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- piranhaa, on 05/19/2009, -0/+712 easy ways to submit any type of law:
1) "For the children ... Cause everyone out there is into child porn."
or 2) "Fight against Terrorism" - MariusAgricola, on 05/19/2009, -0/+59Or, "How To Ruin the Internet In Three Easy Steps."
- venusflytrap09, on 05/19/2009, -0/+46So, a government was formed to serve the people. But, over time it grew larger and stronger and started to pursue it's own interests rather than those of those it governs. It started to rule rather than serve. Now, it's starting to become oppressive.
This is starting to sound familiar. - inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+38Same thing they tried in Australia. These dictatorial(democratic, yeah right.) governments will do anything to try to control the population. Big business and government are losing out to it because people are becoming aware of the *****, propaganda and lies they are being feed and are using the internet as a tool for truth.
These controlling parties use tactics like "your not for child porn are you?" as a means to create a divide among the masses and use it for the excuse implement new laws for their own personal agendas, while the political topic is completely ignored. People need to be aware of the dirty tactics they use and one thing these controlling parties DO NOT WANT is an educated public.
The public are like mushrooms to them, keep them in the dark and feed them *****. - mdelling, on 05/19/2009, -0/+36Ironic, in that Pericles was the archon (leader) of Athens during its golden age and helped shape our modern ideas of democracy and freedom.
- venusflytrap09, on 05/19/2009, -0/+32Sounds like it's getting to be time for another French Revolution.
- inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+31Rarely has the "slippery slope" been more evident than in this case. You can actually see the grab of power happen. Governments are usually more subtle.
My prediction for the next spot on the slope from France: Gov't issued internet access I.D., which can be revoked or suspended if you're behind on taxes/child support/committed a crime/visited Pakistan. Add your own reasons for fun. - Libertaire, on 05/19/2009, -2/+26Hooray for repression! Hey, if it gets people off the internet, it can only be a good thing right?
- Rapter09, on 05/20/2009, -0/+15This is how you pass any stupid idea regarding the internet:
In big bold, italicized, underlined 60-pt font at the top of the bill:
"Stops Child Porn"
Everybody immediately drops any pretense of intelligent, rational debate of the bill and its greater implications for the other things that are in the bill. - MrInfallible, on 05/20/2009, -0/+14Or ask for much more than what you want and then you actually get what you want in the compromise.
- inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+12I don't know if that was a freedom fries type joke, but the French had a widely adopted prequel to the internet while Americans were still ***** around with BBSs and newspapers.
- JackSchittt, on 05/20/2009, -0/+12It's amazing just how effective this is in the business world. I use it routinely at work.
- lashtal, on 05/20/2009, -1/+12ISP blocking child porn is no more than a testground. They are testing efficiency, slowly eliminate possible workarounds thus developing the system. Then, they will start blocking torrent sites, any sites they decide to call 'suspicious', or just ones 'incompatible' with current government's political views. Authoritarianism.
It is obvious that fighting porn is ineffective when you-re just blocking resources one by one, with ten more arise.
Furthermore, how do they plan blocking porn in decentralized encrypted p2p nets?
The only effective measure is to close hosters and jail the owners. - HeavyWave, on 05/20/2009, -0/+10European Union is against the law. It's just France.
- TheAngryMob, on 05/20/2009, -0/+10Liberty, Equality, Fraternity...my ass.
- duncan202, on 05/20/2009, -0/+9But that's the insidious part. Governments love laws against mundane things that people generally ignore. That way everyone is a criminial. Sure, sure they let you get away with it so it doesn't seem like a big deal. But then one day, when they decide they don't like you-- "Yes I know we let you get away with this hundreds of times before, but this time we've decided to pick you up on it."
These laws are like fence posts that are set wide apart. They don't seem like a big deal as you can freely move between them. Till one day you wake up and they've filled them in. - BigStinkGuide, on 05/20/2009, -1/+10This is not a French production, it's a "World Government" production. @demonic "Same thing they tried in Australia" - They didn't just try it, they are still trying. Despite huge public backlash to initial trials for proposed mandatory filtering, involving 6 relatively unknown ISPs, without word getting out in main stream media here, one of Australia's biggest ISPs, Optus, is about to commence in the trial in 2 days time (May 22, 2009).
The ruling elite know very well we wont take this lying down, so they will in most circumstances implement very covertly, we won't know it's coming till it's already been enacted. - bannor78, on 05/20/2009, -0/+9It seems perfectly reasonable to take away your right to privacy and your freedom to communicate with the world in order to protect Britney's copyright for "womanizer".
- cornfeed, on 05/20/2009, -0/+8Ah rebellion. Frankly nothing much will be done about this from the public. The general public are worthless sheep who prefer to belly-ache about the loss of freedoms and the tyranny of government. But few will rise from their soft chairs and put forth an effort to preserve their freedom.
And none will be willing to die to actually rebel. Government knows this and acts accordingly. - inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+8This relates to health care how? And be specific.
- WilliamDavis, on 05/20/2009, -1/+9The french are just now starting citizen database? lol. Beaten by america again.
- lashtal, on 05/20/2009, -0/+8btw, ***** THE RIAA!
- b4gk1lz, on 05/20/2009, -1/+8The United States won't be far behind as the current administration is eager to follow in Europe's footsteps in all other aspects of running the government.
- Thrush13, on 05/20/2009, -2/+9Wow,
Is the french governement this idiotic? They thought the immigration riots were bad, wait til they see the millions of internet savy users revolt.
Liberty my eye. - mattmeow, on 05/20/2009, -0/+7As society comes to grip with this thing we invented called "the internet" it is of absolute importance that this data network, linking the minds and lives of all the humans and machines, be free from a central controlling entity.
We have now just barely begun to understand the implications of the cloud mind. The internet is the collective intelligence, it is the collective consciousness, and it must remain free, uncensored, and open. In the end the internet is all we have. - inactive, on 05/19/2009, -1/+8End result everyone goes back to doing business the old school way... the French are starting World War 3.. way to go Frenchies.. gee I wonder how this will be abused. These days the developed nations have become such overbearing abusive *****-holes it's safer to live in the 3rd world... thank god they don't have the money in Africa for any of this *****.
Everyone moves over to Linux in one big jump. - smashblu, on 05/20/2009, -2/+8Thank God we live in the U-nited States of America, God bless America and something about Jesus.
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of thing starts catching on. When did "liberal" start meaning "nanny"? - HeavyWave, on 05/20/2009, -1/+7Child abuse is not even such a big issue in the first place. And how the hell would filters prevent it when it mostly happens inside the family anyway? Are they trying to say someone gets obsessed with children on the internet then gets outside and rapes a child? It's like turning from straight to gay. No one ever does that, ask gay people.
- Phearce, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5And as a bonus, both of those causes have an indeterminate end! They can go on forever!
PS - don't forget the "war on drugs" - BigStinkGuide, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5I hate children, obviously because I question filtering trials in my country. It was found here that the official filter blacklist in trial was blocking such things for example as a dentist's website. When Australia's Communications Minister was asked to explain, he said that the Russian Mafia had hacked the dentist and so all was justified. The minister's technical account of the scenario however, exposed him to be telling one lie after another.
- r00fus, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5French Government v6.0? (They are on their 5th republic, ya know).
Makes our US Government v1.27 look a bit low in the numbers game :-) - Jlaugh, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5Funny I grew up with Canadian government healthcare it still is much better than American healthcare. Less bureaucracy, no bills, less waiting, better care, no profit motive, no bankruptcy.
My Aunt owes a quarter million dollars in medical bills here, if she had lived in Canada it would be nothing.
What is idiotic is being dogmatic about a economic system. One size does not fit all. Some things are better taken care of in the public sector and others in the private. - govsucks, on 05/20/2009, -1/+6"We're doing this for the common good."
Is always the trumpet call of collectivist tyranny. - inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5The War on Child Terrorism should be our number one priority.
- prompel, on 05/20/2009, -1/+5Off with their heads!
- Solkre, on 05/20/2009, -0/+4Always "thinking about the children" is what gets you into trouble in the first place!
- r00fus, on 05/20/2009, -0/+4This isn't socialism, it's fascism.
Guess what, Sarkozy isn't a socialist... he's just like his buddy Berlusconni, with the media in his pocket, he is effectively in pure control. - OmegaWolf, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3Child protection and intellectual property are the two heads of Satan that threaten our online rights and freedoms. The people who vaunt this child protection ***** over us care nothing for children. Their true agenda is to turn the Internet into another corporate government-controlled broadcast medium, like radio and TV.
- 300thSpartan, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3I do believe that is ironic.
- inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3Very insightful. Nice to see other people understanding the idea of absolute freedom.
- Jlaugh, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3If you toss of frog in boiling water it will jump out, but if you slowly turn up the heat it will boil to death.
- LouisCipher777, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3you win
- Phearce, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3FTA: "automated camera systems that record the license plates of cars passing by on the motorway"
And linux helps how? Sounds more like you need an iPhone app for that: beep -- smile for the camera! - lashtal, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3what, are there no torrent clients, media players, and paid apps in Linux? You can watch movies, listen music and pirate apps in Linux, just like you did with Windows.
- ladfrombrad, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2Seems like an easy way to get the populus to burn and overturn old Citroën's for sure.
What a neat recycling scheme.. - Narishma, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2morel42: You mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel
- tman84, on 05/20/2009, -1/+3The classic argument for the destruction of rights is "i am not doing anything wrong so it won't affect me" Laws against freedom and liberty always affect you, and ultimately will affect your children even more. Do you want them growing up in a government approved world?
- MacParrot, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2Or we could combine them!
Fight against the children! - inactive, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2I didn't put it together because I don't have your level of disconnect from reality. The two issues have nothing to do with each other. If you ever did any research you would know that France has a much higher ranking in terms of health care than we do, but even that doesn't matter because I can't recall anyone saying that we should have the French system.
- iocc, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2FRANCEFAIL IS FAILING
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