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- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+14I check out ThisNext fairly often and love it. I think this style will take off in many other directions and for the better.
- suo97119, on 11/21/2008, -1/+13***** websites that have ads that pop up instantly, I feel violated.
People-Powered Internet Grows Up
By: Chris Dannen
On today's Internet, algorithms rule. But a handful of startups are using large-scale human participation to offer online services that computers alone can't deliver. Can human judgment scale with the Web?
The question of the next decade is: How can we find what we want -- the perfect job, just the right pair of shoes, exactly the news that's important to us -- amidst the maelstrom of information that's available on the Web? Google, of course, is the de facto answer, it's algorithms generating a ballpark guess at what we want when we type in a few search terms. But the burgeoning mass of data on the Internet is threatening to outmode such robotic tools. So a growing number of start-ups is putting forward another strategy for filtering the Web: Use human judgment first, computer power second.
Of course, human judgment is unreliable, inefficient, expensive and difficult to scale. It's also a relatively scarce resource compared to data, which grows online at an exponential rate. Here are four people-powered sites, and how they plan to keep their people-powered business models durable as the Web shifts and swells.
ThisNext is a "product discovery tool" that lets users take recommendations on products they didn't even know existed. Founded in 2006, the site attracts about 1.4 million users per month, many of whom know they want something new -- a lamp, rug, table -- but whose queries are too broad to return useful results on other comparison shopping sites.
Sites like Amazon have been taking buyer reviews for years, but on ThisNext, user opinions don't all carry the same clout. If you're an inveterate product-suggester and people follow your personal recommendations (and therefore, your personal style), you achieve "Maven" status, a high-profile position that gives your opinions increasingly more visibility. Mavens don't get paid, but they do earn what CEO Gordon Gould calls "social capital." And social capital, Gould says, "is becoming an increasingly valuable asset in the Web 2.0 universe."
TheLadders is a career site for finding and listing jobs that pay more than $100,000. To ensure that every listing and every user meets that standard, TheLadders employs 45 full-time in-house screeners. (Sites like HotJobs and Monster have none.) As of mid-2008, those screeners are approving about 10,000 job listings per week.
Marc Cenedella, CEO of the 5-year-old company, says the model scales well -- up to a point. If the site grew to, say, 30 times its current size, "you couldn't keep the community together," he says. "It really has to be a human-sized group. At over 1,000 people, you couldn't have the elbow-to-elbow passing of knowledge. That shared judgement pool is essential."
Wigix is a household goods marketplace that's part online auction site, part stock market. Users put up "portfolios" of objects they would sell if the right offer arose. Unlike auctions on eBay, Wigix portfolios don't expire. Would-be buyers place specific limit orders -- for example, a 32-inch Sony KDL-32M4000 HDTV for $700. If that order finds a match in a seller's portfolio, Wigix executes the sale.
For this to work, sellers' listings have to accurately reflect age, model name and make of every item listed. (If, for example, a seller lists a "Flatscreen TV," that TV-buyer's sale won't execute.) To solve this problem, Wigix asks users to apply online to become "category experts" who oversee categories and check that all the listings therein have accurate information and SKU (or stock-keeping unit) information. For that service, the category experts -- who are not in-house employees -- receive a commission of 1% of the sales in their category. The more accurate the catalog listings in their area, the more sales will execute, and the more money they'll make.
Reddit is a user-generated clearinghouse for "what's new online." Like its rival, Digg.com, the site presents visitors with a numbered list of linked headlines that they can either vote up or down, depending on their taste; anyone can submit headlines, but no one is paid.
"There's a core group of Reddit users that are submitting and editing," says Alexis Ohanian, Reddit's 25-year-old co-founder. "But some point we're going to hit the ceiling of nerds on the Internet who want to share cool, geeky stories. It's depressing, but we know that we will." So to keep the 3-year-old site growing at a brisk pace, the Reddit team--which says it receives about 4.3 million unique hits per month--recently announced a new function on the site that will allow users to create Reddits for their own online communities.
November 2008 - d2002, on 11/20/2008, -0/+12Dugg for computer juice box.
- palehorse864, on 11/21/2008, -0/+8Actually People-Powered internet still seems pretty juvenille and troll like on most sites I go to. I think it has to do with the fact that it's people powered.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -0/+6Human Judgment should be able to overthrow an Algo if enough people decide that something is good or bad.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -1/+4I love how it mentions reddit. THAT deserves a Digg irony award.
- msaleem, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3People-powered without algorithms to sort and regulate the behavior and make sense of the data will be an utter failure. Look at the Digg front page for a quick example of what that would look like. People lie, cheat and are ultimately flawed. Algorithms are infallible.
- Junior612, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Where's the article? I only get an ad for a Macbook Air wannabe.
edit: thanks suo - isntreal, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3That sounds kind of like the opposite of what they said.
- cawfee, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3Internet is made of people!
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That didn't work as well as I hoped it would. - wonderbriefs, on 11/21/2008, -0/+3I'd like to agree but the effectiveness of human judgment is directly dependent on the demographic makeup of your "human powered processor."
For instance, a community of southern baptists creates a human judgment powered means to answer queries on the finer details of gene therapy. Algorithm is the way to go in this case.
I'd say it's not a question of which is ultimately better, but knowing when each is better. - inactive, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2"But some point we're going to hit the ceiling of nerds on the Internet who want to share cool, geeky stories. It's depressing, but we know that we will."
Digg's hit that ceiling, failed to innovate, and is about to fall out of Alexa's top 400 for the first time in over a year. It's the circle of life. - inactive, on 11/21/2008, -1/+3Rightly said..after all its we human who creates algo as well. If the majority of us judge a thing in similar way then Algo will adapt to our judgment.
- qwertydvorak, on 11/21/2008, -0/+2For instance, a community of diggers creates a human judgement powered means to answer queries on the finer details of gene therapy by offering to inject their genes personally but only if she don't have sharp knees.
I can picture it now, it will be just like that picture swap website that was dugg a few months back. Nothing but lots of drawings of dicks, dicks with hair, swastikas, and the occasional drawing of the word ***** in really large letters. - palehorse864, on 11/21/2008, -1/+2Thanks Suo, but please make a comment and reply to it if it's going to be that long.
- Fabbyfubz, on 11/21/2008, -2/+3This completely unrelated comment expresses my boredom.
- palehorse864, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1They don't make em that big man, they don't make em that big.
- palehorse864, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1The internet is a series of tubers!
Couch potatoes!
Btw, kudos for trying to expose the horrors of soylent green. - metapop, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1related article i found...
http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_service_lets_you_ ... - blademanx, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1What, Reddit gets a link and we don't? Boooo.
- guildford, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1Computer won't work for people but people will work like computers. This is evolution :(
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -0/+1get a bigger display
- Zorlon, on 11/21/2008, -3/+3So what we're trying to say here is... let the computers think for you, humans can't think for themselves well enough.
- ChromaVita, on 11/21/2008, -1/+1Well it worked. Your comment was extremely boring. Congrats.
In order to keep my comment from being boring, I'll add some boobs: ( . Y . )
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