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- catalysis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13PeerGuardian has never failed for me. You can even see the attempts to swarm the torrent and watch your torrent speed instantly go up when you turn it on. Swarming actually works very well if you don't know how to stop it. If your torrent is moving really slow, chances are this is happening.
- jokerthief, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12This company is just a waste of time and money. It's like trying to stop a tsunami with a broom.
- evulhotdog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Hah, and the employee's don't download stuff?
- Achilles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Getting paid to be a lamer.
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13"...the company has contracts for 9GBps of Internet bandwidth. ... It also means that employees who stay late after work to game on the corporate LAN always have a good connection."
Wow ... I might almost overcome hating the fact that my job supports the RIAA if it meant a 9GBps line to play around with after work. - angrycat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They are beginning to show up on legitimate torrents as well. They will appear as unique peers sending you pieces that end up failing checksum. I believe by default most BT clients ban a peer after they serve you anywhere from 3-5 pieces that failed checksum. Typically it's easy to identify because they all share the same IP domains, it' just a matter of sorting your peer list by IP, selecting the decoys and banning their IPs.
Strangely utorrent, which is one of the mainstream BT clients, doesn't allow users to ban peers manually, the only way to ban is using the checksum failure procedure I mentioned above. When you have 200+ fake peers on a torrent, and you can only ban them 1 by 1, it can waste a lot of your time and bandwidth. I still don't understand why utorrent's developers refuse to implement this feature that other mainstream clients have been offering for quite some time now, like Azureus for example. - aussieaubs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7So what better way to catch the pirates in the act , other than be a pirate yourself....
Arghh me hearties!!! ;-) - scabbers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Hahaha. Too bad everyone uses bittorrent nowadays.
Faked torrents get flagged up in the comments pretty damn fast. - datalife, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Doesn't stop me
- jackhole, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The greatest irony would come when you viewed your BitTorrented movie, which, due to BT's bias towards local sources over remote sources, would consist almost entirely of MediaDefender static.
- jonapete2001, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It is not called stealing. It is called copyright infringement. You can't steal 1's and 0's. I am not a thief, I just might violate obsolete copyright laws.
- riccohasdug, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Gotta love it. This company is making huge sums of money in order to act as the digital equivalent of a speed bump.
- sergeantmudd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You know what has never failed me. Using a small private tracker. It's not rocket science. If it is the second hit on google for "Deja Vu torrent" you gotta realize the media companies know about it before you. With a small private tracker, the traffic is small enough that a few admin can police it.
- mraustin1337, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6My Todo List:
Get a job @ MediaDefender.
Download all the movies I've ever wanted.
I'm happy when I get 500KBps. I can't imagine the speeds they get. - NoSpaceForRent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Say what you want. I bet it would be fun place to work at. Tons of music and videos to "check," huge bandwidth, and just sitting around all day knowing you're messing with some 12 year olds Blink 182 download.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I always wanted to know how they have the corruption distributer set up. 9 GB/sec up....damn
- Markpdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For the people new to this, use peer guardian to avoid these people!
Url here: http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2
Then, edit your hosts file http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
And make sure you have a good hardware firewall! Don't assume the built in windows crap will protect you! - zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Despite there clames they are very easy to walk around.
One small company can't really disrupt 14 million file traders.
They were kind of effective against kazaa But gnutella, emule, torrents, and newsgroups just blows pass them.
MediaDefender take your stupid and get out of here. - deathscytheh64, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I agree, ABadInAlbany, talk about the perfect bribe to any tech professional. Ethics be damned, I'd do it if it meant my DOTA sessions were lag free. M-m-m-m-m-onster kill!
- linuxwarz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree. With PG, you can see all the torrent fakers, etc. I'm not surprised about how many torrents are infected by these people. I have seen PG stop them from doing this.
They only win because not everyone is aware of blacklist technologies that prevent systems like theirs from infecting downloaded files. - KamikazeeDriver, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"they simply state they are providing a service to help media companies make more money"
And I'm sure that 9GB connection isn't costing those media companies the same money they hired them for to begin with. - endorphin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3those scumbags.
- richard2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Isn't what they're doing classified as denial of service (which is illegal in the USA)?
- TopherT, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Lol, i was totally thinking about installing a media server on their line and run bit torrent off it. That'd be wicked cool and great irony.
- Arkonnan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I don't mind these guys all that much. I mean, look at the alternative. What would you prefer, being sued or being tricked into downloading a fake?
With the latter, all it costs you is bandwidth.
It's generally easy to spot the fakes anyway. Just wait for a day or two after a release is posted and check the comments section of the originating torrent site, and you'll see hoards of angry downloaders decrying its authenticity. - meeee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What would you use that 9Gbps line for, if not for P2P? :-)
- shlolz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4At least it's a creative way of fighting pirating.
- TomP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://www.mediadefender.com - Yuck...
- robinator08, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This isn't really that large of a threat. The scene can still maintain their extremely strict 0day deadline.
- ackza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0these guys deserve to be given 10 milligrams of lsd and then sent into a war zone after a suicide bombing.
I wonder what type of personalities they will have when they come out of that scenario? - sergeantmudd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2They admit they aren't stopping piracy. He says his service is only a speedbump. But a speedbump is enough to get through the first few weeks of a new release's sales bonzana.
- Travelsonic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Get over what? If you ask me, YOU need to get over the fact that your high-horsism isn 't stood for.
If you get goods or services you didn't pay for it is wrong, all the time? WTF are you smoking? People make things and distibute things for free, people spend their own time doing charity work, IT HAPPENS. That's their choice, and if they CHOOSE to do it that's good, just because you fail to see it means jack *****. Sure that should be their choice, but that's all we agree on, or is even close to relevant for that matter. Your point becomes irrelivant since your definition is not even close to the legal definition of theft, which is in question here if you havn't realized. The legal definition REQUIRES the misapropriation of property with the intent to deprive of that property. Since music that is being distributed is NOT even close to a service, as the music is not being performed on the artist or comapny's time when played on a computer (minus live readio, but that's not relevant now) theft of services doesn't apply. I suggest reading it and becoming more informed when talking legaliies before putting your credibility on the line. - KamikazeeDriver, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1of course they do, that's why they've got that high speed connection. The download happens so fast, they don't get caught.
- BenDrincoln, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2High horsism? isn't stood for?
Slow down junior, I know your hands were shaking when you typed that. Really struck a nerve huh?
Credibility? I'm sitting on my ***** couch watching TV and surfing digg...
*shakes head* - h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1No.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_service - TheCash, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Swarming would explain why the copy of Apocalypto this guy brought to movie night last week kept freezing and jumping even though the image it was burned from looked completely intact.
No big loss though, the movie was overly-gory and boring anyway. - DrawingTheSun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1at least thats what they admit they are
they don't say that they will prevent filesharing forever, its a short term attack and it seems to work - gmurray, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2For ever corrupt file and decoy packet they send, I.... well, I just bark loudly.
- BenDrincoln, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2If you receive goods or services you didn't pay for it's wrong. ***** up laws or high ideals don't mean *****.
Get over it. - KarbonKopy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I wish I knew what files they were serving. I'd set up a server just to suck their bandwidth. Hit em where it hurts!
- taseedorf, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1it's so funny how people think of anything involving the RIAA as bad. Hmm..well, the people they represent made a product. You took the product and paid nothing for it without their permission. Thats called stealing. Stealing is illegal. Get it morrons? Yeah, I pirate TONS of movies and games and what not, but that DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT! It's still illegal, and
- sergeantmudd, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Why are they scumbags?
Of all the evil professions I can think, this has to be one of the more benign. Just because they don't have a cool catchphrase to hide their evil behind like "designing the next generation of weapons to help our troops" doesn't make them scumbags. Especially since they aren't spouting righteous *****, they simply state they are providing a service to help media companies make more money. You have to respect their honesty and the openness of the interview.
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