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- justahuman, on 02/20/2008, -3/+90EU Invests $22 Million in Next-Generation BitTorrent Client
seems like US is like the only country which doesnt realise the potential of bittorrent - prisoner24601, on 02/20/2008, -2/+45øwnd
- qwuinc, on 02/20/2008, -2/+41Congratulations to Norsemen :-)
It's a sad day to be a finn, realizing that unlike our western neighbours Sweden and Norway, our politicians are constantly making wrong decisions. Of all countries, I guess soon Finland will be compared to China, for example (eg. the recent secret-police-list-censors-activist fiasco). - mbthompson, on 02/20/2008, -0/+39I bet the news smacked that smug grin right off his shyster face. What I wouldn't give to see that moment in time!
- thcobbs, on 02/20/2008, -0/+28The country does.... its the damn lawyers and politicians who can't find their way with a flashlight and a map.
- FSUCHEEF, on 02/20/2008, -1/+26Actual Serious Question Here
If you do get taken to court by the MAFIAA and you do have some old judge who knows nothing about BT etc. Can you question the judge whether he has the correct knowledge to be presiding over the case if he cannot even understand the exact nature of how the crime was committed? - inactive, on 02/20/2008, -0/+24Only if he looks like a wizard.
- ThatEvilGuy, on 02/20/2008, -1/+21Awesome!
I'm glad the police are getting tired of this *****, they have real criminals to catch, thieves(real ones), rapists, murderers, and then comes this wanker lawyer demanding them to chase around kids who download, ***** OFF. - hippogriff, on 02/20/2008, -0/+12Yarr!
- norman619, on 02/20/2008, -1/+13Odin be praised!
- Lutfesk, on 02/20/2008, -0/+12Original article; http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2008/02/14/526944.h ...
Basically, Norwegian ISPs refuse and don't have to to give any information whatsoever about their customers to anyone but the police where the charges are being dropped left and right. in the cases they actually get one through, they rarely have any identity on the person behind the IP address and it ends up in the garbage at KRIPOS (National Criminal Investigation Service) because they think it belongs in a civil court. something that just brings them back to square one because they can't get any information on the IP addresses.
It's mentioned in the article but just thought I might as well point it out. Sorry about my rusty English though! :) - say592, on 02/20/2008, -0/+11In the US, it doesnt matter. Your defense might be to call the judge out on the subject, but that would probably offend him and screw you over.
You could possibly use it as grounds for a mis-trial if you were found guilty though. - Rapter09, on 02/20/2008, -1/+11Well, I hope you get it fixed. I want to go to Finland someday :(
- bw007, on 02/20/2008, -0/+10What does that have to do with anything? Just because a US citizen created BitTorrent doesn't mean that the country/government as a whole realise its potential.
- stronglikedan, on 02/20/2008, -0/+9Silly you. You can't question a judge! You are at their mercy. They are worse than lawye...oh wait, nm.
- heystoopid, on 02/20/2008, -0/+9So the bad taste of the failed case against DVD Jon still resonates even now years later ! :)
- Foamed, on 02/20/2008, -0/+8Tønde has spread so many lies about file sharers that I'm almost ashamed to live in the same country as him. I'm glad that the police has stated this, because it's just wasted money. Just as the war on drugs.
- nitrojunky24, on 02/21/2008, -0/+7basically the Norwegian police told Espen T øndel to stick it up his ASS
- ByteGuerilla, on 02/20/2008, -0/+7Why did the lion get lost?
˙ǝʌıssɐɯ sı ǝlƃunɾ ǝsnɐɔ - inactive, on 02/20/2008, -1/+7poor fins, here in australia i can't use bittorrent because they count my upload rate and i'm only allowed 60GB/month upload AND download and am paying $120 US!!!! add 40 dollars for each additional GB over your limit....well...you do the math...
poor me has to use usenet...;-) - mOdQuArK, on 02/21/2008, -0/+6Flashlights & maps don't do diddly when their heads are planted firmly up their asses.
- dacheetah, on 02/20/2008, -0/+5He's referring the the US of A, not the EU...
- lotsofcooki3s, on 02/20/2008, -0/+5øwnd is an understatement.... pøwnd is much better :)... good job Norway!
- yodaj007, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5The Flying Spaghetti Monster would pwn Shiva.
- xdevit, on 02/21/2008, -0/+5I just don't see how anyone wouldn't want to take advantage of millions of willing users. Everyone here knows that sharing helps any hosting site out but if you others would open their eyes and see that just 1,000,000 users that are seeding a file at only 1KB/s that then equals to close to 1GB/s and im sure most of you seed at 10-50KB/s and if more network providers would act as seeds for files they could then make most of the sharing be in their network only meaning they arn't using any of their peered bandwidth. Why download the new service pack / OS from X when you can download it from your neighbors. Which costs your ISP nothing.
Torrents have a bad rap because of illegal sharing mainly cause its easier now for anyone to use it but before then it was just as easy to use BBS, FTP, NNTP, IRC dcc / fservers, and the random hidden webserver stuff. Not like piracy came about because of bittorrent, it just made it easier for your grandmother to use. Also not everything is used just for piracy.
Good to see the EU investing in BT also.
Sorry if I totally screwed the math up but you get the idea. - cliffski, on 02/20/2008, -0/+5No. thats why cases have expert witnesses.
- yodaj007, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4bumble: Misreading a comment doesn't make you a douche. A bag, maybe. But definitely not a douche.
- walkingdogs, on 02/20/2008, -0/+4Not only that, but who wants to bet that a lot of the cops or their kids use torrents themselves to download.
- bbqsalad, on 02/20/2008, -2/+6hah. +1 for the good guys.
- prytz420, on 02/21/2008, -0/+4If you were worthy to live there you would be contacted long ago
- inactive, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Actualy bought, really awesome movie thats a parody of "Kill Bill" of course. Bet it's just to download cause the producers said that they approve it:D
- macwac, on 02/20/2008, -1/+4=) a happy day!
- dacheetah, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Wow, Ouch.
Also here in Australia I'm paying US$55 for 72GB (48 is off peak, midnight to midday) upstream not counted.
You must be with Telstra to be getting such a terrible deal. Even Optus don't count upstream. - mikezerobot, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3"Tøndel reported 14 people to the police for sharing the movie, ‘Kill Buljo'"
That is an awesome title. - bscene, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3¿pɐǝɥ ʎɯ oʇ buıɥsnɹ poo1q ǝɥʇ 11ɐ sı ʎɥʍ
- blackrave, on 02/20/2008, -1/+4You have the best school in the world, though. :)
- int19h, on 02/20/2008, -1/+4I agree, right up to that last sentence. Some drugs are worse than filesharing.
- Kurlumbenus, on 02/20/2008, -0/+3Evolution in action.
- Yage2006, on 02/21/2008, -0/+3It is sad to know that some emergency could/will occur and they wont get to it in time because they have to deal with this douchebag and perhaps there will be casualties
Casualties that will be blood on the hands of Mr. Espen T øndel - blackdeath88012, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2"some" being the key word in your statement...
- bigp3rm, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2What a round mouth.
- theaceoffire, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2Gogo, I congratulate you on finding the Ctrl button and the leter V.
Now go home. - Rocketgeek, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2You want to try dealing with the music industry little boy. Your constant defending of people who are big violators of criminal laws such as use of illegal drugs just demonstrates your failure to look at the bigger picture, namely, that the music industry are guilty of far more serious offences than those you wrongly accuse of being thieves.
- ronocdh, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2Wait... physically?
- BearinG, on 02/21/2008, -0/+2Quebec provincial police rep (i think it was a rep) that they would not go after people who download for personal use, that they had way more important things to do.. Obviously that doesn't leave out pirated material distributors or sellers etc.. (they have caught some not too long ago)
But its nice to see that they have their priorities straight and would rather get real criminals then just individuals looking for a movie... - say592, on 02/20/2008, -0/+2Huge problem with that, he would probably notice and ground you. Or worse, SUE you. Those lawyers are relentless.
- joshuba, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Blizzard actually does this to get their new patches out, but your ideas are spot on.
- bw007, on 02/22/2008, -0/+1What? All I was saying was that Gndoab's comment had ***** all to do with justahuman's comment. I don't give two tosses about government run bittorrent software. I'll keep using uTorrent thank you very much.
- prytz420, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1I was thinking the same, I wish they had said the same about drugs.
- YodaJones, on 02/21/2008, -0/+1Haa Haaa.
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