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- general13, on 10/12/2007, -8/+266Wait...isn't there a lot more to running a country than just buying an island??
Some thoughts...
1) Food/water/supplies.
2) Electricity.
3) Medical
4) Avoiding that pesky "invasion" thing
5) Internet line !?!?!? What, they're going to pay for their own submerged, ocean-bottom OC-45??!?
6) Wal-Mart. Gotta have one.
I may be crazy, but the last island *I* bought didn't come with those accommodation's. Did have lots of disease-carrying insects though. - IamBobX, on 10/12/2007, -13/+246You know I will laugh when the RIAA and the MPAA hire a bunch of Mercenaries to take over this country. Not like they don't have the money :P
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+85$20000? They're not even going to buy a closet in some backwater country for that. Geez, get a dose or reality and stop the games.
- tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+71Because $20k buys you 4 part time employees at mcdonalnds, not an army.
- pap3rw8, on 10/12/2007, -2/+69I'm still hoping for a pirate satellite. Or a TPB base on the moon.
- wbeavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+65The current "government" on Sealand took it by force. Why doesn't Pirate Bay use the donations to get an army and take Sealand by force. They are PIRATES after all. arrrrr
- firefox15, on 10/12/2007, -5/+67They obviously don't think so. Allofmp3.com anyone?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+57Hell, they'll be hteir own country. Why couldn't they start a military of their own? After all, they are pirates, they're going to have their own island, and they're going to be their own country...naturally they should have some ships. You know, the Russian mob could probably hook them up. If I remember correctly, Soviet-era subs, with missiles + captain and crew for a year, go for $5-9million.
While we're at it, why not toss in a few SAMMs, a couple hundred AKs, grenades, a few T-80 battle tanks, and a MIG? All in all, you've got yourself a pretty good miltary for $20,000,000 or so. - dcipjr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42They should go for an island in the Carribean....you know....
- ZetaVu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+44You know what, forget the island, I say go for a hollowed out volcano, much cooler and easier to defend!
Still, if they really want an island, wait another year or so, as the arctic ice sheet melts, discover one of the newly formed islands and claim it as your own.
Oh, wait, it'll probably get engulfed as the sea levels rise. Ok, back to the volcano. - leftfoot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42When the RIAA or MPAA show up, stab em' in the eye, and give them an eyepatch and say "ARGHHH, your one of us now!"
- IamBobX, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41@fastfood15
If (Big if) the MPAA did decide to "declare war" against Sealand, they would just hire some Mercenaries, the Mercenaries would come in and do their job and disappear. It's not like they would say "We are the RIAA, we declare war." No one would ever see any of the Mercenaires. I don't think the Mercs would know officailly who was hiring them either.
Just my 2 cents and you can have change. :P - WarPirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+37http://www.privateislandsonline.com/davis-island.htm - $27,000 CAD
- treyuteee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+36Thats the single greatest idea I've ever heard.
- rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+35"1) Food/water/supplies.
2) Electricity.
3) Medical
4) Avoiding that pesky "invasion" thing
5) Internet line !?!?!? What, they're going to pay for their own submerged, ocean-bottom OC-45??!?
6) Wal-Mart. Gotta have one."
1) Hunt, Gather, Farm, Supply Ships
2) A combination of solar and wind power is very feasible. If more power is needed, and depending on the location, they can look into geothermal.
3) Simply choose an island close to another with a hospital. Keep EMS teams on island and evac via helicopter. Or, once you obtain sovereign nation status, get global aid money to build and staff medical facilities.
4) Form strategic alliance with another nation or simply buy equipment and crew from Russia.
5) If no fiber connections are available, satellite uplink.
6) You wouldn't want Walmart to ruin your new economy before you even had one. Best wait until your new country reaches superpower/glut status.
Pitcarin Island is a near perfect example of how this can be set up. Although not a sovereign county, it is owned by the British, it is a semi-remote island near French Polynesia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Island - orielbean, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29I can see it now...sweaty-palmed, overweight computer developers shooting off the first salvo of mentos & DC powered rockets...I smell a movie in the making.
- fastfood15, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31that would be an act of war. And subsequently the government computer would simultaneusly be hacked by the thousands of tech geeks world wide.
plus the MPAA and the RIAA are only domestic, (US), organizations. - onboleman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24I really don't care what they settle on, as long as I get a nobility title.
It would be fun to be Duke Oscar of Pirateland. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26I don't see why he's being dug down. If they relocate to their own island, it's only a matter of time before someone decides to make a covert strike and wipe out their servers; perhaps the whole island if they drank too much Starbucks that morning.
- LeeJunFan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+191) Hunt, Gather, Farm, Supply Ships
2) A combination of solar and wind power is very feasible. If more power is needed, and depending on the location, they can look into geothermal.
3) Simply choose an island close to another with a hospital. Keep EMS teams on island and evac via helicopter. Or, once you obtain sovereign nation status, get global aid money to build and staff medical facilities.
4) Form strategic alliance with another nation or simply buy equipment and crew from Russia.
5) If no fiber connections are available, satellite uplink.
6) You wouldn't want Walmart to ruin your new economy before you even had one. Best wait until your new country reaches superpower/glut status.
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You must be on a deserted island yourself!
1) These are network guys, not hunters/farmers
2) Windmills cost more money than they currently have on hand
3) Actually probably feasible, but not very economical - remember they are depending on other people to buy the island, how are they going to pay bills?
4) Again - craploads of money, the RIAA will pressure other govt's to not deal with this country just like they are pressuring them to keep piratebay out.
5) Are you f@cking serious? Have you ever seen satellite internet service? The intention of the move is to keep the site UP! Not go offline everytime it's cloudy and suffer from constant 1000ms+ latency.
7) Wal-Mart wouldn't be able to go there because there's no enough cheap labor for them to hire. - ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Blocking a satellite's transmissions would be even easier than physically severing a cable connection to an island, or similar. Or China could just shoot it down. And actually testing a satellite and getting it into orbit is HUGELY expensive, especially when you're coming into the game with no background, no experience, no decades-old space program behind you. And if they had a single failure, 1) they have no means to repair a satellite, nor, 2) no financial means to duplicate the original costly process of putting a bird into orbit.
- Xageroth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20It speaks volumes that people would rather give their money to pirates than to the RIAA/MPAA.
Declaring war over entertainment... what the hell?
"They can take our lives... but they'll never take... our Directors Cut of X-Men 3!!!" - kalleanka, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26Exactly, this is just ridiculous.
I hope you guys know there actually is a market for buying selling islands, but that usually involves multi millionaires and the price is NOT $20k. Heck, for that price I would buy my own island too.
Also, what do these morons think they can do with a island in the middle of nowhere? Put actual servers there? Drag fiber cables to the island?
Sorry, this is never gonna happen. Never. - oddmanout, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18thats a great idea, i've already been ordained online, i wonder if they'd knight me... i could be Lord Reverend Brett
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Great. Sealand was overpriced for what you got anyway.
- thefirstenemy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17It'd be a ironic twist of fate if the Pirate Bay island was plundered by pirates.
- wusupdoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I'm still not sure why they're not aiming for a satellite. The whole island thing is just a failure waiting to happen. They have to raise a metric assload of money just to get the island and find out that they're not going to be able to be their own country. As already mentioned, even if they did somehow get the world to recognize them as a country, the RIAA and MPAA have money to make things happen. The RIAA and MPAA, while both being US organizations, will certainly not take to kindly of this. These are the same organizations that sue dead people, old people, and little babies, all without making one apology. I just don't see them having a problem with having some downloaders/uploaders killed provided that it doesn't come back to them.
- bigred, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15China? Shoot down a pirate satellite? China where you can buy any app/game on any street corner for a dollar? That China? I have a feeling that China will not care too much about it.
Regardless, satellites are not feasable for high bandwidth and low latency situations like that. To get a frequency band to use is very expensive and even then, the satellite still needs to connect to servers somewhere in the world. Satellites simply relay data from one ground based location to another. They definitely aren't server farms in space. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15by any chance do you work at verizon?
- FFpixel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14If only that's all it would take...
- acumenprobitas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Piratebay would be better off using the money to decentralize themselves, that way they are harder to take down. If all of the piratebay servers are in one place, it's easier to take them out!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15to be completely honest, if they bought a big enough island and succeeded in declaring it a country, i would consider immigrating there, I could see it being a very open and free utopian country.
granted they would have enemies, but they could could me in as militia if they got attacked, i would defend it. - IEatHamburgers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Uh, why not just buy a yacht, get a powerful satellite uplink and cruise into international waters? I'm sure you can put some home-made depth charges on it if the RIAA gets an old Soviet sub.
Oh, and you gotta name the yacht "Queen Anne's Revenge." After all, you're pirates... - Firehed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@mcrosby:
$20000 = £20000? Damn, did the Pound Sterling crash massively in the last hour or so?
And FYI, the period is used as a thousands separator in many locations, just as the comma is in many others. - knupso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I have some unused vacation days.
Get a ship and some guns, I'll join ye crew ARRRR! - duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Arrrrrrrrrgh, Where do i sign up!
- dilbertmouse, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10That would royally suck. Not so much because it could happen, but because it would be impossible to retaliate. Good luck attacking an established corporation in any major country, as the best case scenario would be that you get the U.S. declaring war against your crappy old Russian sub. This is one case where the best offense is a good defense.
- Anamith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The whole pirates in space idea would be pretty cool.
- kuchino, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"Hack the Planet!"
- Stirk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10No, they wouldnt shoot it down. There is an international agreement that there are to be no weapons in space. No doubt the world would take it lightly if a random missle pops out from the U.S. and takes down a satelite
- Pix869, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13You heard wrong.
This will work.
And when it does, I will be the Grand Judge of Pirate land, and sentence to death by drowning any secret agents or mercenaries. >:] - thespanielator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8By the time Pirate Bay became self-aware it had spread into millions of computer servers across the planet. Ordinary computers in office buildings, dorm rooms; everywhere. It was software; in cyberspace. There was no system core; it could not be shutdown.
- macaddct1984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8In a lot of non-US countries, a period '.' is often used instead of a comma ',' to separate the thousands place.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator - undisputedloser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8some countries have it reversed: 1 234 567,89 in France = 1.234.567,89 in Germany = 1,234,567.89 in US/UK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#Comma_countries - Enterprise8875, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This is such a dumb idea. You cant just buy land and declare yourself a nation. This is usually and act of rebellion against the nation that owns the island. Also even if the nation of which the island is a part of allows its succession that doesn't mean its a country. To be a country other nations have to recognize your existence and no one will recognize this island as a country.
In fact sealand is not a country. It is in British waters and it owned by the British government(they just dont want the public relations nightmare of sending troops to a worthless piece of concrete). And no other nation has ever recognized it. - sagenumen, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14@ championchap:
Do you ever leave your house? Please tell me people aren't this ignorant to the world around them. In many places outside of the US, the comma and the decimal are transposed. - rderveloy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"In fact sealand is not a country. It is in British waters and it owned by the British government(they just dont want the public relations nightmare of sending troops to a worthless piece of concrete). And no other nation has ever recognized it."
When Sealand declared sovereignty in 1967, it was outside the 3 nautical mile territorial water boundary. It wasn't until 1987 that Britain's territorial waters were expanded to 12 nautical miles. - Malshew, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8But they COULD rent out space to other websites looking for a safe haven from their government.
- neonic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Oh my god, their pirates for christ sakes... So do what pirates do, and pillage and plunder an island... and set up an internet torrent tracking site :)
- ZekeSulastin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yes they do, actually.
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