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- cersad, on 11/14/2007, -2/+103What this bill is saying is that protecting the intellectual products of the entertainment industry is more important than providing the education of thousands of Americans. The MPAA does not belong in education policy.
- rebelcommander, on 11/14/2007, -2/+81It's not like college costs enough as it is. Thank god they want us to open up the "office of undergraduate file sharing control" and have 40 guys sit in a room trying to track down all of the students sharing files!
- darkstar949, on 11/13/2007, -1/+64The article mentions this - "The most objectionable part of the bill is the part that could force schools into signing up for music subscription services" - and that is most likely the worst part of this bill. The majority of it can at least be understood to some extent, but forcing colleges to provide an alternative seems to exceed the bounds of what the government should be allowed to do as you can block access to P2P traffic with free tools, but a subscription service costs money and the law is trying to force the college to buy a product that they many not want, need, nor support.
- latova, on 11/13/2007, -11/+67Plenty of space for you americans up here in canada :D
- Fhwqhgads, on 11/13/2007, -5/+52***** THE **AA
- hydroplane, on 11/13/2007, -1/+46Just what this country needs, more money for corporate welfare and less for education.
- JD52, on 11/14/2007, -3/+47In 5-10 years none of this will mean anything. The creators are taking back their music from the big corporations and in most cases see file sharing as a good thing. ***** the RIAA and ***** the Man.
- TritonX, on 11/13/2007, -1/+31Well,you know what it means... time for a new protocol.
- inactive, on 11/13/2007, -3/+32thats awfully nice of you but i doubt the majority of canadians want any more americans up there
- dynacrylic, on 11/13/2007, -1/+30'The most objectionable part of the bill is the part that could force schools into signing up for music subscription services. In order to keep that beloved federal aid money flowing, universities would have to "develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property." '
In regards to your "It's not like college costs enough as it is", the above statement *may* raise tuition even more. I can't see universities wanting to lose their federal aid, so they'll most likely throw the subscription costs back on the students. I guess that's where everyone's "student technology fees" are going to. - JasonCox, on 11/13/2007, -2/+27"...College Opportunity and Affordability Act..."
I call *****, stoping P2P traffic wont make college affordable. - lilbitmoreslyk, on 11/13/2007, -1/+24What the heck man? They will cut off federal aid to all the students if the university decides to respect net neutrality and privacy? College should care about my projects and grades not my god damn file sharing.
- RST1123, on 11/13/2007, -1/+24I didn't know the RIAA called the shots in congress.
- crackedlogic, on 11/14/2007, -3/+22You're all guilty of thought crimes. Please turn yourselves in immediately.
- atheinostic, on 11/13/2007, -1/+18Want to stop this from becoming law?
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/ ...
http://www.house.gov/writerep/ - jerrycan, on 11/13/2007, -1/+17As long as your last name isn't Bush, come on up! You people are nice! Bring some BBQ!
- jaewon223, on 11/13/2007, -1/+17if rudy gets elected president i might actually
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....................................... - gusevx, on 11/13/2007, -1/+15I read this earlier this morning. What does file-sharing and the ability to attend a university have in common? Nothing. Except big business and politics, if you prefer to list them separately.
- bimtott, on 11/13/2007, -0/+14None of this is reasonable.
Higher education is about free access to ideas and information. A college should not be extorted into keeping a backwards, consumer-hating industry on life support.
University Presidents need to stand in opposition of this, and our government should be ashamed of itself for acting on behalf of such a doomed and corrupt group of industry executives, who have little interest in the public who wants to enjoy art, or the artists who want to create it. - TheHydrogens, on 11/13/2007, -1/+14Yeah, just like roads facilitate drive-bys, alleyways facilitate muggings, and airlines facilitate blowing up buildings. We need to stop funding roads, stop people from having alleyways between buildings, and stop flying altogether! It is all the fault of the people that made these things possible, and we should punish every single person that uses roads, alleyways, or airplanes!
- Kelgann, on 11/13/2007, -0/+12If they start filtering certain content, they lose the excuse of being a common carrier. Then they need to filter even more content, to make sure nothing objectionable is getting through. It just can't be sustained with something as big as the internet.
- Dominea, on 11/13/2007, -1/+13Why does our congress continually push crap legislation?
- PopcornDave, on 11/13/2007, -1/+13Maybe they want all us Americans to overtake Quebec so that the same language, well sort of, is spoken throughout Canada.
- colinjay, on 11/13/2007, -1/+13this is what happens when the music companies buy votes. we get stupid legislation like this.
the best part is that right now tuition costs are increasing exponentially... WHY would the gubmint feel that this is the best use of its resources?
FOLLOW THE MONEY! - freezeout, on 11/13/2007, -0/+11why is educational financial aid being linked to appeasing large corporations? Is that even legal? Maybe this will be a new trend, for example no aid if your school does not have a McDonalds and Taco Bell in it's cafeteria.
- objectcode, on 11/13/2007, -0/+11***** THE **AA
- galaxym100, on 11/13/2007, -2/+13I find this situation hilarious. The "Progressives" are paying back their Hollywood buddies by extorting universities ( also run by "Progressives") and placing the entire financial burden on the backs of the working people of the country. Maybe Pelosi and her comrades should start calling themselves what they really are "Oppressives"
- willyjlyles, on 11/13/2007, -2/+13I've got an idea: rather than punish individual lawbreakers for their illegal activities, let's just punish everybody in their general vicinity. That way we can save a ton on that whole "investigation" thing.
In fact, since some people might steal stuff, let's just go ahead and make everybody pay for anything that someone might steal, that way nobody can take anything without paying. - pentalive, on 11/13/2007, -0/+10I keep hearing that the Democrats are the friends of "the little guy". Obviously college students are not considered "little guys."
- dynacrylic, on 11/13/2007, -3/+12Correct.
- eatsushi, on 11/13/2007, -2/+10man, 2007 sucks.
- MacEnvy, on 11/12/2007, -0/+8Refusing to become an enforcement tool of a commercial entity (xxAA) is not the same as facilitating illegal activity. If the RIAA and MPAA want to save their dying business model, there are better ways to do it than to force every possible conduit of data transfer to monitor for file sharing activities. It's neither feasible nor appropriate for colleges to be mandated to cooperate with the shady pseudo-legal dealings and coercive efforts of corporate conglomerates.
- tendonut, on 11/13/2007, -0/+7And i'm sure it will effect people who don't even live on campus, thus wouldn't be doing any file sharing. I will be pissed if my technology fee goes up any more when I am just taking 3 classes this semester, none of which involve computers (sadly).
- cecinestpasvrai, on 11/13/2007, -1/+8This story was sort of posted yesterday, but it seems pertinent enough to allow the multiple copies. This initiative seems near impossible to enforce on campuses. Everyone I know (at schools across the country) share music mainly on enclosed school networks. Itunes makes this ridiculously easy. There's a huge amount to be shared, and as far as I know, little way to trace it. Here's to Aiding and Abetting:
Ourtunes: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/15730
MyTunes: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/File-Sharing ... - clubby, on 11/13/2007, -0/+7How could you not be aware of that? It's been going on for years now!
- MissingScrews, on 11/14/2007, -4/+11In other news, students living on campuses have decreased dramatically...
- MaxPayne3476, on 11/13/2007, -0/+6Yea, you guys have the CRIA - that scares me more then the RIAA, cause they've been slightly successful! Though if a few choice candidates are elected in the United States next election, I've seriously considered moving up to the Montreal/Mt. Tremblant area! I love it up there and will be there in January for a trip.
- EuphopiaB, on 11/13/2007, -0/+6But do to have privacy until otherwise proven guilty.
"Nothing to hide" is a failed argument used by fascism. - Putts335, on 11/13/2007, -0/+6***** THE **AA
- Hittman6, on 11/13/2007, -1/+7Watching that pathetic piece of propaganda should make anyone scream.
- joshua5, on 11/12/2007, -1/+7Just another step in turning our higher education centers into places to mold us into good collective consumers rather than institutions of independent thinking.
- AriaStar, on 11/13/2007, -1/+7From America? Please tell me how. You have shouts disabled for non-friends. I'm so frustrated I spent part of the night crying. Not to spam a blog, but I started this one http://boundforcanada.livejournal.com/ a few days ago to start keeping track and to air my frustrations and maybe get input.
- rsims17, on 11/12/2007, -0/+5Its the copyright holders legal responsibility to protect there copyright, else it becomes void. saying the ISP in this case the college has an ethical responsibility is similar to claiming GM, Ford, etc. should place in GPS controlled governors to restrict cars to the speed limit of the road you are on (true the average car will cut power at a specific speed but that is well above 65 or 70). The duty of protecting the copyright comes down to the music label, and clinging to their horrible corrupt and flawed business model.
- Brian48216, on 11/13/2007, -1/+6this goes beyond just stopping the bt protocol. it means that no matter what kind of protocol is implemented, colleges are responsible to police the data flowing over their networks.
- AriaStar, on 11/12/2007, -1/+6I'm actively in the process, but it looks like it can take up to two years. I also need $10,138 in cash available to me as I don't have a sponsor, among thousands in other fees and a maze of legal paperwork and it seems like each needs to be done first and each expires quickly. the process isn't simple like a lot of people make it sound. It almost seems as if the road to getting into Canada is getting much tougher for Americans. They're turning down some visitors at the border and requiring VISAS for many, and even a visitor visa can take six months. Getting a police certificate from the FBI takes another 16-18 weeks.
But...I'm working on it. Everything about the US makes me feel like I'm suffocating. - bitteroldmann, on 11/13/2007, -1/+6Things don't seem to be too much better up north when it comes to file-sharing. Take Demonoid.com getting shut down by the CRIA, for instance.
- MacEnvy, on 11/12/2007, -0/+5@ PA42
No, I am not a pirate. My panties are in a bunch because I work in IT at a University, and this impacts our day-to-day. It's going to suck when money comes out of my operating budget because we now need a "copyright compliance officer" due to a federal mandate that amounts to forcing one private entity (the college) to enforce the agenda of another private entity (the xxAA). That's why I'm upset. - tendonut, on 11/13/2007, -0/+5I live seconds from the Canadian border. I am very tempted to make that hour and a half drive to Toronto and rent a new place.
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