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- Kamino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Read it earlier at Teletext today and I can say I feel very emberassed to be Dutch. We always have been very soft and open-minded (as y'all know) towards other beliefs and opinions but this definately is out of line.
The country is filled with immigrants that don't even speak the language? - OK
A very mild drugs policy? - OK
Alcohol at 16? - OK
Sexual intercourse under 12? - NO WAY - Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm afraid a lot of people (non-Dutch, and apparently some Dutch too) don't know what this is really about and that this article will contribute to a wrong image of the Dutch political system, so let me clarify a few points.
Firstly, paedophilia is not equal to raping children.
Secondly, this a matter of free speech; obviously raping a child is still a crime but starting a political party that represents paedophiles is not (just like you can start a party that represents murderers). As long as you don't commit the crime, there's nothing wrong with starting a party.
Thirdly, I have yet to hear from a single person that thinks this party is serious. The other points they make or also laughable (e.g. no integration policy!!!).
And finally, I don't think this is a 'real' political party. I think they only wanted to start a discussion and raise awareness Even if they were, I haven't heard of a single person that would support this party, so they virtually wouldn't get any votes.
You shouldn't feel embarrassed, you should feel proud that the freedom of speech still exists.
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with them at all and child rapists make me angry, but apparently a lot of people think that starting a political based on your views (no matter ho much you disagree with them) is wrong.
Keep in mind, people still actually have to vote for them.
These people want to lower the legal age at which people can have sex, what other way to do that then starting a political party?
Remember, a paedophile isn't necessarily a dirty 40 year old man going around mass raping little kids.
So in conclusion, I have mixed feelings about this.
At first I thought: Those sick bastards, but when I thought about it, they're doing what they believe to be right thing legally. - szelij, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Hmm well the Dutch certainly are...very liberal. But this is a stretch...16 is a good age, people don't need to have sex before that. And if they do, they should be around the same age...adults have no reason to sleep with children.
- charmedguy18, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@coustoe
***** you. Those are totally different things, and get some education. Taking advantage of little kids and having sex with other men are so far apart. The fact that you would even say that says a lot about how much of a little ignorant ***** you are. - stonebear, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2At first glance, this seems pretty edgy. But, if one looks at cultures which are not based on modern Judeo-christian morality, 12 is not an unreasonable age to begin carnal knowledge, and bestiality, more often than not, is merely blustered at. Perhaps it seems more disturbing than it really is?
The title is technically misleading, however. The law does not seek to legalize pedophilia, the love of the prepubescent. It seeks to legalize pederasty, which is really the love of very young adults. - CmdrBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You say Judeo. Do you know the Talmud and Koran says sex with children is "okay"? Maybe, with the luck of Lucifer it will one day be made legal to have sex with anything we please, including newborn infants (with consent of course). See when they cry it's just the learning stage. The last time I pulled out to late and got my brothers 8 yr. old sister pregnant. She was worried and almost died but shes okay now. When I broke him in at first he was scared because it hurt a little and the blood was leaking from his ass for days but it's all okay now and he gets to eat dinner if he behaves. See It's not rape at all and they actually learn to like it after a while. So I for one support their efforts because it's only natural. Children have no rights anyway.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Dutch are pretty cool, they already have teh legalized man-bong love. A bong, a girlie, and dog... woah, how cool is that???
- CmdrBob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh I see now, I was just confused is all. See, they aren't young children, they are "little people" thats all. So when they want a drivers licence or a Heroin habit we should support it! One good point is, how is that little ***** toy going to earn their dinner if they don't "put out"? Sick bastards don't deserve "tolerance".
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ooooo, i have to disagree on the age point. i have a number of friends who were molested as children. it was a terrible and traumatic experience that will haint them for the rest of their loves..
they certainly all said "no" and "stop," but for some reason, a pedophile isn't too concerned with what the child wants-- duh, they're doing this cuz all they care about is fulfilling their sexual desire. it is self-serving and will legalizing it certainly result in the vast majority of child participants doing so AGAINST THEIR WILL and with NO WAY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. children also lack the verbal and emotional wherewithal to stand up to manipulation and abuse from an adult.
there may be plenty of 12-year-olds who could actually be able to engage in this activity in a healthy manner, but they are exceptions to the rule. just because some grown man/woman wants to sleep with little boys/girls is no reason to place the importance of the sexual fulfillment of some perv above the well-being (and most likely the wishes) of a child. - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2you are an ass, and your subpositions and statements are based in bogotry and prejudice, not truth. sexuality is a matter of biology and genetics, not of your opinion.
pedophelia (and bestiality for that matter) and homosexuality are in no way linked, and for you to imply that they are shows only your ignorance of the facts and of this situation.
if you can't distinguish between two adult men or two adult women having sex with each other and an adult exploiting a child or animal for sexual pleasure, then you're retarded. - coustoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1People who respond to a supposition with anger and childish tantrums are usually the naive and ill informed who idiotically defend what few scraps of half truths they perceive they know.
tell me how they are different? can you explain exactly why people should be denied their sexuality rights? due to any discrimination whether ageism/sexuality/ or even discrimination based on species.
If anything you seem to be a hypocritical bigot or just too uneducated/stupid? to realize that you can't be selective in your discrimination, This reminds me of those people who say I like all races except blacks
Obviously you have a long ways to go before you grow up and learn that tolerance does not mean only WHAT YOU think is acceptable. Youll still a kid. next time throw your tantrum and your ability to articulate with four letter words in front on your mom. - coustoe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Weird, but I dont see that much of a difference in the weird factor between two people of the same sex wanting to have sex with each other and people wanting to do the same with animals and kids.
Its all out there but I figure eventually they'll have shows on tv of people and their love lives with their 12 year lovers and dogs. Thats the way it started with Homosexuality. Remember it used to be just GL (gay and lesbian) then it expanded to GBL (gay lesbian bisexual) now its GLBT (gay lesbian bisexual transgendered), guess theyll have to add expand it to GBLTPB (pedophilia bestiality) - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2wow. that's ***** up.
- CrazyNic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Welcome to CrzyLand
- trollenlord, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Yeah bury the story kids, fast. Just because it challenges your views and feels threatening. Go for it. Just because it doesn't have shiny robots or something else, it might even (OMG!!!) require you to think!
I'm not for their cause but they seem to be dead serious over there at Amsterdam about the thing.


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