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- listed, on 11/25/2007, -17/+263You know what! Seriously ***** the MPAA & RIAA.. Here is why.. they are so far behind when it comes to distribution of their content. Recently, I've tried to make an effort of purchasing the movies and music I've downloaded off bittorrent, and that's alot of content that I was willing to legally purchase. I saved up to 1,000 $ and was ready to pay back my dues. I was only paying for the stuff I enjoyed, and stuff worth purchasing. That is the beauty of bittorrent.
Tried all the different online stores, and places where I can legally purchase or view their content (Zune Marketplace, iTunes, Amazon, Spiralfrog, Hulu, etc.. , and failed at every attempt. Why? Because this content is always only available for you to download if you live in the US. I live in Egypt! and I have no idea why you would ***** restrict your content only to the US, if you are against piracy, and trying to reduce piracy. It makes no ***** sense! And also wtf are all those restrictions. You can only watch the content 5 times, burn it 6 times, cannot transfer to this or that. ***** YOU! A BIG ***** YOU!
You can't say I didn't try MPAA RIAA, whoever the ***** you are! I even tried to order a dvd off Amazon, but ***** you I aint paying 45 $ for a DVD + Shipment!
Here is my list of demands MPAA, RIAA, IFPI, whoever you 4-initials bitches are..
1. No geographical restrictions whatsoever
2. DRM-less, no restrictions whatsoever
3. Make your movies available for rent, and purchase. Reasonable pricing would be 2-3 $ rent, 6-8 $ purchase. (c'mon you are only paying for bandwidth)
4. CD Quality DRM-less music (320 kbps or kpbs whatever that ***** is)
5. make it easy, hassle-free,
If those demands are not met by let's say mid 2008, I am purchasing 4 2TB WD External Hard Disks, and you'll never see a penny from me.
**Sorry fellow diggers for my grammar, swearing etc.. english isn't my first language and im a lil bit high... - ArmandoM, on 11/25/2007, -2/+115Bad grammar? You did better than the vast majority of Digg. I wish I spoke a foreign (non-English for me) language that well.
Oh, and you've got a good handle on the swearing too... - sockpuppets, on 11/25/2007, -11/+99You copy and paste that in every RIAA related thread. It's getting a little old.
- misterhat, on 11/25/2007, -4/+77great post man, but i this is the third time i've seen you post it.
- britishrob, on 11/25/2007, -1/+66BREIN - please rot in hell
- ProphetSix, on 11/25/2007, -3/+58Amen brother... amen.
- chedabob, on 11/25/2007, -5/+32I haven't seen it before, and he makes some very good points. If posting your opinion again and again is what it takes for the **AA to change, then that is what we'll do.
- shad0w, on 11/25/2007, -2/+25Um, TorrentFreak is just a blog about filesharing. There are no torrents, links to torrents, or any distribution of intellectual property that they don't have the rights to.
- zennode, on 11/25/2007, -0/+19I would love to hear their reply. Yet, I doubt they will hear back form them.
- ThreeDee912, on 11/25/2007, -0/+16About the English, don't worry. You spelled 'grammar' correctly.
- rationalhead, on 11/25/2007, -2/+16i never understood how they are comparing the downloading of software with stealing a stereo.
Sure it 'might' be a loss of sale,but only if those who download actually would buy the software or buy the movie if they could not download,i just doubt that is the case for a lot of these people - listed, on 11/25/2007, -6/+19Yes I keep posting it again & again. The only reason for that, I sincerely want to be able to buy content online, and by posting this message across related-digg stories, I am hoping someone from the RIAA or MPAA would see it. I couldn't contact the RIAA, or the MPAA since you can't email non of them using their website. If someone knows how to contact them, I'd be glad to send this message to them too.
- banmaster, on 11/25/2007, -0/+13Other than iTunes (whos content I won't buy thanks to the DRM) I have found exactly the same thing. I live in Australia and am simply unable to legally buy online the content I want thanks to geographical restrictions!
- pattink, on 11/25/2007, -4/+16Because CNN or whatever newspaper you read reports on a murder, does that make them accomplices?
- Corinthos, on 11/25/2007, -4/+15If you click on his name his recent activity shows that he posted it four times.
- allywilson, on 11/25/2007, -3/+14Just...Go ***** yourself. The letter was created to show that what they did was wrong by their own actions. How can you be right by doing wrong? Grow up and read the article.
- MrTea, on 11/25/2007, -3/+14This copypasta again?
- inactive, on 08/11/2008, -1/+10It's called "being professional". It's what people with futures and good careers do.
- cliffski, on 11/25/2007, -2/+10nobody is interested in the facts. this is digg. people just want to swear and justify stealing stuff to each other.
- Haecceity, on 11/25/2007, -1/+9Merely quoting someone's article would seem to constitute "fair use" and therefore would not require permission or full attribution, regardless of what the allegedly infringed site claims its policy is. Given that the article is in Dutch, however, it's hard to tell how extensive the copying was.
- heystoopid, on 11/25/2007, -2/+8What a pity , since they are in Europe and are not subject to US domestic laws we can't send them a US 1998 DMCA notice take down letter !
I wonder are they using a US based server to host their web site that be the question , if the answer is yes that be a different kettle of fish ? - XZanatos, on 11/25/2007, -0/+6Just do what I did. I downloaded some content from the internet that I liked. I am not going to say exactly what it was. I liked it so I decided to pay the creators for it, I tracked down a mail order purchase address and sent them some cash in the mail. I get to keep the content in a way I like and do what ever I like with it and they get their money.
- justinp, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5Who the ***** opens an article with vociferous? You don't need a thesaurus to compose a well written article and this is a great example of why. You shouldn't feel the need to replace all common language just because you're trying to impress somebody as the result is often quite the opposite of what you intended.
- Volatile, on 11/25/2007, -10/+15That was great, but to claim they're not pirates is a bit of a lie...
"We are neither sailors nor thieves of other people’s intellectual property, unlike yourselves."
Err...really?
Not a supporter of the MPAA or RIAA at all, in fact I boycott the latter, and do pirate myself. But I am aware of the legality of piracy, and to say that I'm not breaking the law, no matter how outdated and obsolete that law happens to be, is simply false. - xobecide, on 11/25/2007, -2/+6The only revolution will occur when someone with deeper pockets wants to send a ***** you to the RIAA or MPAA. And for that person it will be more of a philanthropic exercise than one of profit, although if done correctly will still land the person a healthy paycheck each month.
And, yes, I have been studying copyright law and composing hundreds of business models that would turn "piracy" into a term that only those unfamiliar with the Internet would use (outside of awesome pirate ships). All it takes is for someone to have a large amount of money to nail down the individual costs of producing, licensing, and distributing music along certain mediums. Production and licensing could reach maybe up to 45 cents a track (also another hope that we stray away from albums that have no syntax and have artists focus on individual songs), and distribution for CDs (perhaps other mediums of physical distribution by this time) could reach 4 dollars an LP.
Downloads perhaps could be supplemented by ads or subscription fees, but the only way to makes this a profitable game for everyone is to eliminate an association used to "safeguard" artists (a loose term nowadays), and to integrate distribution between physical and data mediums.
Another concept including a version of DRM that is only attached to unpaid versions of songs (still full songs however), and allowing a download of a full version MP3 (OGG, etc.) on purchase.
Again this would take a lot of money and be more of a philanthropic exercise to convert artists to this "label," but with the right model (obviously I know nothing and it would take a few more years of creating a near-perfect, workable system) it could turn the industry around. - chedabob, on 11/25/2007, -0/+4There should be a report link under the two hands when you bury him. Sometimes it doesn't show up though.
- genepooldesign, on 11/26/2007, -0/+4Seriously dude, go eat asses...it's more about the pot calling the kettle black than anything else. I agree with allywilson...grow up and read the damn article.
- Cobainy, on 11/25/2007, -0/+4I wish, when I blocked someone, I didn't have to see their posts polluting the tubes.
- Blydchyld, on 11/26/2007, -0/+4Bravo!
- Stillmatic3, on 11/25/2007, -3/+6Bravo! you said it =)
- frostcrow, on 11/25/2007, -0/+3The people they are attacking sue 10 year olds just because they know mom and dad can't afford lawyers and will have to just pay up. I think pond scum has more legal integrity than anyone associated with the RIAA / MPAA
- Volatile, on 11/25/2007, -4/+7My mistake. They do support filesharing though, which isn't a problem, but it doesn't help them from a legal standpoint. I'm sure they don't care though.
- Volatile, on 11/25/2007, -0/+3I think you know what I mean. They're being attacked for, I assume, illegal sharing of copyrighted material, and in response they claim they do not do this kind of activity. They're lying. I agree with their stance on piracy and torrenting and such, but they're not being entirely truthful.
- OrangeTide, on 11/25/2007, -0/+3In the US there is no legal limbo for blogs. You can quote anyone without full attribution without it being a copyright violation. Generally works this way in UK, Australia, Canada, etc as far as I know. That's why many of us don't see the big deal here. If you copy the entire blog verbatim you can take someone to court for it, but generally you will have to show some sort of damages. Since most people don't make any money off blogs there is not much you can do.
Lucky for them they aren't in the US. - JernejL, on 11/25/2007, -0/+3There is a block button that appears near his nickname after you dugg down a person's comment, if enough people block him he's banned.
- sockpuppets, on 11/25/2007, -4/+6This is Brein, his name is Brein. Harden the ***** up, Brein.
- phrozen755, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2This is the greatest thing that has graced my eyes. I commend Torrent freak for their well written article of justice.
BEAUTIFUL. - monikerd, on 11/25/2007, -2/+4Don't you just hate it how they brake laws. And try to control what you see by stigmatizing torrentfreak. they should really open their eyes, and wake up in the 21st century.
Imagine car companies started a lobby that prosecuted everybody who finds alternative means of transportation, like the brilliantly distributed system of walking. They'll refer to them as "those who walk the streets", and prosecute people who manufacture and distribute maps. I really really hate it when companies think they should uphold the law themselves, just goes to show they have too much money to begin with. I bet the only sane way to save the music industry is to first bring it to its knees and then so they can start afresh with the right mindset. And systems that do not involve suing your own clients. - shark72, on 11/26/2007, -2/+4Since when does TorrentFreak care in the slightest about honoring copyrights? I especially enjoyed TorrentFreak calling BREIN "hypocritical." TorrentFreak suddenly caring about respecting copyright is the best example of hypocracy that I can think of.
At any rate, it's already been correctly pointed out that quoting bits of the TorrentFreak article without attribution is well, WELL within fair use. Sorry, that's the truth. The sad thing is that I'm sure the TorrentFreak guys already know this; they're just trying to get sympathy from people who don't know better.
Either way, TorrentFreak needs to decide what side they're on. Do they believe in respect for copyright, or don't they? - lithera, on 11/25/2007, -3/+5Much anger I sense in this one.
- eggdude, on 11/25/2007, -2/+4Am I missing something or is there no way to report someone as a spammer? How do we keep retards like zavarka25 from posting?
- shark72, on 11/26/2007, -0/+2It was something like six words -- just one sentence. You're correct... well within the scope of fair use. This one's a no-brainer. Either the TorrentFreak people are idiots, or they take their readers for idiots. Not sure yet.
- sigloiv, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2Truthfully though, a ton of lawyers actually write letters like that. I mean, just look at the legal threats toward The Pirate Bay...(for the uninitiated, http://thepiratebay.org/legal)
- dandonia, on 11/26/2007, -0/+2its liable, they printed something accusing them of been thieves. Very much a crime
- blix797, on 11/26/2007, -0/+2It's a matter of holding them to their own standards. If BREIN likes copyright so much, they should abide to the rules just like everyone else they're attempting to force.
- biggoron318, on 11/26/2007, -1/+2Well said.
- Amablue, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1The flare is there because it's an open letter. If it's going to be read by everyone, they need to make it a little flashy.
- ccheath, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1http://thepiratebay.org/legal always leave a space a the end of your url
- Johny900, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1well that's interesting.. i don't know why but i dugg it.
John - http://www.howtowritealetter.net - Blydchyld, on 11/26/2007, -1/+2Meh, unless torrentfreak actually take action then they might as well be pissing in the wind for all the use it would do.
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