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Outlaw biker gangs have set up their own IT departments

calsun.canoe.ca — Organized crime groups, including outlaw biker gangs, have set up their own highly sophisticated IT departments for debit skimming and credit fraud operations. The IT expertise among organized criminal gangs is on par with legitimate business.

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  • robdiggity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+45"The IT expertise among organized criminal gangs is on par with legitimate business."

    That is to say, it's barely passable?
  • Blakechi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+37Do they get to wear jeans on Fridays?

    Imagine how fun the annual Christmas party would be!
  • MakiNavaja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+35Do they shoot people from the armed robbery department when they come in with questions about printing MS Word documents?
  • ozid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34I wonder what if they use linux or pirate copies of Windows?

    Who do I turn my resume in to?
  • cablefish, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21I'm having trouble with my computer. I've tried everything to get it to boot. I've tried hitting it, I've tried yelling it....
  • sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19"Hey man, the wifi on my harley is down again..."
    "Sorry I can't help you, y''ll have to talk to Skull in IT."
  • wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Just like a pocket protector and a TI-83 do not make you smart...
    Colors & a ride do not make you stupid. This type of prejudice is why this activity can operate.
  • msprout, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta.
  • SwissCamel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"The IT expertise among organized criminal gangs is on par with legitimate business."

    If it's anything like the staff at PC World it's probably light years ahead.
  • THX1212, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Most people think of bikers as being rather unintelligent but biker gangs have always been surprisingly innovative criminals. Certainly, they seem to feature much more intelligent criminals than most street gangs. I never cease to be amazed at some of their exceptionally clever drug running and money laundering schemes, for example. Their foray into computer fraud doesn't really surprise me.
  • JFrizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I can hear the song now
    "Get your web site running....on the information highway." "Lookin out for smokey, and whatever comes my way."
  • miglaugh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Isn't this just another iteration in the loop of "go where the money is"?
  • paralleljay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Are they hiring? I couldn't find the Careers section on their web site :(
  • celeb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Fortunately your statement is completely untrue, computers and EVERYTHING mix!

    and "That's like hearing about Best Buy Geek Squad starting their own professional football team." ??? It's completely NOT like that in any way.

    Where do I submit my resume:)
  • Saad85, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9yes, hello? yea, hi. i'm trying to rob a client and i can't get him to give up his debit number. yea. no, i have him at gunpoint. no, i've tried hurting him. what? no, you can't talk to him. ... if i shoot him he can't give me the pin. what? NO I CAN'T HOLD, THE POLICE ARE ON THEIR WAY.


    ... the line "on par with legitimate business." kinda took the fear away.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm down for it. This whole white collar tech dude thing is getting me down.

    I'm ready for a leather vest and a bad boy scooter. I just wish I could find a job opening :(
  • 5xSTUN, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Trouble with being the IT guy for a street gang comes when you make your first mistake, which immediately becomes your last mistake.

    You don't get a reprimand or get fired, you get, well, something nasty, at the end of which you're likely dead.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Now we're all going to have to search for Bluetooth devices with our cell phones every time we draw money out of an ATM.
  • Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3you dont get fired
    you get fired at
  • angusm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Born to be Wired ..."
  • mojibyrd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The biggest fraudsters still are the government who are controlled by the n.w.o. globalists
  • meshman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"3) why would you call bikers Thugs?"

    They didn't. Note the heading, "outlaw biker gangs". Maybe you don't realize this but the Hell's Angels in Canada are dirtbags. They are scum that feed off of crime and flaunt the law. Their 'club' is based on extortion, greed, drugs, prostitution and murder. They also run legitimate business so they have something to hide behind and supplement their activities. Sure, people say neighborhoods were they're located are safe but that's the strategy; you don't ***** where you live. Quit the opposite so that neighbors can say it's safe with them around. I would love to see the Wyatt Earp principle apply here; "I see a red sash and I'll shoot the man wearing it!". Is that a real Hell's Angels patch? This is a real bullet tearing through your skull. If scum like this is giving your legit club a bad name, what are you doing about it? You defend them.
  • wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It is one of those jobs where you have to know someone who knows someone.
  • jonstafari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1funny... i recall reading a member of the Genovese crime family employing IT people for their "business". it's not surprise that criminal elements have adopted "IT" into their businesses.

    time to get my resume "out there"

    ...oh, and i feel this info is dated. especially after reading some other articles on criminal organizations and "IT"
  • Tron_S, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Just goes to show, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    1) Biker Clubs are NOT gangs (most of them, anyway)
    2) Some of the best IT guys I know are Bikers, including myself
    3) why would you call bikers Thugs? If a biker is messing with you, you probably deserve it


  • wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ meshman – They in the article didn’t call bikers “Thugs”. The OP (golgotha) did, Tron_S was responding to him. Being that Tron_S is a self proclaimed biker, I am sure that he is aware of the Hell’s Angels reputation *worldwide*. Read the *whole* thread before you rant.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Well I guess I need to get a bike and a gun then. Hello Diners card - goodbye corporate America!
  • hcharger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 When I lived in the city, my neighbours were Hells Angels bikers. I'll tell ya, that was the safest neighbourhood I ever lived in and everytime I needed something done, the fellows were there. I have severe arthritis.
    If I had a choice between Hells Angel neighbours and a cop, quess who I'd choose? The Angels, ha ha, at least I know who they are!
  • HazDaGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had the job of "rabbit" for a southern club. I'm intrigued by this concept and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    %-)
  • ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5holy ***** - just when I thought being an admin couldn't possibly get any better.....
    I wonder if cocaine, hookers and beer make up the majority of perks?
  • hiPpymIck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2here is your interviewer..
    http://www.picture-box.com/Resources/Andrew-Shaylor.jpg
  • Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2well
    for one definite thing
    they are not stupid
    they have perfect cover (as a biker gang the most unsuspecting case for computer fraud)
    they have the funds to do it obviously (Likely from other thefts and crimes)
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Shh, don't tell them.

    Actually tell them all you want, we'll just replace the atm machines with dummy models. $30,000 in cash = $1,000,000 in profit from enough transactions
  • Dested, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Gender misleading.
  • BenDrincoln, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0dested, say hello to your girlfriend Steve for me.
  • inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2And yet they drive around on low performance, poor handling expensive vehicles with no cargo capacity whatsoever. They are probably smarter than most street gangs only because they can afford to drop $10k on a worthless machine, and they needed some experience in life (getting caught, or watching their friends get caught) to reach that point.
  • leoCT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Why wouldn't they? The problem to work for them is that you cannot exactly leave whenever you want.
  • freezervv, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Then I took a 12 gauge to it and bought a Mac. My Mac is just so much easier to use -- I honestly don't think I'll ever go back to windows.

    My name is !#$% ^@#!@#, and I worked security for The Rolling Stones.
  • mikelieman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2If it's anything like the legitimate businesses I've seen, it's light years ahead of them.

  • BenDrincoln, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Title misleading.
  • Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Doesn't everyone? LOL!
  • micahman, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1I hope they call tech support.
  • filefly, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1@ Ratteler

    Laughing at your own jokes? Tsk tsk.
  • golgotha, on 10/12/2007, -19/+0Biker gangs and sophisticated IT departments?

    That's like hearing about Best Buy Geek Squad starting their own professional football team.

    Face it: thugs and computers don't mix.

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