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- inactive, on 06/16/2009, -9/+324The Pirate Bay owners actions remind me of that of the American Revolutionists. They have absolutely no fear at all. Plus this new service will bring in enough money to pay off those fines in possibly a year or so. Heroes.
- Solkre, on 06/16/2009, -3/+274Sounds about right. After all, we wouldn't download a car.
- H0ns, on 06/16/2009, -7/+172So you pay for a service to download pirated software/movies?
- Solkre, on 06/16/2009, -2/+154True, but the service doesn't require you to do anything illegal on it.
You can't say everyone who owns a gun will commit a crime with it. - iPwnN00bs, on 06/16/2009, -2/+130I've always been very impressed with the owners of TPB. They don't back down to anyone.
- roostersheep, on 06/16/2009, -1/+97People are willing to pay for things if the price is right for the service.
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/16/2009, -2/+85It's for internet privacy, it just means that you can download software/movies and stuff, or you might just want to keep your internet activities private like they should be in the first place.
- trane262, on 06/16/2009, -4/+87They may not have record of your usage, but they will keep records of your payments.
- TheLotusEater, on 06/16/2009, -6/+77I am in awe of these guys... I'd like to contribute some funds to their cause.
- CreateTheFuture, on 06/16/2009, -0/+63http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2135/dowloadaca ...
- Chirp08, on 06/16/2009, -2/+60It's like TV, except instead of a cable provider we are paying TPB. If the movie/tv studios weren't so greedy from the beggining they could have provided an identical service for the same kind of price and have never had an issue. At the end of the day why would I pay 30 bucks to watch a season of Entourage when that would be 1/5th of my TV bill which includes on-demand access to that show allowing me the same freedom to watch whenever as a personal copy. I'm pretty sure that 1/5th of my cable bill doesn't go towards paying for a single show on a single channel amongst 400 others. Charge fair and the majority of people will gladly pay (although you'll never get rid of every last pirate).
- shadus, on 06/16/2009, -0/+50Well there was the boston tea party...
- Stingwolf, on 06/16/2009, -3/+50"the mere fact that you purchased their VPN service is enough to land you a lawsuit or get you subpoenaed into court."
HA! You're joking, right? What's the complaint they file? "Uh, we found that the defendant purchased a VPN service. We don't know if he did anything illegal with it, as it's encrypted. We demand $150,000 per infringement he might be committing."
Do you honestly believe this case would require any more effort on your part than a letter to the judge noting how ridiculous the suit is? - jaxter2010, on 06/17/2009, -3/+46Given that you pay probably $40/month for internet, you've always paid to download pirated software/movies.
- anthropodeus, on 06/16/2009, -3/+45we need to start tar-and-feathering MPAA employees
- tomz17, on 06/16/2009, -1/+42You sure about that??? right now ISPs in most western countries do not block ANY route (esp. in the USA). They are completely uncensored. It is the american way!
That means that the first thing they block is going to bring about MASSIVE protest, and calls of censorship. There is not a single ISP in this country that wants THAT kind of PR.
Given that ISPS have not even attempted to block access to kiddie porn, snuff, terrorist websites, etc. etc. do you really think pirate bay VPN is the tipping point that will push them towards the chinese solution!? - jeremymccurdy, on 06/16/2009, -1/+37Pay for the VPN service then? Or buy a t-shirt.
- serif69, on 06/16/2009, -10/+44But gun control advocates do. Thus, people will argue that this is specifically for illicit purposes.
- srs2000, on 06/16/2009, -1/+33Paying off fines?
That won't happen. - SpoonMSU, on 06/16/2009, -1/+32<nerd>
Just so you know, you don't need BEGIN and END when using markup tags. The lack or presence of the '/' indicates opening or closing tag, respectively.
<GUESSING>...</GUESSING> would have sufficed.
</nerd> - shaunj66, on 06/16/2009, -0/+28Lower profile for sire? Well lah-de-dah! May I top up your tea, sire?
- FOR3MAN, on 06/16/2009, -6/+34Yarrrrr! *****!
- nyxerebos, on 06/16/2009, -0/+24I buy bandwidth wholesale in Europe for 0.05GBP, five euros would get about 80GB. Since I know my provider is making a profit, and TPB can buy in greater bulk, this seems plausible to me. Even most pirates won't be moving more than 2GB per day..
- wickedlogic, on 06/16/2009, -1/+23I use VPNOut.com personally.... lower profile for sire.
- vtnerd, on 06/16/2009, -2/+24I rarely, if ever, Pirate anything (and usually only do so to test something before buying), but I might subscribe to a) help support these guys financially and b) to help keep myself private on the web. I realize there are other VPN sites, but none of them have as much credibility (with me) as TPB.
- Darkyuubi, on 06/16/2009, -1/+22Wait a second, am I reading this right? for 5 Euros a month, you can have unlimited VPN bandwidth?
I mean I respect these guys and all, but if you consider the amount of people/the bandwidth these people are capable of pulling, I don't think 5 Euros is going to be anywhere enough to even cover the cost of running TPB's servers.
Whats the catch here? Or are these guys just doing it out of the goodness of their heart? - wjlaw100, on 06/16/2009, -0/+21<BEGIN GUESSING> I'm thinking its a VPN tunnel to their servers, and you route all your Internet traffic through their domain, jumping off there, meaning "anything you do" resolves to their IP address. If they "don't keep records" of where you went specifically, anything that transacts simply resolves to them. </END GUESSING>
- designet, on 06/16/2009, -1/+21yeah great, i see you've got that 'copy & paste' down to a tee....now answer the damn question.
he didnt ask what a VPN was, he asked if the encryption would apply to ALL his internet traffic or just stuff from TPB
i think the VPN encryption will only be across other users of the VPN, not across the entire net - uberduger, on 06/16/2009, -0/+19Problem with low profile ones is that you have no idea who runs 'em...
- ecoop3r, on 06/16/2009, -0/+19Dugg for showing proof.
- KlogereEndGrim, on 06/16/2009, -1/+20No ones tells you what to use your VPN for.
- Frostek, on 06/16/2009, -21/+40"The Pirate Bay owners actions remind me of that of the American Revolutionists."
What, they don't like paying their bills either? - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -1/+19Wow, 180,000 people have signed up to pay $7/month? That comes out to over $15 million/year. These guys are now going to make way more money than they ever would have with The Pirate Bay if the entertainment industry had not pushed for charges to be brought against them. Awesome.
- ninja0, on 06/16/2009, -0/+18He's right
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/16/2009, -0/+17By "really bad things", I'm assuming you're talking about kiddie porn. No respectable torrent site would ever host that stuff. Any site that does will eventually get taken down, and have it's members arrested.
- mrsteveman1, on 06/16/2009, -2/+19Perhaps everyone should read it so they know the real purpose:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
Copyright is a balance, It is supposed to end so that others can actually make useful things and benefit from the work after the author has had a chance to profit from it. We aren't promoting anything but corporate profit margins, and the life of the author plus 50 years is not limited.
***** Mickey Mouse. - PrincePickle, on 06/16/2009, -0/+17Except a VPN is not a specific to Pirate Bay. VPN's are used by many businesses and government institutions to connect office to office or users away from their office to connect back home. There is no way an ISP can claim that because their user is using a VPN connection they are downloading something illegal.
- Ravatar, on 06/16/2009, -0/+16solid12345: The problem is that the quality of movies and music is also at its lowest.
- catbeller, on 06/16/2009, -1/+17I pay for a service used by murderers and thieves called "a phone network", which I would assume has been used to:
1. Find people's home addresses
2. Give locations of people to be attacked
3. Inventory stolen goods
4. Inform partners of pickup points for stolen goods - physical goods, not imaginary property likes songs and images
5. Coordinate sexual attacks on women
6. Everything else imaginable and otherwise
So in conclusion: we don't monitor phone calls, even tho far more crime is committed on phone networks. We only track internet usage because we've been the frogs boiling, as we've been acclimated by degrees to the idea that copyright holders have a special claim to wiretapping and monitoring private citizens for corporate goals of protecting their imaginary property. - mississippiman, on 06/16/2009, -4/+19so what bill are they not paying?
- digitalpencil, on 06/16/2009, -1/+16i'd just love it if the industry realised the futile nature of their attempts to lock down 'piracy'.. IPRED is one step their taking, here in the UK they will be attempting to cripple connections of repeat offenders.
For every DMCA takedown they issue, 20 new torrents will pop up. For every tracker they attempt to topple, new ones will be established, and as they continue to push ISPs into playing Watchdog with their customers, we will establish encrypted channels, VPNs and darknets.
It's time the industry looked a little further forward than their short-term profits, abandoned these archaic media distribution models and embraced what modern technology has to offer their quickly evaporating monopoly. There is no stopping the signal, once it's out there, it's ours and as they continue to attempt to make things harder, we will simply establish new ways of evading Big Brother.
You can't stop bittorrent, you can't stop P2P and filesharing.. Too many people are engaged in it. They either need to embrace this tech and offer a competing service (as people are clearly willing to part with their money for freedom from scheduled programming) or they can continue this tired cat & mouse charade in which one morbidly obese cat, slowly trawls around after an seemingly infinite number of mice, diving in and out of holes, only to tread on a few and claim victory..
IMO, this 'war on piracy' will be looked back on by future generations as the 'war on drugs' is today, a complete, unmitigated failure.. People want what they want, might as well give it to them for a nominal fee cause putting it on the proverbial top-shelf will do nothing to stay people's desire for schedule-free content.
***** IPRED, ***** MediaDefender, ***** the RIAA, ***** the MPAA, ***** them all!
Vive la Torrent!! - JudgeMonkey, on 06/16/2009, -0/+15Besides, I love how folks instantly jump behind that.
"I deserve complete privacy, but someone who is doing VERY bad things doesn't."
It's all or nothing. You either have privacy or you don't. Once you make it speculative as to WHAT you are doing, it's no longer privacy, and it's just down to what others decide (and must therefore monitor it all.) - PrincePickle, on 06/16/2009, -1/+15I would say yes because kiddie porn, terrorist websites, snuff and whatever other seedy things doesn't cost the corporations money. The Pirate Bay does and money talks in America, especially when large companies are loosing money.
- fragMasterFlash, on 06/16/2009, -7/+21And every major ISP will be blocking access to the Pirate Bay VPN servers any minute now.
- thaprinze, on 06/16/2009, -3/+17This is awesome! Quick, someone figure out how to hack into an account so we don't have to pay for the service!
- erikvonvicious, on 06/16/2009, -1/+15@mississippiman
In my college history class we learned the birth of america was more about evading taxes than anything, also we learned the roots of almost everyone involved in pushing the deceleration of independence were in fact bootleggers...
alot of the problems were because traders in America would use British ships to carry goods but didn't feel they should have to give a cut to the shipowners... then again the British wanted to tax imports and exports from America that would never make a journey from the new world and touch British soil (an item taxed once as an import and yet again as an export)
so really nobody was right, they just had different views as to who was entitled to what... both sides had their points but it came down to how to enforce it...(you really couldn't) if your interested about similar dumb things read about the per sheet paper tax they had in the new world... that IMHO is ***** retarded... - inactive, on 06/16/2009, -0/+13Utilizing the VPN will encrypt network traffic between you and the Pirate Bay servers.
Outgoing:
HOME ----[encrypted tunnel]----> PIRATE BAY ----[regular TCP/IP/UDP traffic]----> DESTINATION
Incoming:
HOME <----[encrypted tunnel]---- PIRATE BAY <----[regular TCP/IP/UDP traffic]---- DESTINATION
The only exception to this is if DESTINATION is an SSL secured site then traffic to and from is completely encrypted all along the process.
Data from PIRATE BAY out to DESTINATION (or DESTINATION back to the PIRATE BAY servers) are capable of being sniffed but lead back to PIRATE BAY instead of your router. Basically with a VPN service such as this you are protecting yourself from your ISP and trusting your provider to keep your identity private. - KMartSheriff, on 06/16/2009, -0/+13Indeed, we would always want the lowest profile available for sire.
- borez, on 06/16/2009, -1/+14I'm confused, if I set up a VPN with the Pirate bay, does this only allow me to download from them, or will their VPN then carry all of my internet traffic?
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