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- kaje, on 10/12/2007, -0/+01/3 third? I highly doubt that...70% of computer users dont' even know what BT is
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm a leecher, and i'm proud.
- duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0a third of internet traffic....that is insane!
DuGg - Skab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This was stated like wayyyy back in june, also it needs to be optimzed, i can't count how many times, ill be seeding and thier will be a guy with 98.9% but im not giving him any bandwidth, But i can send 5k to someone who has 13%. Bt is only used for legal purposes anyways, just everyone loses thier backups, cause people steal cds, and need personal backup copies, of porn, games, movies they just seen in the theaters. Like spiderman man, everybody gets one. To bad thiers just 123132123563 people.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Good read.
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I really hope that the music/movie industry do work something out that allows a pay service using bittorrent.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"1/3 third? I highly doubt that...70% of computer users dont' even know what BT is"
And the people that don't know enough to know what BT is are the same ones that don't do much of anything online other than chat on AIM and look at porn every now and then. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm a leecher, and i'm proud."
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Explain why you are proud. I think we all know why you're a leecher... - psyonide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A very interesting read. I did not know Cohen had Asperger's Syndrome.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0yeah yeah bittorrent! way 2 be
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's too bad you can see everyone's IP address...and send their ISPs cease-and-desist letters.
/got one from HBO for Curb Your Entusiasim - Skab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0And yes BT isn't the new napster because BT will never stop, it will only get much much better or evolve into a better type of sharing protocol
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's not 1/3 of computer users are using bittorrent. Think about it. It's BANDWIDTH used. I filled my 120 and 250 with episodes of MST3k, [as] shows, movies, games, music. I have a 6Mbit down connection. Filelist is at it's limit of 250,000 people, empornium has a limit of 500,000, pureTNA has a limit around there, too.
Even if it's just 2m people using BitTorrent out of a couple hundred million, we're using a *****-ton of bandwidth.
And skab, learn how to use there, their, they're. It's your language, use it correctly. - rk_cr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Lyph3 took the words right out of my mouth... While I think that few know how to use BT, and even less IRC, I'd venture to say that the highest amount of bandwidth is used between the two. Napster never even comes close because song files are so small.
However, in terms of popularity of programs BT still has a bit to go until it's as well-known as Napster. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Heheh, folks if your getting caught using bittorrent then I have some advice for you. Use Tor and I2p networks to route your tracker information on ;) Of course this will make them mad if enough of you do it, but both networks ( or so Ive heard from reliable sources ) are supposed to be expanding rapidly anyway not to mention your only routing TRACKER INFORMATION not the entire file. Hope I helped, Torrent safely.
- peterberry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"1/3 third? I highly doubt that...70% of computer users dont' even know what BT is"
That leaves the 30% that do know about BT and if they are using it that's roughly 1/3 of the traffic. - matt221984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the author of this article is such a douche bag, did he even do any research on BitTorrent before he did this interview? BitTorrent isn't a Program, its a protocol developed for moving large files (ie Linux distributions). Its like him doing an interview with the founders of TCP/IP and asking "Nonetheless, lots of copyrighted files are on TCP/IP. Why haven't you been sued?"
Steven Levy should be punched in the throat. - joe_prbc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can totally believe that its 1/3 of the bandwith. There may not be a lot of people using it, i think there are but thats beside the point. The people who do use it, use it a lot for big files so yeah 1/3 is within reason i believe. And I am looking forward to services that use BT, I would pay for subscription based content. And who cares if people know what BT is, its built into some podcast aggregators, so I am sure some people use it with out knowing there are using it, thats a small number I know but that number could grow. If Sony can get people to install a rootkit without knowing HBO and NBC can get people to install and use a BT client and not care how the content is getting delivered. BT is a fantastic way to deliever data seriously big ups to Bram Cohen.
- metafore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I'm a leecher, and i'm proud." math_genius
in the context of BT, your math doesn't add up.
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good read, dugg. - Dispersion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have no idea if it's actually using 1/3 of the bandwidth out there, but I do know that it's idiotic to have the article explain to me in the next sentence that 1/3 means one in three. Whoever wrote that is a moron trying to take up space.
- nymphetamine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0they should really work out something to be able to download movies legally with bittorrent.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"in the context of BT, your math doesn't add up."
prove it. - mike1979, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This guy, Bram Cohen, is the man. For sure. A smart smart man. And also surprisingly approachable, on the Internet anyway. I sent him an email a while back when he released one of his first revisions of the Mac Bi torrent client, as I was having an issue with the software. He promptly emailed me back with a solution (that worked nonetheless) - and this is in the span of a hour or so. I thanked him etc in a reply, he even replied to that email. Amazing. I don't think I've ever sent an email to a private software and have them email me back, let alone like that.
Wherever Bit torrent technology goes (under market, or as a actual market delivery medium) it will be very very popular. Especially when google gets it's data centers running ;)
See data-centers at >> http://searchcafe.blogspot.com/ - mike1979, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0see, I think they are buying in...
http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16553 - matt221984, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"That leaves the 30% that do know about BT and if they are using it that's roughly 1/3 of the traffic."
Not exactly, if you think about it the average bit torrent user uses much more traffic than the average web-surfer/email-downloader. So even if only 15% of internet users use BitTorrent, it could still technically make up for 30% of the traffic because they transfer much more on a more regular basis. - osbjmg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am not quite clear as to what Hollywood would want to use BT for. The main idea with bittorrent is that P2P networks consist of many users with limited upload bandwidth. This is the way it is because cable and dsl providers skew the bandwidth toward download, since the idea is to give you "web browsing" or whatever they claim they are giving you. If you have some movies to distribute, it would be great to have everyone do it for you... but let's say they hire bittorrent and then we buy it from the labels/bittorrent... who pays us back for the bandwidth consumed? Why should we seed? Maybe a credit system?
Also, bittorrent is more of an idea, there is no reason someone else can't use the same general idea and implement it in their own application - i.e.- movie/music industry types. If I were a greedy money vampire like the labels, I would just hire a college kid and make my own distributed P2P system. - jdavid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wish bit torrent was certificate based and providers of legal content could get paid. If the p2p space was profitable, then your services would be cleaner of illegal files, it would make more sense to distribute legal files that generate revenue, than files that cost you money to distribute. Encrypted packets based on a single distribution source/ seed could use public private keys to track who is providing and who is consuming, and so distributors could get paid for their bandwidth.
Imagine if local bandwidth was super-cheep, 100mb symmetrical Ethernet loops in Milwaukee are around a couple thousand dollars; much cheaper than full cloud access. p2p has the potential to make it worthwhile to localize alot of cloud access and increase overall bandwidth significantly. If only it was profitable for people to set up their own distribution nodes?
jDavid.net - Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Only 1/3?
The last realistic measurements I read had BT traffic at roughly 60%. - Skab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0i member also i friend in the af gave me this statistic, 50% of all the usage is used by only 2% of the the net, the other 50% is used by 98% i wonder who *college/office servers* are using that bandwidth for. And what thier saying is bandwidth not USERS, my friend teamgt had his ***** capped 4 years ago, cause he was using 98% of the bandwidth for his neighborhood, now he's learned and just has a 2 cable connections networked together, for um......800 gig backup server. 1/3 I believe it if not more.
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