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No “3 Strikes” in Spain, Watch Out Torrent Sites

torrentfreak.com — Just days after ISPs in Spain confirmed talks with the music and movie industry had ended without success, entertainment companies have now backed away from their “3 strikes” demands after it became clear the Spanish government does not support their plan. They will go after 200 BitTorrent sites instead.

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  • jos22, on 06/23/2009, -5/+37according to everyone else the US should ***** off and mind it own business for once
  • boardthis, on 06/24/2009, -0/+29no 3 strikes, but plenty of balls by the US to recommend restrictions on a foreign country which the US itself does not practice.
  • alwaysnomadic, on 06/24/2009, -0/+17logical and fair law:
    "the local courts have ruled time and again that if profits aren’t made directly from copyright infringements, BitTorrent sites are perfectly legal"
  • PlusTheBear, on 06/24/2009, -2/+18Sue you all. Destroy you.
  • suntzusputnik, on 06/24/2009, -0/+14can't we file a class action lawsuit against the riaa and similar organizations to stop this abusive nonsense?
  • andygavin, on 06/24/2009, -0/+13Well done for the Spanish government. Piracy is different from Torrents. Attempting to outlaw P2P because it's used a lot for piracy is idiotic. Torrents can be used as a legitimate distribution mechanism too.
  • tgc1, on 06/24/2009, -0/+8Hahahahaha did the RIAA actually think that would work? That people would just go along with their evil plans? ***** morons. They need to get with it and just die already.
  • cosy18, on 06/23/2009, -3/+11SGAE ahora vas y la cascas
  • uberduger, on 06/24/2009, -1/+8Which one is it you work for again? I forget.
  • KnivesYouFag, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7Yeah because you know the US population had such a positive reaction to the 1.9 m suit filed against a woman for downloading a handful of ***** songs.

    I think we see who is being delusional.
  • inactive, on 06/24/2009, -1/+8Exactly. I'd say about half the things I've torrented are legal, and three quarters of the things that weren't I either later paid for or deleted. The rest were Metallica albums. :D
  • andygavin, on 06/24/2009, -0/+6I've downloaded large opensource projects using bit torrent. Eg: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php
    Efforts to block bit-torrent traffic just increases traffic across the internet. As for these technologies stifling creativity... that's laughable. Blocking traffic is not the answer... whatever your view on piracy.
  • Snakeyes11, on 06/24/2009, -0/+6The war will go on and on and will never end, It never will.
  • AndySavage, on 06/24/2009, -0/+5¡España de puta madre!
  • javaroast, on 06/24/2009, -0/+5Galt doesn't work, he's just a lonely troll that is on the constant lookout for an opportunity to troll digg.
  • KnivesYouFag, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4Yeah, because you know people who pirate movies never go to the movie theater.

    Man, ***** innovation, thank goodness the RIAA is here to stunt innovation, cause you know capitalism's success is not contingent on such an abstract theory
  • acknotSW, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4It will when the courts and laws begin to recognize that a product with an infinite supply and no distribution costs has a monetary value of zero.
  • KnivesYouFag, on 06/24/2009, -0/+4You know what's abusive? Your user name. I mean, I thought I was being an ass about mine, but kudos man. What's worse, John, being so far the RIAA's ass, or Ayn Rand's

    I don't know if your favorite author would admire your love of a ton of laws that in no way serve your well being, unless you work for the RIAA or one of its subsidiaries
  • TheUngod, on 06/24/2009, -0/+3The RIAA doesn't represent America in any way. Comparing the two is like saying Microsoft sucks, down with America.
  • Halsfield, on 06/24/2009, -4/+7You talk like the entire US is behind the RIAA and similar organizations. When in fact I would say almost everyone besides the RIAA employees hate them.

  • Stingwolf, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2Really, it's not even going to take that. The market has already moved. The RIAA and the like have already lost. The only thing they're accomplishing now is a suicide attack that's damaging innocent people.

    The end result of all of this is that we're going to have amazingly draconian copyright laws on the books, but no one will ever enforce them. This will be because all major artists will leave their RIAA affiliated labels and do their own distribution, without the crutch of copyright. Thus, copyright laws will be like those local ordinances that still exist in some cities that say "You can't drive over 10 mph in a car because you'll scare the horses." These are still on some law books simply because it would be a pain to repeal them. They are simply unenforced.
  • priegog, on 06/24/2009, -0/+2Ángeles González-Sinde fuera!
  • garvallagh, on 06/24/2009, -1/+3!!Viva España, Viva La Republica!!

    \snaps closed fist to side of head
  • cardyology, on 06/25/2009, -0/+1you all thought I was gonna say "***** the RIAA"

    No.
  • garvallagh, on 06/25/2009, -0/+1What have you got against the Republic... Franco lover

    ;)
  • Sebastian20, on 06/24/2009, -1/+2Won't change a thing.
  • Halsfield, on 06/25/2009, -0/+1f54280 - He said US , not government , not lobbyists. My point is that the US, as a whole, does not do anything. The US as a whole is not attacking Iraq, nor occupying Afghanistan, nor anything at all as a whole. We are completely splintered on the opinions of how to handle our problems locally and abroad and I'm offended that someone would tell me that I'm supporting this when I am not.

    Even if we are talking about the government ,the entire government of the united states is not for forcing IP laws onto other countries,absolutely not all lobbyists are for this because they are for whatever they are being paid for and that changes all the time, and I would estimate if you polled anonymous Americans in the government and otherwise you would find that a great deal of us dislike the RIAA and anyone else that supports these types of laws and tactics.

    I don't see how that is anything but relevant to the original comment.
  • Stingwolf, on 06/25/2009, -0/+1"The US govt is pushing US-centric IP laws onto others countries"

    That's actually very true. Yes, these actions are at the request of lobbyists in the *AA (and by request I mean bought and paid for), but it does, very much, involve our government. Just look at the USTR report that effectively "names and shames" countries they claim to have "lax IP enforcement." The most laughable new addition to this list? Canada. Countries are only added to this list when they don't "comply" with the same laws that the content cartels bought in the USA.
  • Greg2k, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1The only good news from the Spanish Government in 5 years. We still pay "piracy tax" though (for instance 13€ per hard drive to recoup the "losses" associated with filesharing, even if it's for your family photos or corporate databases, and 16% VAT is added to that too).
  • TomP, on 06/24/2009, -1/+2If 200 go down 300 will be up within a month
  • berobreo, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1PUTA SGAE!!!
  • Halsfield, on 06/25/2009, -0/+1You can't even paint the US government with that broad of a brush and lobbyists want whatever is best for their corporations which are as varied as the products they sell and incredibly fickle as well.

    I don't know why it was so hard to just say that the RIAA "should ***** off and mind its own business for once" instead of using the US in its place. Quit taking pot shots at the US when in fact a large percentage of our government and our general public despise the RIAA and are working hard to get it neutered.
  • Greg2k, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1I am tempted to digg you up for "Viva España", yet "Viva la República" is tempting me to digg you down...
  • Stingwolf, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1The vast majority of people, sadly, do not know about that verdict. Everyone I've told a) had no idea it happened, and b) were absolutely appalled by it when they found out. All fans of justice should spread the word to everyone you can about the case.
  • suntzusputnik, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1me? my username came from two randomized wikipedia articles
  • Stingwolf, on 06/24/2009, -0/+1It's called trolling, and it's really not worth replying to.
  • Travelsonic, on 06/24/2009, -1/+1Don't you have anything... you know.. substantial to say Galt, or is it always going to be the same 1-liner *****?
  • uberduger, on 06/24/2009, -4/+4You're part of the problem.
  • jos22, on 06/24/2009, -2/+2by US I assume you knew I was referring to your government and lobbyist.
    who are constantly trying to force US laws on to other countries and threatening them with trade sanctions if you do not adhere to their demands.
  • jtmedina, on 06/25/2009, -0/+0piracy kills business
  • f54280, on 06/25/2009, -1/+0The US govt is pushing US-centric IP laws onto others countries via treaties and threat of trade sanctions, there is no doubt about that. That those laws mostly originate from RIAA/MPAA is not very relevant to the original poster comment.
  • GaltShrugged, on 06/24/2009, -7/+6That's a delusional thought.
  • GaltShrugged, on 06/24/2009, -10/+2They're not doing anything abusive.
  • cardyology, on 06/24/2009, -13/+2***** paying for music & movies.
  • GaltShrugged, on 06/23/2009, -27/+5Sue them all. Destroy them.

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