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- Stumpfarmer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+71If there were virtual coffee to spill on the desk, I would buy it.
- dave_colorado, on 10/12/2007, -6/+56A 3D MICROSOFT BOB!!!
my life is complete... - cogen, on 10/12/2007, -5/+49This... is really cool to watch. Check out the YouTube demo, as it conveys the concepts just fine and takes less time to load. (the hip hop version is short and... well... yeah.)
I can't comment on whether or not this would be *useful*, but I guess it depends on how you're used to, or how you'd like to, interact with your computer. - iluvatar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45because it doesn't look very usable. I'll admit it's a very cool concept, but it doesn't seem very practical
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35While this is cool to use, whatever happened to alphabetical order. Spotlight finds my documents in a flash. If you ask me this is actually a step backwards. The computer desktop was designed to replace the real desktop because it's makes it easier to find things. Why simulate the messy confusing way most of us used to do things.
- DesertSquirrel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31It does seem cool and all, but I just don't see how it's a "major" improvment from the current desktop. Most computer-litterate people are capable of keeping a neat and organized desktop while the average consumer that doesn't I doubt will be able to figure out this one (god help them when they try to figure out the lasso commands). Still dugg for thinking outside the box though.
- ZenKai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28God, like I don't have enough clutter sitting on my REAL desktop. Just what I need, a convenient way of losing the word document I was working on. Damn, I could SWEAR I set it down here just a minute ago...
- chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21in other news, windows vista has been delayed until 2009 for "innovation related" reasons..
- Bdog2g2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21great!!! now my virtual desk can be the exact replica of my real one....wait....where is my real one?
- shockingbird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19How would you know the name of the document?
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20It started to really look cool when the items were larger and previews of the actual document. I like.
- FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18@81v3d07g0d
"And my desktop almost never ever has icons or files on it, my computer is like my living space if its a mess then what does that say about me."
wouldn't that make you "an empty void with no substance" then? - odyss3y, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21youre claiming a company who felt a 1 button mouse was usable enough for users wouldnt use this idea because its not usable?
- FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15
Holy crap! Look at the bling on that guy's hand! - SergeantSavage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I would spend all my time throwing ***** around and knocking over piles. Sweet.
- 81v3d07g0d, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19It seems like no one gets it. This is a very preliminary experimentation with e whole new kind of interface. I think that it is quite possibly the direction of the future. Are all of you so married to the keyboard and mouse that you cant imagine something outside of that? think ten years form now using this kind of desktop with perhaps a huge muti input touch display. I can barely imagine something more perfect. I for one would use this software is it was available, bringing my files to a much more physical meaningful reality.
And my desktop almost never ever has icons or files on it, my computer is like my living space if its a mess then what does that say about me. My desktop is like a zen garden everything in harmony. - FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12
"File type icons are about useless, really. Can any of you imagine your workflow being aided by this?"
Whoooaaaaa there!!!!
"Oh, it's the one in the corner under a few other PDFs and next to a couple JPEGS"
This is *exactly* how I work with my desktop and folders. If I'm looking for a file in a folder the first thing I do *with my eyes* is filter on the icon type, then I look at the name -but only if it's a new file, because I link the file's location on screen with the name. In other words it's soley based on icon look and placement. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that does it like this...
wtf is going on with digg! Error entering capcha? you didn't show me any capcha you git! - T-Maaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9It's funny that nothing can fall off the edge of the desk - it reminds me just a little _TOO_ much of a hemmed-in cubicle desk... kinda claustrophobic.
Being a visual designer-type, I like it -- my personal requested additions for a final version would be:
1)Fully customizable workspace (e.g., different blotters, calendars, desktop surface types, colors, etc.) and tools that can sit out, like a calculator, paper clips to hold files together... and the quintessential Red Stapler that randomly dissappears from your desk. :-)
2) If you can stick stuff to the walls, a portion of the wall area should look like a bulletin board.
3) A "realism" preference toggle, to allow stuff to fall off the edges of the desk, piles falling over, etc. There needs to be an element of "oh hell, I just knocked my pile of Control-Alt-Chicken videos into the dog's water bowl."
4) The ability to not only crumple up files (as shown in the video), but also to toss the crumpled files at a trash can off to the side -- an added bonus if you were able to miss as well. :-)
5) A file cabinet drawer off to the side, with color coded and/or labeling system implemented
This is probably why I'm not allowed in the development lab anymore... - jokerr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Agreed. It looks cool, can provide minutes if not hours of fun at first but it's not practicle.
- FIGJAM, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Yes, the Apple Research Labs did a concept desktop like this back in the early 90's. It was called, amazingly, "Piles". What goes around, comes around.....
- TimmyGUNZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7While it's definitely a cool concept, I think something like this is best suited for use inside an application rather than a system-wide desktop. Many users place files on their desktop that are important and hiding them under piles can cause one to forget about them.
A program like iPhoto or iTunes would be perfect for this. To visually flip through your library of photos and music and organize into visual groups could make using these programs even easier and more "real world" than they are now. - Bdog2g2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"but if I wanted to open something in the middle of a pile .. that would be hard. "
that's where the virtual thumb comes in..
I agree with this implementation being only a 3D perspective, not a true environment. - Warptera, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11That is the biggest waste of time to ever make it to a computer desktop. Who would want to spend 5 minutes shuffling through stacks of documents on their actual desktop, let alone their computer desktop?
- mrmidgetman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I would totally download this just to have a messy desktop for my pc also. that way it could match my normal desktop. They only need to have downloadable scraps of paper and burned cds and such. (legally burned of course)
- pheen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Apple did have the "piles" concept years ago but never implemented it into the OS.
Here's an article on their piles: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/04/23/deep_inside_apples_piles/ - eliteturbo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8because thats the finished product and all...
- mhlester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Couple it with the Sudden Motion Sensor in the MB(P) and you're half way towards a similar disaster. Could be pretty neat to be able to jostle your desktop just by ...jostling it.
- neoian, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7dugg for the ring at the begining of the video
- thevoltmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6So with my HDAPS enabled Thinkpad or MacBook, when I flip it over, will the icons scatter or will it erase them like an etch-a-sketch
- D4V1S, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5this + a touch screen OLED display = hella tight Minority Report browsing
- crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well that's true for this early prototype.
There's no reason the final version couldn't have a user-movable camera angle. - david76, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I love his pronounciation of lasso... Las-ewe as opposed to Las-oh.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Since Windows Overlapping Windows in 1980's I haven't seen a great improvement on user interfaces, I am sure these will give ideas to the guys of Microsoft that are now so worried about Bill Gate's departure, maybe they have to keep an eye on this product and try to make the future of desktop computing more intuitive and easy as these concept in 3D does. I want to imagine the future of word processors and spreadsheets behind these 3D technology it's just time to innovate operating systems for the cappability of new Graphic Cards, not just change little colors or putting transparency. I hope Microsoft engineers see this concept and try to make something like this by their own.
- renegade334, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Question:
if you have 25 notpad files on your desktop, with no names, how do we know which one is instruction manual for the 3D desktop??? - david76, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10You can test out this kind of functionality now. It's called 52 card pickup. Except in this case you have a bunch of icons that are identical from which you're supposed to derive meaning.
- BadgerOU, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just curious ... why would it take over a century? I mean, the general GUI desktop idea was first used less than 50 years ago, and adoption usually happens faster, not slower, on subsequent generations.
Also, why would a huge (like 30") display cost SOOOO much in the future? (emphasis added for ... emphasis) Remember in the 80's when your computer screen was green-tinted, and you dreamed that one day, maybe, someone would produce a color monitor that you could afford? - algorythm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Pretty cool looking but not very useful or efficient. "I think i put the document under this stack of crap in this corner. hum, nope, must be over here.."
I couldnt imagine my desktop looking like my room, where I have trouble looking for stuff already. Although, I would like my room to look like my desktop.
socks.doc, pants.doc
drag and drop dirtysocks.doc into recycle bin.
left click, arrange. ooo thats nice... - worthSaying, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Kudos to those of you who only have couple of files on your computer's desktop. Most impressive.
Some of you sound legitimately ticked that someone's trying something new. As if, somehow, you're going to be forced to give up your ways and have to learn to use this in the future. Not likely.
Xerox wasn't puttin much faith in the 2D GUI it first developed, either. It took Apple to bring it to the masses. Then, Microsoft played Bob. Apple played with Piles. It didn't work out for them, but there might still be a place for 3D. I'd say especially with graphic files.
Also, don't underestimate the fact that, to a lot of folks (especially young folks), a computer is a toy. The more fun the interface the more likely they are to gravitate toward it.
Don't forget how visual and spatial people are. That's why 2D GUI's are such a hit in the first place. If you know exactly where a particular file is, it's probably because you placed it in the virtual space it occupies, and know how to get back to it. Just like your car in a parking lot-- sometimes your forget.
By the way, isn't a folder just a "stack" or "pile" of files in a container (folder) instead of in a corner? It seems that you can organize both and search within both just as easily. Although, I agree, filenames would be required, but I bet that's already on the developer's to-do list.
3D could just be the next step in this exciting new adventure. Err, until direct brain-implanted interfaces come of age. Oh, have no doubts, they're coming! - crimson117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This would be perfect for organizing photos. I recently took about 500 digital photos from a trip, printed about half of them, then proceeded to make logical piles on the coffee table and organize them. I wish I could have done that easily on my computer before printing them!
- hobo343, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4put those 500 dollar video cards to actual work. i'd try this where do we sign up
- umrgregg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9I think this would be even better suited for use on some of those huge desktop touchscreen monitors that are out rather than a tablet PC.
Regardless, it's a neat interface (could use some polish) for tactile monitors and one hell of a masters thesis project. - DarthTurducken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3My real one is not buried under pr0n
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3digg for crumpling the slashdot site
- Septimus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Completely useless, yet brilliantly executed.
- lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10I wish I could download this and use it as my current desktop :(
- Goner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Touch screens? Maybe for small devices.. For a 30" (or bigger) screen? Not practical.
Do you know what sort of sweat I'd work up over the course of the day if I had to wave my arms around to do everything I currently do with my mouse?
If you've seen the demos of monkeys lpaying video games with brain implants, then you know what the REAL future of click and drag interfaces will be. It will be an implant (or maybe a band-aid on your head) that will allow you to control the cursor with your mind. No more carpal tunnel, no more havig to let go of the mouse to type, etc.
Of course, buying Visine stock NOW would be advisable... - Switch22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Wait, why make your computer look like a mess if we've already got a system that keeps them organized.
Piles? Please, we have a thing called folders, and oh wait, we can drag and drop files from folder to folder, just like the magical "drag n drop" they talk about with piles in the video.
And you can "neatly" throw all your pdfs into a corner so it's impossible to tell which one is which. And then you have the option of crumpling your files before you delete them, as if you desktop wasn't messy enough.
It'll probably sell because it has that fisheye feature, just looks at macs. - amish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This might not actually be that great for organizing your files. But lets say you are working on some word document and need 10 different sources, it would be nice to lay down the other sources on your desktop and work on the document, much like your real desktop. Also, haveing a 30" monitor for such task would make this thing superb and improve productivity by a significant amount.
- iluvdrbonner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It would be really cool to see this implemented with Thumbnails of files that show a preview. Linux does this pretty well right now and would really help the functionality of this product. I don't really see it going to far otherwise. But when the video described the pictures and open windows I was very impressed and it looked very helpful but for the countless pdfs and jpgs you can forget it.
- digitalsin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I think this has some serious potential. It is a much more natural way of approaching the desktop and organization. The brain acts much more intuitively by icon and association, not file names. The idea of piles and stacking is perfect.
I really hope they get funding for this, it looks solid. Plus that guy had bling. -
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