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- MattCutts, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6"There is no way on earth to detect paid links."
Strangely enough, I've written about the idea of undetectable paid links and undetectable spam earlier this year: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/undetectable-spam/ - indicas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1and what if that jump was due to social bookmarketing? how does google (or any SE for that matter) differentiate between paid links and links from sites like digg?
ps: hi matt, i love the cat and mouse game we play :) - Voodooengine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Honestly, without paid links some webmasters can pay for hosting. If a webmaster installs ads on there site, adblock comes along and blocks them all. Webmasters can ask for donations, but I haven't recieved any in my desperate time of need.
Google bans publisher accounts for click fraud, but many people are banned by "mistake", what other alternative is there? I sell links, and post. I disclose most of them, if google doesn't like it then they don't have to archive those links. I see nothing wrong with it, people need to make money. - pamphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1By the way, please excuse the word mixup above.
I meant to ask
"What's better ? Short Term Advertising or Long Term Advertising ? "
and
"Google looks down on link selling because it reduces the need to use Adwords." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2MattCutts,
Respectfully,
The internet is based on commerce... They're all paid links! - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1disclosurepolicy.org
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There is no way on earth to detect paid links. I get approached constantly by people in India who want to sell me back link service.. How do you detect something like that..
Also places like ReviewMe.com where you pay for a "Review" of your site. This is nothing but glorified paid links.
I think google has its work cut out for them on the paid link matter. - NeO1seo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Great article Li! And Lee Odden always cracks me up (I think it's cause I can hear his accent in my head when I read his posts)
- greggorio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This post exemplifies the importance of check and balances for the Search Industry.
- SearchRank, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"There is no way on earth to detect paid links."
Actually it would be better said that there is no way on earth to detect EVERY paid link which is very likely one of the reasons that prompted Matt to ask for the Internet community's help in reporting paid links last month. - resta6, on 01/12/2009, -0/+0which is why Google would need to hire a few people to watch the tagged search results, and separate the good from the bad. Not that hard to do really, after the initial banning of paid links websites, all you have to do is hire a few people that like to read the 'OMG OMG CHECK THIS OUT" content(digg would be a good place for those), and then they just moderate by adding to a ban log new paid links services.
- pamphile, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1At one time Franchising and Pay Per Click were seen as unethical.
No one is impartial or unbiased when talking about this topic.
Google looks down on link selling because it takes
reduces the need to use Adwords.
Blog link selling is a long term advertising option.
PPC is a short term advertising option.
What's better ?
Long Term Advertising Short or Long Term Advertising ?
The question you should ask yourself is
What's better for my business ? Following G*'s business plan or my own ?
Again, remember that at one time Franchising and Pay Per Click was seen as unethical.
Today those industries have their own rule, expectations and "laws".
Marcel
http://www.blogpostsforsale.com - resta6, on 01/12/2009, -0/+0agreed, with the billions Google has, it can afford to find paid links services, and block their links from the search results. Shouldn't be that hard to do, and to find new services, just run a function that reports the highest jumps for sites with little traffic.
For example, if www.mysuperduperwebsiteaboutcathair.com suddenly jumps from 200,000 to page 1 of the results, it shouldn't be that hard to see that its a paid link user, then all they have to do is see which sites linked tothem, and block the obvious paid linkers from the database. - beercosoftware, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Dearest Matt,
As soon as google made a deal with myspace, all our adsense for sitespaces.net got shut down. These are the same unchanged adsense ads that were up on the website for years. Google made no warning and shut them down the DAY they made the deal with myspace.
OK, with that out of the way, what about paid blogs, like payperpost bloggers. That's not fair either. How does that factor into pagerank?
Chris - http://www.beercosoftware.com - finkployd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Nice free (but nowhere near organic) link there Matt!
Was it really necessary? Your name is in the description and if someone reads the article they will see at least one link to your blog in it, right up there in the first paragraph.
I wonder why you haven't been dugg down for the link to your blog.


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