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- ishtari, on 01/11/2008, -1/+98Seems like a robber saying he takes your money to save you from other robbers.
- inactive, on 01/11/2008, -0/+47Since the only ones who could frontrun your domain name from a search on Network Solutions' search tool is Network Solutions, it looks like the ONLY ones they are protecting you from is THEM.
- verge, on 01/11/2008, -0/+44defends squating... there i fixed it for them
- Emused, on 01/11/2008, -1/+25HAHAHAHAHAHAH, their PR dept. is on crack.
- owenkun, on 01/11/2008, -1/+23When I was young I was really happy that so many wallet inspectors were able to verify that my wallet was in order.
Strange how I never had any money, though. - tomz17, on 01/11/2008, -0/+21QUOTE : "Frontrunning is registering the domain and then reselling it to the person who initially wanted it at an inflated price."
This is EXACTLY what netsol is doing when you use their whois... they are registering the domain themselves, and then extorting you for the inflated price of $35 to register it. - BSheep, on 01/11/2008, -1/+21I call BS. Did they really say that with a straight face?
- Terr01, on 01/11/2008, -1/+19Squatters, yeah. Yeah, "frontrunner" isn't a term I've seen before in this context. (Is it another new label for the sake of shallow appeal by the Web 2.0 crowd?)
- BoneStamp, on 01/11/2008, -1/+19I don't see how this stops frontrunners when NetSol release the names back to a specific list at the end of the hold - seems like it helps frontrunners. Coincidently, helping frontrunners is great for NetSol's bottom line.
- brahmafear, on 01/11/2008, -0/+16If they do this "automatically," couldn't a group of motivated people (or scripts written by such a group) simply search all day on ridiculous and bogus domain names which would cause NetSol to register them?
Not that I'm suggesting such an action.... - linaman2, on 01/11/2008, -0/+13I only killed those people so that no one else would kill them. I was protecting them you see.
- Otto, on 01/11/2008, -1/+13Don't worry, I won't be using NetSol ever again after the ***** they've pulled in the past, but this one really takes the cake.
THEY ARE INDEED FRONTRUNNING. Just what the hell do you think they're doing? How do you "hold" a domain? Answer: They REGISTER the domain and then let it go after 4 days (before the 5 day free release window is up). So if you search for a domain at NetSol, it's registered for 4 days. Not only that, but it points at NetSol's webservers, showing a "this domain is available" page.
What they are doing is hideously dirty, and they should have their registrar rights revoked because of it. Any registrar pulling ***** like this should no longer be allowed to be a registrar. - amgamer23, on 01/11/2008, -1/+12Godaddy > NSI
- InetRoadkill, on 01/11/2008, -0/+10ICANN needs to step up to the plate and strip NetworkSolutions of their registry privileges. There's no reason to accept this behavior. It's anti-competitive, abusive, and sleezy.
- sparkweb, on 01/11/2008, -0/+10I'm glad to see this article. I ran into this the other day when searching for a domain with some clients. They had already done the domain search at NSI and then when we went to register at godaddy the domain was no longer available. We paid $35 for the main domain at NSI and $53 for three years worth of domains on the .net and .org variations at GoDaddy.
*This just reinforces my idea that NSI is as bad as Norton* - owenkun, on 01/11/2008, -0/+9I'd suggest just not using NetSol for any of your dealings. There's an absolute wealth of other registrars out there that can provide better service for far less.
Should you go with someone that will register a domain for $1? Of course not, that's stupid. But $35/yr really is outrageous. - jfriend00, on 01/11/2008, -0/+8They say they keep it for 4 days, then release it. The same problem bit me. I was just trying out new domain names at network solutions because they have a nice interface for it. Once I found one I wanted, I started to shop around for where to register it. Now, it's locked out at Network Solutions (hopefully just for 4 days). This is really slimy.
- dgarallenpoe, on 01/11/2008, -0/+8NetSol has a mendacious, predatory, and mean-spirited corporate personality that will probably never change. Their customers are more like unwitting victims. All they do business with are left stretched and bleeding.
- Lansingite, on 01/11/2008, -0/+8If their intent is as rosy as they say it is, it's easy enough for them to stop being evil bastards. All they have to do is add a checkbox to their WHOIS form: "hold if available". It should be unchecked by default, and include a link to an explanation.
- owenkun, on 01/11/2008, -1/+9Sounds like it. Just call it like it is, domain squatters.
- whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -0/+7No, they do not. All registrars get a 5 day grace period in which they don't have to pay. That's the basis of this whole scam.
- Spectre74, on 01/11/2008, -0/+7This is exactly what happened to me 1 1/2 years ago by another company. It lasted ALLOT longer than 4 days. Maybe 4 months or more. It is finally clear now. Hijacked and didn't want to change the name but had no choice if I wanted to. The name was vital to the domain.
- MiDri, on 01/11/2008, -1/+7Just going to go ahead and point out its a rick rolling, due to the lame way it was presented.
- Vektuz, on 01/11/2008, -1/+7Actually, since all registered domain names show up on a more-or-less public list of fresh domain names, they're actually making it easier for squatters to notice interest in a domain and get ready to snap it up for later extortion
- gnews, on 01/11/2008, -0/+6"CEO Champ Mitchell told IDG yesterday that change was coming" Too little too late?
- bxblox, on 01/11/2008, -1/+6stop checking with netsol and it wont b a problem.
- jaredly, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5How long do they keep them for? I made the mistake of searching a name there just to see if it was open. It was then I went to godaddy to buy it for half the price and it was taken. I was like what the heck!
- doctorfungi, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5No, no. I've seen people on crack who talk way more sense than these guys.
- jimmajamma, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5A few things that need explanation:
1. How are they protecting their customers if they
a. In the short term, hold the domain such that ANYONE can reserve the domain - as long as they use NetSol?
b. Allow it to be easily findable by something other than another fresh domain search (http://www.dailychanges.com/detail/?ns=RESERVEDDOM ... ) such that when it is released it can be scapped up?
2. If they truly were trying to protect the customer that did the search wouldn't they ONLY allow THAT SPECIFIC CUSTOMER to reserve the domain within the 4 days?
This new policy is clearly to protect themselves not their customers. It's great that they are getting called out on this. I can't wait to see how this turns out. - inactive, on 01/11/2008, -2/+7So you're a mindless, unimaginative moron who can't think of anything original. Due to your lack of imagination you desperately grasp to a "joke" someone else thought up in a vain and pathetic hope of somehow, someway being remotely amusing. I believe you have met the definition of an "Epic Fail."
- plutorobot, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5Ah, I'm so glad that Network Solutions provides this service. Who better then a fox to guard the henhouse?
- owenkun, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4Are you trying to argue that NetSol has a monopoly on domain name registration?
'Cause that hasn't been true for years now. - bahamutxd, on 01/11/2008, -1/+5Do they pay for holding the domains? If so, why not write a script to search on extremely long random domain names and exploit their greed.
- pcpimpster, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4His name says it all.
- Tomguy, on 01/11/2008, -2/+6It's also ironic that 90% of the ads on digg.com are for NetSol.
And with all of the negative posts about NSI on digg, they haven't pulled the ads.
Has anyone thought why this might be the case? They always say, the best publicity is free, and negative publicity is still publicity. Besides, when was the last time GoDaddy turned a profit? Oh, wait, they haven't. - bahamutxd, on 01/11/2008, -1/+5Lame.
- PhilMoskowitz, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4Do not have anything to do with Network Solutions.
- owenkun, on 01/11/2008, -1/+5At least Peter Norton is geeky in a wholly iconic way. You see Peter Norton and say "Hey, I remember when I used Disk Doctor and Defrag. They were great, too bad that they suck now."
NetSol has always been evil. - whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -0/+4They don't pay anything during the 5 day grace period.
- rafitorres, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4Isn't the real problem here that frontrunners can monitor the list of domains that NetSol is holding and snatch them up as soon as NetSol releases them?
- tavisjohn, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4And NS also fudges the books. I paid fo 5 years, 2 years in they wanted payment! I told them I paid for 5 years, they told me that they lost all their billing data, and would not accept any "proof" I had of previous payment. So I switched the domain over to my hosting service who only charges me $5.00 a year (With my hosting package)!
NS called me a week later and asked me why I switched... I laughed and said, "You stole 3 years of payment from me, why would I do business with someone who steals my money?" They asked if there was anything that they could do to get me back. I responded with, "You could give me 5 years free, but then again you would probably have another problem with your billing computer and try to charge me for it." Then I hung up on them.
NS SCAMMERS!!!! - CoolWind, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3Actually, this is probably an excellent solution to part of the problem, and not because it will cost NetSol any money, but because it will create a cloud of obscurity around any truly useful names.
- pcpimpster, on 01/11/2008, -1/+4Wow, I thought NS couldnt be anymore full of *****... /proven wrong.
No SPF record, wtf, you call that DNS hosting... I hate your ***** guts NS - chapium, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3I believe their actions fall into a gray area. On the one hand, they want to be able to guarantee their claim when a domain is available. On the other hand, the behavior is akin to holding the domain hostage for a few days if you don't want their service.
A good compromise would be to allow the searcher to release the domain or at a minimum provide a disclaimer that searching will put a hold on the domain for several days.
One benefit to their method is the ability to check availability of the domain and have a few days to consider the purchase. - TheCheeta, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3Both of your analogies... well... they suck.
- tavisjohn, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3What does domain squatting have to do with ISP's????
I think you are in the wrong topic. - TheCheeta, on 01/11/2008, -2/+5You are about 3 days late to the party. Welcome to the Internet.
- CrucifiedEgo, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3How exactly does netsol have a monopoly on anything at this point in time?
- chokeaduck, on 01/11/2008, -1/+4The guy from GoDaddy suggested that even a nominal fee (35 cents or something) for each domain "partially squatted or frontrunnered" or whatever would be a suitable solution. Add that up to how many searches NetSol must be going through every day, and it wouldn't pay for them to do this.
- azbmr, on 01/11/2008, -1/+4Nope, after the hold period is over, if the name isn't purchased, they don't pay for it.
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