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- Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4While GoogleStarOffice might lend some visibility and credability to OpenOffice, I really don't see what I would have to gain since I'm already sold on OpenOffice 2.0.
Haven't Googles apps been a tad Windowscentric? Talk, Earth, Picasa... they're all Windows only.
Unless the GoogleOS is going to be ReactOS made spiffy, it seems like they are limiting themselves to a place I know I am intent on leaving behind. Namely Microsoft and their DRM tyrany.
I don't even see decent support for OS X.
My mantra for adopting OpenSouce or freeware these days is "CROSS PLATFORM"! If you want to own my desktop, ou better be on all of them. - lollerskates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Google, in 20 years, will be bashed by slashdot and Microsoft will be the next Xerox.
- kilodelta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4whats next? GBox360?
- peerk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I heard google is going to release a search engine in the coming months.
- gsteff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It can't be done.
I really, really want this to be true, and to succeed. But the challenges are enormous. MS Office is not ready for a frontal assault yet. They're better off adding calendaring and improving their instant messaging functionality, rather that trying to do too much at once. There's just too much inertia for Office still, and people need to slip away from it more gradually. Individuals that already use Office already have all their documents in it, and the decision makers for businesses, etc that buy large volume of Office licenses are not going to switch to something that is new, revolutionary, and risky. It might be in their best interests to switch, but they still won't. This has to be done more sneakily... if this is true, its a mistake on Google's part. - stevex0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 Screw this google is not impressing me at all these days. They release an IM client but it is just a re branded gaim client with a viop add on that I can't use because it's windows only. No thanks I will stick with real gaim and skype for my communications. I can fit both on a flash drive and run them on any machine windows or linux which I can't do with google talk.
That was just the IM client which sucked and now they are taking aim at open office. I use this already and I don't need a google logo up in the top corner it won't add to the experience. Acctually I am thinking it will probably take away from open office because they will probably just rebrand it and release it for windows only.
If all google has is cash from selling add space to purchase the rights to already free software and a name to slap on it that is a pretty weak strategy if you ask me. I for one will not use this if it ever does come out nore will I use Ggimp or Gfox or Gmplayer or Gubuntu or Gwifi. I already get all of this stuff for free and I don't need it rebranded and explained that the G makes it better it's simply not true. Run linux ***** microsoft, ***** google, it's not the size of the company that makes them evil it's Ggreed. - scbysnx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the question is... will they rename it star office beta?
- ProAm500, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have to think that within the next year or two, the shoe is gonna drop on Google...
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think within the next year, people will start to see Google in a different light...
- MikhoohkiM, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google for President
- Ir0n_mE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I actually laughed when I saw this, this is too funny. Microsoft is being killed.
- ^^^^, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Google – Re-badges a free OS product so it can push ads and never reward the hard work of the original developers – Good.
Microsoft – Buys a product and actually pays the developers for the hard work people put into it. – Evil.
Google – Re-badges an OS product that is not worth developing form scratch so they can push ads. – Genius.
Microsoft – Buys out a company to get a product that is not worth developing form scratch. – Unoriginal.
Google – Makes you give up all privacy as to information that is stored and sent through with them to use to push ads – Totally fine.
Microsoft – Makes you validate that the OS you are using is not pirated – A violation of privacy.
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Google will need to make a return on their cash burn, the only thing they have to make money from reading your personal data and frigging adds EVERYWHERE. Can't wait :) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Gaining nothing. It makes more sense to support cross-platform web solutions, like gmail."
Their's a difference between e-mail and IM. E-mail is completely standardized, IM isn't. You can read this http://www.livejournal.com/users/nugget/97081.html - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Google has come out with a successful internet search engine, moderate email system and not much else. I don't get how people are comparing Microsoft to Google. Microsoft dominates the software industry by leaps and bounds. This is like comparing some three year old to Michael Jordan in his prime.
Google does make a great search engine (though still lacking in the design department, very very badly), but they're no where near the level of expertise that Microsoft is. - Shucker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is like having to choose between following Hitler or Mussolini. Yeah, I run WinXP and Google is my SE and their SideBar is on my desktop, but I'm certainly not gonna be waving their banners for all the world to see. Google is not the "chosen one" delivered to us to free us from our (voluntary) slavery to MS. They want our souls and our firstborn just as much as Bill and Steve.
- matriculated, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I was kind of hoping Mozilla was going to bring an office suite thru XUL. It'll be interesting to see what Google has come up with. I hope it's not just the calendaring program everyone has been digging.
- schumi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Scoble is also blogging this.
http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/10/03.html#a11352 - canyonblue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it is exciting isn't it? microsoft is a fantastic company but even the Titanic sinks. Apple and Google for the first time ever are making very, very real dents in the armor of Microsoft. Apple dominates music. Google attacking on IM, search, the desktop, OFFICE, and more. Microsoft is like a battleship, trying to turn frantically as the dive bombers hit it time and time again. But a dying dog is dangerous...
- gsteff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I believe it's possible - even likely. Microsoft makes it's biggest profit on MS Office. Google is going to hit MS where it hurts - right in the profit."
What does this have to do with anything? Google's purpose is not to kill Microsoft, as much as we'd like it to be. You could argue that Microsoft wants to kill Google, and therefore Google wants to hurt MS back in self defense, but honestly, Google has MUCH more to lose in a war with MS that MS does, and for now, its definitely in their business interests not get dragged into unprofitable crusades like this. - ArtVandelay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1more background:
http://beta.news.com.com/Google,+Sun+plan+partnership/2100-1012_3-5887923.html? - anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1"StarOffice? What the hell is that and why is Google ***** on it's name by using it?"
What's Star Office? Google it :P - jojofreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i just say PLEASE!! i really think this has alot of value .. many users will benefit from this innovation (not just a microsoft buzz word anymore). And yeah google stock is going no where but up.
- chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google products worth using thus far: Search and Gmail.
Why do people love them so much again? Because they think they will get a job there and get free lunch and 20% of their time to work on their own stuff? No love here. - Hazza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0THey cannot rebrand open office because it is public domain a GPL.
if google were to 'buy/rebrand' open office and make money out of it, then they would be violating that license. You cannot apply a new licence to open source content. It simply isn't legal. The license belongs to the public domain and the copyright on individual modules of code in it is property of the people who wrote that code. You cannot buy intellectual property. The reason why it would seem that you 'relinquish copyright' when you put work in the public domain, is because you simply brand that work with an irreversable public license (GPL)
Sure, google came out with picasa etc, but they were commercial licenses to begin with. Google's only way to contribute to open office would be for it to donate to the development, contribute to the development and distribute it. It could not put ads in it. - ArtVandelay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This had better be good.
- ah802, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Bloomberg has the announce..
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aG0aGm1QSwsQ&refer=top_world_news# - matcrawf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0purchasing a few more shares of GOOG as we speak :-P
- strangnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0chriskzoo: you forgot Google Earth...
- number8888, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google is so becoming like Microsoft it's scary, but at least their stuff works!
- unreal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Its possible that this will not be a beta release. If anyone remembers sun offered the Star Office 8 beta back in July. It was basically a OpenOffice 2.0 beta version with more templates and clip art. I just hope this program dosent have adds all over the place, but who knows Picasa is awesome.
- neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google would love to kill microsoft.. make their own operating system that looks like windows but is called Google OS... or Partner up with (hopefully) Apple.. and learn a lesson or two about marketing and style.
- opticsnake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All I can say at this hour in the morning is YES, YES, YES, YES, YEEESSSS!!!
- junkfood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://digg.com/software/Joint_effort_from_Google_and_Sun_-_online_Office_perhaps_ from early yesterday afternoon
- explorer509, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Microsoft = The Borg, Google = species 8472
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@myrmidon:
Introduce them to CSS, possibly the folks who, you know, does design for a living. Rather than barely any color and actual style to it and people call it genious. - anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0""So, it's basically a Jabber account that uses a gmail account as "screename" and synchs with gmail. And, again, it can be used with the (ad free) GAIM."
gtalk runs on google's private server, disconnect from rest of the jabber network. Don't worry, once ad is in place, they'll kick gaim users off their network."
Gaining nothing. It makes more sense to support cross-platform web solutions, like gmail. - trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0But I already have that with open office.. and it's free.. and no corporate branding (well besides Sun).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i bet it will store all your private documents on google server, LOL LOL LOL
- ArchonSG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think this is another strategic partnering of two companies. I have been a long time user of Star Office (now open office 2.0) simply because I don't think paying $500.00++ per license for stuff that I don't really need except of a word processor, a simple spread sheet and a presentation software that I'll use maybe 4 times a year.
Enters open office.
The problem though is that try as best they can, open office can't truly fully convert documents from MS Word simply because has thier own funky code or so it seems.
Enters google now, hopefully giving Open Office greatly needed exposure and I hope truly start people thinking of alternatives instead of being bloody lemings and use *only* MS Office products.
Who knows, Google is in it for the money for sure, so getting people to change thier habbits about what they use is definitely a start to get you to start using *thier* stuff. If on the sidlines it benefits everyone because everything become more OSS related all the better. - spade, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I knnow this sounds crazy, nad I feel odd writing it, but does Google have the capital to buy Sun, or some aspect of Sun? It's probably just StarOffice, but I couldn't get the thought out of my head.
- modpancake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0So, will this be free or what?
- heydigital, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I use Google, I use OpenOffice, but I have to say:
HAHAHAHAHA!! - kungfustickman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I kind of feel sorry for those Open Office guys. They stole away one of what looked to be one of their best people. Don't you feel like Google is stealing their glory? Is that a bad thing? Oh well.
- anagami, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0""You can use GAIM with Google under Linux or Mac."
google will insert ad into gtalk sooner or later, they're just waiting for more users to join, before they can start placing ads."
So, it's basically a Jabber account that uses a gmail account as "screename" and synchs with gmail. And, again, it can be used with the (ad free) GAIM. - gsteff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"gtalk runs on google's private server, disconnect from rest of the jabber network. Don't worry, once ad is in place, they'll kick gaim users off their network."
I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that this isn't true. Google has made a point of promoting how interoperable their IM service is. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0youi can read this
http://www.livejournal.com/users/nugget/97081.html
"Sadly, though, Google has chosen not to embrace this most wonderful aspect of Jabber. Instead, they've created just another isolated IM network. As a Google Talk user, a person has a jabber address (@gmail.com, mirroring their email address) but the Google Jabber servers do not talk with the other Jabber servers on the net. A Google Talk user is just as cut off from the world as an AIM user is." - flipper5311, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i think of course in BETA,because even though the programme is pretty good but google dont want to be responsible for their free releases until they really are sure.what do you expect from free stuffs??and i hope google will not become $google$ once they take over the industry.
- craigtheguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Looking forward to tomorrow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"So, it's basically a Jabber account that uses a gmail account as "screename" and synchs with gmail. And, again, it can be used with the (ad free) GAIM."
gtalk runs on google's private server, disconnect from rest of the jabber network. Don't worry, once ad is in place, they'll kick gaim users off their network. - BluParadox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The most significant thing about this is that it ammounts to an all-out declaration of war against Mircosoft. "We're not content with search, we want all you business"
I had an intesting thought though, could the fact that mozilla incorperated have anything to do with google and a possible google browser? It's possible. -
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