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- idugcoal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Online petitions are worthless. They serve as a way for people to feel as though they're "doing something," while they're actually doing nothing.
- unreal32, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Alexa is right and Statsaholic is wrong. Plain and simple.
They're hotlinking to Alexa's graphs from within their site. Sounds like stealing to me. - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Wouldn't it simpler to boycott Amazon and tell them why their sales are going down?
- afx1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@agrabob "I thought Alexa made some spyware too? If so, why not let Amazon sue them to death."
Amazon owns Alexa.
Amazon is not suing Alexa.
Amazon is suing the owner of Statsaholic. - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7My kingdom, my kingdom for a decent grammar checker. For every 20 words I write, I seem to lose one or.
- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I'm using Firefox. I need something that can catch bad editing, not bad spelling.
- fishdan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Alexa has only worked on Firefox recently -- as a result, it's a tremendous tool for understand the web traffic of people who use IE -- in other words, idiots.
- Yorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Online petition = [Consumer saying to the Corporation] You win.
If you actually gave a *****, you'd be uninstalling Alexa and refusing to do business with Amazon. Tell them you want to cancel your Amazon account and when you are asked why, tell them. It's that simple. If only a dozen people did it, I guarantee you they'd at least post some sort of reply. Instead, they'll just ignore you. - brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm on Amazon's side, they spent a lot of time and effort building one of the best free traffic analyzers on the Internet - where do these guys get off using the Alexa brand (Alexaholic) and chart assets?
I suppose it would be ok to just create a new search engine called Googleholic, sell my own ads, and just screenscrape the results from Google? - hamoudi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3+1. Offline petitions, too. Unless there are some clandestine alternative petitions to be signed by dozens of heavyweight CEOs.
- tackle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3blog spam.
- islandinthenet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The Alexa Web Search Platform provides public access to the vast web crawl collected by Alexa Internet. Users can search and process billions of documents -- even create their own search engines -- using Alexa's search and publication tools. Alexa provides compute and storage resources that allow users to quickly process and store large amounts of web data. Users can view the results of their processes interactively, transfer the results to their home machine, or publish them as a new web service." -- https://websearch.alexa.com/
- jas168, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I actually agree. It seems the services that "Statsaholic" provides are completely dependant on leeching from Alexa. No matter how awesome statsaholic is or how "independent" their developers are, that's not really fair for them to do.
Also, I don't really trust that blog. They seem to not tell the whole story about the fued, and since the article takes such a blatent postion on the matter, it seems in their best interest to skew the story. - brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This reminds me of a great line from the Simpsons:
Mayor: "To get to the bottom of this, I the mayor have appointed a Blue Ribbon Investigative Committee"
Springfield residents:
"A Committee?!!"
"Did he say BLUE RIBBON?!"
"I'm Appeased!" - ryandoom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They should not have had to go this far with him and his site. He didn't have right to scrape their content and reform it as his own... but most of these things are settled a little easier. Even when someone takes content from another site to mash it up and make it better there is still credit to the author, which is 'usually' good enough for most places. Lame
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fishdan...your comment proves that Firefox is used by idiots.
- tb0n3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Until recently, he also plastered the Alexa name and logo all over his site, making it seem like Alexa is freely giving statsaholic/alexaholic the data. But in reality, Alexa has tried multiple times to try to block him from stealing their stats, but this guy has circumvented them each time (and even admitted to it). The guy probably could have worked out a deal with Alexa, to let him do what he's doing (without infringing on the Alexa trademarks), but he refused.
I know some people are fighting for the little guy, here, but sometimes, the little guy is really the one to blame. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Hotlinking = stealing. Even using their graphs directly is probably against their TOS.
(Oops, this comment won't be very popular.) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I remember before the US invasion of Afghanistan (I was in high school then) some of my classmates left the campus without telling anyone and went to town to join a rally. The school administration was alarmed because international schools were considered possible targets of terrorism and called the police and alerted the kids' parents. The students showed up some time during lunch break to police cars and worried parents. They were confident they had made a difference. The invasion of Afghanistan commenced several months later.
- nlubard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The web search platform is not what this guy was using, right. That's the point? They had this api and he was taking their graphs through another method?
Why do I care? - dasuberdog, on 12/24/2007, -0/+0Why does he need to hotlink? Alexa provide ability to put a graph on your site with a small code snippet...
http://www.buyzillion.com - islandinthenet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is from the Alexa Web Search web site:
"The Alexa Web Search Platform provides public access to the vast web crawl collected by Alexa Internet. Users can search and process billions of documents -- even create their own search engines -- using Alexa's search and publication tools. Alexa provides compute and storage resources that allow users to quickly process and store large amounts of web data. Users can view the results of their processes interactively, transfer the results to their home machine, or publish them as a new web service." -- https://websearch.alexa.com/ - duncan12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've got an idea. I'm going to create a site that has only one feature: It will scrape/hotlink images from another site. Maybe this one: mashable.com. I'll also wrap some spiffy javascript and ads around the images. I hope the owner of the mashable.com doesn't complain that I'm stealing their content and using up their bandwidth. I suppose I could start a PR campaign to discredit them and say something stupid like "Why don't they offer an API for their images..."
I think I'll call it mashaholic. Sounds like a good business plan. Anybody in? - Racerx52, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Booo, online petition.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Cool! An online petition! Where do I sign! They always work!
This one is even funnier. "Your honor, I move to dismiss this case on the grounds that people signed this petition." - afx1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Amazon is a huge billion dollar entity who pisses on petitions. The only thing they understand is sales. Hit 'em where it hurts.
Oh Fat Tony, you want money for doing me a favor? for shame, I'll have to say good day to you sir! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Yes, but their pro open source, liberal freedom fighters! Come on! Let's all lick their asses and feel better about ourselves for sticking it to the man.
- agrabob, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I thought Alexa made some spyware too? If so, why not let Amazon sue them to death.
- drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Alexa is full of shyt Digg is 88th no farking way and Hi-5 is 17th WTF
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2My kingdom My kingdom for Firefox for every 20 words I write it corrects the ones I make wrong
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