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- UberNick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+54the powerful and corrupt thank you for your apathy. it enables them to get away with it.
- tdkyo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33I am calling my congresswoman to support the act. Everyone do the same!
- Amplix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25well you're certainly helping...
- UberNick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Your representative's contact info (just enter zip code):
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/congress/?lvl=C
How to call your representative:
http://action.aclu.org/site/PageServer?pagename=AP_calling_congress
How to write to them:
http://action.aclu.org/site/PageServer?pagename=AP_writing_elected_officials - sspooner, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17I'm a Republican and despite the fact this has been submitted by a Democrat, I still support the bill.
- Tony2Nice, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Did just that a few days ago. I highly encourage all those reading to do the same; it's quite easy and takes no time at all to voice your opinion.
- sirplus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17essential. digg this.
- UberNick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I've heard that on a local level, a phone call represents 5 voters while a letter represents 20. So while phone calls are a great way to influence your representatives, letter are even more powerful.
Btw, anyone have a link to stats on this? - adizzle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11If there were more people with open minds like you, the world would be a better place...
- jellyroll713, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12This is huge. This is the law that we've all been waiting for, don't let this opportunity pass! CALL your congress(wo)man today and do YOUR part to save the Internet!
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12good for him. fight the good fight.
- DangerMouse9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8QUOTE from negi:
you know what it does not matter one way or another they will gain a strangle hold on the net like they do everything we cant stop it
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The same thing could have been said about slavery in the 17 and 1800s, the same thing could have been said about segregation, the same thing could have been said about women's sufferage, the same thing could have been said about the nazi death camps.
Saying "well, there's nothing we can do about it, so might as well do nothing" is giving up the fight before it even started. If this is the kind of mentality that you have you may as well starting living very recklessly, after all, you're going to die anyway so you may as well give up now. - youareretarded, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Quote:"people seem to be waking up after the long dark winter of republican oppression."
I'd love to agree with that but unfortunately both parties are to be blamed for the darkness that has fallen over America:( - UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Hopefully our congress people will actually do something for us, the american people, instead of big business.
- jpmatth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7that was a senate bill, from sen. ted stevens of alaska. this bill is in the house.
- tradjik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Want to become involved but don't want to spend too much time? EFF is perfect for you, form letters and information on technical issues being discussed. Simply fill in your address, email, and optional message and you're done! EFF figures out your appropriate congressperson and or senator. It will also email the letter and give you an option to print the letter to send as well.
http://www.eff.org/
Goto the action center and get active! - cybernetic798, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I am sure a good amount of people here use AIM. I went through one by one and IM'd every single person on my buddy list a link to this along with a short explanation. Do the same if you can so we can get this passed!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9How can anyone still be a Democrat? Are you a welfare recipient?
Different sets of ideals are what makes the world go 'round. You should get out and see the rest of the country once in a while, you'll find that most people in the US (contrary to media portrayals) are somewhat conservative - as evidenced by the recent congressional elections and presidential election. Does that bother you? - atmablue, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6A PDF of the text of this bill can be found here: http://markey.house.gov/docs/telecomm/Markey%20Net%20Neutrality%20Act%20of%202006.pdf
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I hope this isn't the one that had the broadcast flag inserted.
- siliconglen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This blog from none other than Tim Berners-Lee would seem to be appropriate here
http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/132 - treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Yay! The Net is safe for a few more years.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Awesome!!! Our politicians are here to save the Intarweb! Thank GOD for our politicians, for without them, the Internet would surely be doomed!
Unreal. - ThatsUnpossible, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Uhh Cerebral... the Democrats standard platform is to promise money to poor folks in exchange for votes... The republicans do it the opposite way. Both Republicans and Democrats pander for votes, it's disgusting, but implying the Republicans give money to the poor is a bit...off.
- kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Now now, there are lots of reasons people are still Republicans.
Why I met a fellow the other day who had miraculously just awoken from 6 years in a comatose state, and had no knowledge of what happened since the Republicans gained control of the entire federal government. We're trying to think of ways of breaking it to him gently, but we keep running into all these hitches.
While he was unconscious, his drivers license expired, and now that he's awake, he keeps telling people he just wants to hop on a plane to go party down in new orleans... - drilldown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If the Government is making rules requiring new limits to be imposed to the FCCs new rules... Since the FCC apparently prefers to hide their rulings, as they NEED to? I say, don't make additional laws to further complicate talking to ones neighbor. Rip the hidden faults out by their teeth. Then, what would "lawmakers" be paid to do? Hold their ground, which it is becoming apparent is not happening. Anyway the FCC apparently did more favors for big business and it's all been sealed away from the people. I prefer free speech to politics any day of the week, the FCC has interfered to the point of deserving major interference... No problem. Hack it out already and quit with the lawmaking!
It's going to be years to extract all the big money laws out of common sense as it is, as if anyone could try. Bush headed the marketing machine and OK'd the arteries to support it, and the FCC built it. My taxes for the advancement of a free country.
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
Unlike govn't I prefer a full roundup on my news. - WeThePeople, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Everyone here has to go out and inform as many people as they can, it's important to let them know about this as most people have no clue whats going on. Some just don't care as we are slowly being sold out to the corporate puppet masters pulling the strings of our representation in Washington. They represent us and I bet not a single person would want greedy corporate leaders controlling the Internet any more then they already do.
I have discussed this with people who basically pay little attention to important news topics and live for gossip, Hollywood or sports (nothing really wrong with that mind you) but too many just can't be bothered. I hope people do just a little more homework and look into the TRUTH about how large corporations try to push their own agenda, basically the people you sent to represent you are representing special interest groups or (friends). People are clueless to all the laws and acts they want to strap to your life, most Americans are not even aware of the real ID act that passed in 05. and I bet most are totally unaware of this issue.
It's just sad, very very sad state of everyones disinterest in their role in government, our founding fathers would be pissed off at our lack of involvement in "OUR" government.
Get out there and tell everyone how much this means to them. - Niffer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Are you implying there is another option to "the party of big government"? Republicans are no better in that respect!
- UNL1M1T3D, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I added this as a bulletin:
Hi,
Do you buy books online, use Google, or download to an iPod? Everything we do online will be hurt if Congress passes a radical law next week that gives giant corporations more control over what we do and see on the Internet.
Internet providers like AT&T are lobbying Congress hard to gut Network Neutrality--the Internet's First Amendment and the key to Internet freedom. Net Neutrality prevents AT&T from choosing which websites open most easily for you based on which site pays AT&T more. BarnesandNoble.com doesn't have to outbid Amazon for the right to work properly on your computer.
If Net Neutrality is gutted, many sites--including Google, eBay, and iTunes--must either pay protection money to companies like AT&T or risk having their websites process slowly. That why these high-tech pioneers, plus diverse groups ranging from MoveOn to Gun Owners of America, are opposing Congress' effort to gut Internet freedom.
You can do your part today--can you sign this petition telling your member of Congress to preserve Internet freedom? Click here:
http://www.civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet?track_referer=706%7C7001042-NkDwta4WNf2VUJE0_RE0Qw
I signed this petition, along with 250,000 others so far. This petiton will be delivered to Congress before the House of Representatives votes next week. When you sign, you'll be kept informed of the next steps we can take to keep the heat on Congress.
Snopes.com, which monitors various causes that circulate on the Internet, explained:
Simply put, network neutrality means that no web site's traffic has precedence over any other's...Whether a user searches for recipes using Google, reads an article on snopes.com, or looks at a friend's MySpace profile, all of that data is treated equally and delivered from the originating web site to the user's web browser with the same priority. In recent months, however, some of the telephone and cable companies that control the telecommunications networks over which Internet data flows have floated the idea of creating the electronic equivalent of a paid carpool lane.
If companies like AT&T have their way, Web sites ranging from Google to eBay to iTunes either pay protection money to get into the "fast lane" or risk opening slowly on your computer. We can't let the Internet--this incredible medium which has been such a revolutionary force for democratic participation, economic innovation, and free speech--become captive to large corporations.
Politicians don't think we are paying attention to this issue. Together, we do care about preserving the free and open Internet.
Please sign this petition letting your member of Congress know you support preserving Internet freedom. Click here:
http://www.civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet?track_referer=706%7C7001042-NkDwta4WNf2VUJE0_RE0Qw
Thanks.
Hopefully word will spread and everything will work out good. I already wrote Carl Levin and explained it to him and so I will let you know his response to everything. - Dgen_X, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4it's not so much which IM client you use...but the message you send
a bit of internet philosophy for you
anyway...I'm calling my Representative in a few minutes, and sending an email - myxyplik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5From what I can tell. it's not. So if you contact your representatives, tell them to support THIS bill and not the one by Ted Stevens.
- NicP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"is that why a 56K modem only pulls 3-4K nowadays on dial-up access accounts whereas on those very same lines a "DSL modem" can pull over 1400K on those very same lines."
a 56k modem only pulls 3-4k on the same lines as a DSL modem because they work in very different ways, a 56k modem makes a phone call to your ISP, it is therefore limited by the bandwidth that a standard phone call is (not much after all it was designed for voice to be intelligable and thats about it). A DSL modem uses the same line as the phone but it uses a different frequency space which makes it independent of the phone line, but still running on the same cable. Make sense? - brenda23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It is not the role of the government to tell me how to run my business. If my company wants to provide a tiered service, we are protected under the constitution to do so.
"Oh! But we can't have the big bad companies screwing up the Internet!" If you don't like it... don't buy service from us. Vote with your dollars, but don't take away my constitutional rights. - chatsukz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I dont get it. How can people expect for AT&T and Verizon to spend billions rolling out a fiber network and then don't make any money off of it? I say vote with your dollars and not more govt. regulations
- Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The problem is that when you tell all of this to someone they will just think you are crazy... I mean it really does start to sound like a plot to a good movie. I remember telling people about sony and the rootkit and the same thing happened.
- echobucket, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I threw this together the other day to perhaps help explain one possible future for the Internet if we don't get Network Neutraility
http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=internetfuture6iv.jpg - tekhneek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree with Tim.
- DruSam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I contacted my Congressmen and women in Michigan. I encourage all of you to do the same for your state. The people still have the power, the problem is too many of us aren't using it.
- Cerebral, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3^^ No sorry wrong answer.
The president FALSELY made it sound like there are terrorists right outside our door with guns and missles in order to get the dumb people of this country to get scared. Also he did something else... to those that are non educated and on welfare and/or poor he gives them an extra $200 on their tax returns as a bonus for voting for him... YAY! - beret9987, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Just spoke to my representative and they support Network Neutrality! Yes!
- BitwiseMcgee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How about all of the tech workers of the country take a page from the immigrants, and not work for a day?
Really, I'd be more intrested to see how the country is effected by such an event, but It would get everyone talking - JohntB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I could choose from Boost, Cingular, Verizon, T-mobile, Amp'd, Helio, or about 100 other cell phone networks. I can choose between two high-speed internet providers: D&E and Comcast. Land-line providers have a geographical (mon/du)opoly in their area, so it is fitting that they are more regulated than a free market.
- Xiol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There's too much apathy. No one cares enough, thinking they can't make a difference.
I can't. I'm in the UK. What would this mean for international net people? - linuxinternet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I have blogged about this before, and I support the SaveTheInternet initiative. The idea of the carriers prioritizing traffic makes me fearful for the future of the Internet. I have my suspicions that it is already happening though, because I have Vonage over Comcast cable. Too coincidentally for my liking, my Vonage call quality has dramatically dropped since Verizon started offering their own VOIP solution a few months back.
My main point, though, is that I believe in the power of the Free Market. If the Bells and Carriers start signing deals and prioritizing based on agreements, doesn't that open the door for "NeutralNet, Inc" to step in and offer a neutral network, free from agreements and traffic shaping of any kind? Wouldn't that be a brand new market? I, for one, would immediately pay a premium to an ISP who could offer neutrality if Comcast inked a deal to prioritize MSN traffic or some such horror.
I realize that the barriers of entry into the Broadband last mile are huge, because of the cost involved in laying the infrastructure to get to homes, but I also know that there are bucket loads of brave and resourceful startups out there who take on the most challenging projects you can possibly imagine. For that reason, I trust the Free Market, while at the same time will support very loudly any legislation to prevent the whole fiasco in the first place.
Then, of course, what happens if the payola works in reverse as well? What if eBay and Comcast sign a deal whereby Comcast will give eBay traffic super priority 1 AND eBay will give Comcast traffic the same prioritization? Then you have another problem, because even if NeutralityNet, Inc carry your data to eBay, eBay might treat you differently because you are not coming from Comcast. Then, I think we have successfully undermined society's freedom so that the Terry Semels and Brian Roberts of the world can have bigger yachts. And that wold be the fault of Congress, the Senate and whomever else didn't step up and prevent this madness. And that would be very sad.
Of course, if eBay does something like that, you have to trust in the Free Market again, that someone will build Neutral-Bay, an eBay clone without payola agreements. - Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I agree, everyone should either call or write and mail a letter regarding this. Don't send an email though, as it seems for some reason or another most representatives tend to ignore emails. If you do not know who your representative is, it can be found using the House of Representatives web site.
http://www.house.gov/ - BritOverseas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Tim gets my vote too
- polartb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This needs to pass the House Committe on Energy and Commerce before it can reach the full House, so if your representative is on that committee, you have a much better shot at helping out than the rest of us! Committee members:
Joe Barton, Texas
Ralph M. Hall, Texas
Michael Bilirakis, Florida
Fred Upton, Michigan
Cliff Stearns, Florida
Paul E. Gillmor, Ohio
Nathan Deal, Georgia
Ed Whitfield, Kentucky
Charlie Norwood, Georgia
Barbara Cubin, Wyoming
John Shimkus, Illinois
Heather Wilson, New Mexico
John B. Shadegg, Arizona
Charles "Chip" Pickering, Mississippi
Vito Fossella, New York
Roy Blunt, Missouri
Steve Buyer, Indiana
George Radanovich, California
Charles F. Bass, New Hampshire
Joseph R. Pitts, Pennsylvania
Mary Bono, California
Greg Walden, Oregon
Lee Terry, Nebraska
Mike Ferguson, New Jersey
Mike Rogers, Michigan
C.L. "Butch" Otter, Idaho
Sue Myrick, North Carolina
John Sullivan, Oklahoma
Tim Murphy, Pennsylvania
Michael Burgess, Texas
Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee
John D. Dingell, Michigan
Henry A. Waxman, California
Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts
Rick Boucher, Virginia
Edolphus Towns, New York
Frank Pallone Jr., New Jersey
Sherrod Brown, Ohio
Bart Gordon, Tennessee
Bobby L. Rush, Illinois
Anna G. Eshoo, California
Bart Stupak, Michigan
Eliot L. Engel, New York
Albert R. Wynn, Maryland
Gene Green, Texas
Ted Strickland, Ohio
Diana DeGette, Colorado
Lois Capps, California
Mike Doyle, Pennsylvania
Tom Allen, Maine
Jim Davis, Florida
Jan Schakowsky, Illinois
Hilda L. Solis, California
Charles A. Gonzalez, Texas
Jay Inslee, Washington
Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin
Mike Ross, Arkansas - redbanktom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1re: The Last Mile - The last mile to an alternative Internet backbone could be municipal WiFi nets. That is why it is important that the bill that is moving forward ( the one without the Net Neutrality provisions ) says that state and fed gov can not tell local govs that they can not run their own Internet service.
The telecoms oppose muni WiFi's because they know that they are the best way to provide an alternative last mile.
Tom
http://www.redbanktv.org - allisonaxe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@ skyshock:
Yes, it sure as hell bothers me! Its like being held back in the special ed class when I'm good enough to test-out and move on to college already! It bothers me very much that the majority of Americans are quite content with the status quo, and don't want to progress any further. It bothers the hell out of me that so many of our fellow countrymen reject science and reason, and yes, even compassion!; and instead choose to worship gods, boogiemen, and celebrities.
has the world gone mad? I'm inclined to believe it has!
(I apologize for going so far off-topic, but I couldn't let that political bit rest without getting my say. mod me however you like, but I ask you to think for yourself before you do it!) - kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2In the last six years, in a time of COMPLETE Republican control of all 3 branches of the fed, the federal government has grown completely out of control! Federal spending has quintupled, and the national debt has doubled since the last democrat was in power. There's an entirely new redundant agency with tens of thousands of staffers duplicating the work of the CIA and FBI.
Actions speak louder than words here. Last time we had a balanced budget, a Democrat was in the white house and control of the senate and house was evenly divided. Since the Republicans gained absolute power, all thoughts of a balanced budget have been tossed to the wind, and trillions of dollars of rampant defecit spending ensue. Your great grandkids won't be able to pay off this latest Republican spending spree. And it's not even over yet.
If you believe that the Republican Party honestly wants a smaller federal government, and (HA!) to lower federal spending levels, you're dumber than you look. -
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