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- kurupt, on 10/31/2007, -2/+57Although OiNK was stringent in its rules, they were put in place to ensure only the best quality would be available to its user base and that was certainly the case. It not only carried top quality, but the vast archive of albums was a boon that could not be found anywhere else. From the mainstream to the obscure, you would be surprised that you could find your friend's unsigned unknown band on there. Add in a wonderful community and you have (pretty much) all of the things that made OiNK a very special, which is why so many people were distraught by its take down.
I'm glad to hear that ex-OiNKers are making new homes for themselves elsewhere. There will never be another site quite like OiNK, but I hope these other trackers can grow and flourish to add to the bittorrent hydra. - OwlBoy, on 10/30/2007, -2/+32Yeah, it is hard to use your OiNK profile to vouch for an invite to a new site when, you know, no OiNK.
- Menzo, on 10/30/2007, -3/+14Unfortunately the 'good' trackers out there for music seem to be closed off to sign ups or require invites. Thing is, the vast majority if people that want to sign up at the moment ARE from Oink, so it's kind of a shoot yourself in the foot thing since Oinkers can't get it :(
- crazybrit, on 11/11/2007, -10/+20Talented? How does uploading music involve talent?
(I'm not an OiNK hater by the way, but that's a bit ridiculous.) - homesickalien, on 10/30/2007, -1/+11OiNK may be gone, but the back catalog of digitized music that was so painstakingly accumulated and dissipated is now out there on thousands of neatly organized hard drives across the globe. We just need torrents for all those files and trackers to give them good homes.
- mburk, on 11/11/2007, -2/+11You don't know what you're talking about. Scene does great work, but they release low bitrate pre-releases as a preview, and not a substitute, for the final retail release. OiNK offered several bitrates for each title ranging from 192kpbs to lossless rips.
- berb, on 10/30/2007, -2/+10"Nothing has stepped in to replace OiNK"
Sheesh, it hasn't even been a week yet! And there are already some planned new sites popping up, it'll just take some time to see which of them are worthwhile. - crazybrit, on 10/30/2007, -1/+8The article wasn't talking about web developers, but I won't deny that that involves talent. I still don't see how ripping and uploading CDs takes talent. It's just a matter of learning a process and repeating it.
- burke, on 11/09/2007, -1/+7"Nothing has stepped in to replace OiNK"
On a COMPLETELY unrelated note -- Boy, I could sure go for some waffles right about now. - kurupt, on 10/30/2007, -1/+7Scene rips were predominant for new releases. You are ignoring older releases that were upped by the community, not to mention the FLAC rips for both new and old releases.
- frsrblch, on 10/30/2007, -1/+7Apparently that doesn't mean people can't pull a profit off it.
- RoshanK, on 10/30/2007, -1/+7Rule #1: You don't talk about...
- ZenFountain, on 10/30/2007, -2/+7"Tracking only the finest recordings from virtually every musical genre, beautifully labeled and cataloged releases were its trademark, created by people who thrived under some of the harshest releasing rules the torrent community had ever seen. Nothing less than the highest quality was good enough for OiNK."
Gona have to disagree there...at least 50% of the stuff I downloaded @ oink was tagged incorrectly with far too many rips made using iTunes. But yes, it was the greatest music tracker. It doesn't take much effort to slide a CD into a tray, press a few buttons in EAC, press crtl+n in uTorrent and upload a torrent. It takes a lot of effort and talent to make music, which is why I feel kinda sorry for all the musicians I may never hear about with loss of oink. I don't know how most musicians feel about file sharing, but I do know oink took me from music apathy and a pile of dusty CD's to excited about music and listening every day in every way. - frsrblch, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4Those are talents, but seeding simply requires your computer to be on.
- gmillerd, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4Just need moderators and a serious ratio / weighted invite system thats all.
- MrSkoTSir, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4I love the irony of this. The idiots in the IFPI/DutchPolice were so blissfully ignorant of what the site actually was, that in their overzealous thrust of justice, they actually did more to catalyze further distribution of high quality music than to 'shut down' the horrible people (music fans) who were perpetrating this heinous act.
- tempusrob, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5How about the people who *make* the music?
- sifelltneytandi, on 11/11/2007, -1/+4Nope. I only get V0, and I know how to rip to V0. I don't consider myself talented.
- kazamx, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2I remember when suprnova first went down. People said nothing would ever be able to replace it. look where we are today with mininova and others. While Oink will always have a place in our hearts a bigger and better version will be found one day
- burke, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2Website or not, OiNK was the single most complete and high-quality repository of music, legal or otherwise, to ever exist. It was kind of a big deal.
- trebor, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2thats 3 more than i would even want.
- neurosport, on 10/30/2007, -2/+4the great thing about OiNK was all the FLAC releases
somebody should create a FLAC-only tracker - verevi, on 10/30/2007, -6/+8I think having 1 hip hop album is sad. Wow, you must be *really* depressed.
- JPOOPOO, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2your comment sucked the most
- anachronaut, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2Sorry, but -v0 (formerly APX or --alt-preset extreme) is not the profile for 320 CBR (formerly API or --alt-preset insane).
The "v" stands for variable bitrate, and you're not ever going to get that with 320kbps MP3, which is always constant bitrate. There's basically never any good reason to use 320 CBR, in my opinion. You're better off going FLAC if you're going to have bloated files anyway.
I miss OiNK. :( - inactive, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2Stmusic is teh suck.
- TheCheeks, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2Just use a screenshot of your invite email.
- NorthKorea, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1anti-cheat was "top notch" ? HA! ***** rubbish. it was not the best even among mid-tier sites.... at least 2 major sploits up to the day it went down
- traceur, on 11/10/2007, -1/+2however, there is talent involved in the acquisition and initial distribution of releases. advances, leaks and even first releases don't drop out of heaven.
- Rotzooi, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Yeah, terrific for the people who got invited on IRC.
- worxman02, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2Actually the people who created the stores aren't making money off of it. Besides Cafepress.
- jtmeyer, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2now, if only other sites had a community like OiNK, and a system for keeping things organized like OiNK, then it would really be great. And then the only improvement they could make would be... well... servers in space.
and lance bass could stand guard. - MtheoryX, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Yeah, well, I have three PS3's.
- chinolofus, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1stmusic sucks...unless you like electronic music.
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1They seem to be getting tired of the RIAA and the recording companies screwing them, also. I would gladly pay for a cd if it had 10 to 12 decent tunes on it. Usually artists are pressured in to releasing a cd on schedule, and even talented artists put out cds with one or two good songs and eiight or ten filler tunes that I wouldn't let pigs listen to while they *****.
- PistolFred, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2That plus not having Comcast as your ISP
(http://digg.com/tech_news/Comcast_Throttles_BitTor ... - trebor, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1or being on the site pre invite.
- Rotzooi, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1They had a complete Fairuz discography.
- theweapon, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1I really wish people would stop digging stuff about torrent sites. As much as I enjoy the read, all this does is attract attention to where people are migrating to, which is not a good thing IMHO. I have a couple of good private sites I use, and there's no way in hell I'd start advertising the names/links around.
- kidjay, on 10/30/2007, -2/+3in other news Josef Mengele was apprehended this evening in South America...
- unknownsoldierX, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1I cheated my ratio plenty of times and never got caught. It was sometimes impossible for me to keep my ratio legit, simply because there were too many high speed seeders. Anything of my own that I could upload was already present on the tracker, so sometimes I needed to inflate my ratio a little.
I didn't totally abuse the site. I just had a hard time staying afloat sometimes. It's hard to seed when there's a couple dozen seeders constantly uploading 100+ KB/s. It was really hard for lower speed members to keep up. - Rotzooi, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1I don't like the BitTorrent Hydra. Signing up for a zillion different trackers sucks ass. One-stop-shopping like at Oink was much much more convenient.
- dstz, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2Didn't know OINK, never came up when I was looking for rare music (early recordings of Fairuz, classic recordings from the 30s, hardtechno mixtapes from the 90s, etc).
- solid12345, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Am I the only one who has no respect for torrent site operators?
At least in the old days of piracy you got files off IRC, FTP's, and Usenet and nobody was making a profit off that.
Now sites like The Pirate Bay are putting porn ads on their sites and pulling in potentially millions of dollars of ad revenue making money off other artist's work and offering it up on a silver platter.
In my mind these guys are no better than the greedy record execs, they are exploiting artists too. - solid12345, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Wow, Radiohead and NIN leaves a major label and you say "the music industry is tired of the RIAA" go tell that to the thousands of bands still signed to major labels.
- solid12345, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Yeah and what do you listen to, your elitist techno/house ***** that all sounds the same as well.
- NorthKorea, on 11/11/2007, -2/+2burk - you are a moron
- notomgreen, on 11/08/2007, -0/+0Check out stmusic.org
the site is closed for signups after today. Get in while you can. - drakethegreat, on 10/31/2007, -9/+9I know for a fact that OINK did have some talent. There anti-cheat was top notch and so was there content. As a former admin for an unnamed tracker this is a benefit. Just sucks for people that want accounts for other sites after the closing.
- thanks, on 10/30/2007, -1/+1You're forgetting something though. Us Oinkers got into Oink, and if we got into Oink, no other exclusive tracker on the internet seems that hard to get into, if we weren't already apart of those as well.
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