbreviate You. And if your
manager ever is LIKE OMG...
Jeff Foxworthy reference: If you make sentences like this... you might be a redneck.
At best, I expect you spend much of your time at work sending text messages on your phone.
At worst, I expect you would not make any money on Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader. -
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