What is Digg?192 Comments
- TheWalkingDude, on 10/12/2007, -4/+137I have a feeling people will watch your Netscape submissions and post them on Digg.
- b7illsmith, on 10/12/2007, -13/+91>Dirtyfratboy, Wayjer, and Bloodjunkie can't post on Digg anymore...?
I won't miss them, nothing personal. - sencha5, on 10/12/2007, -5/+68Ooh, Dirtyfratboy's movin on over to Netscape, this is gonna be rough. Now, does this mean Dirtyfratboy, Wayjer, and Bloodjunkie can't post on Digg anymore (not that they have much of a reason)?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+53Treason, I say!
I know you guys are doing it for the cash/money/bling, but c'mon, this company has no morals! They completely ripped off Digg. They are like eBaum's World - gwjc, on 10/12/2007, -14/+55BloodJunkie, Wayjer and Dirtyfratboy - congratulations on the paying gigg; I'm gonna miss you guys around here, maybe you can still pop back in and digg us a good story every now and again.
- frogpelt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42according to the story I read they offered $1000/month. Hardly a "golden" opportunity. However, a nice supplemental income if you're gonna be on the net all the time anyway.
Netscape.com acts like digg is abusing its users by making them do the work and not paying them. Why doesn't Netscape pay based on percentage of revenue generated then? Pay the top 5 contributors 2% each of revenue or something. In other words, for every $1 Million Netscape.com makes, the contributors get $20,000 each. So if the website really takes off these guys can actually make a living doing it. C'mon let's really put our money where our mouth is. - cks3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+35greybird: http://www.onlies.net/diggscape
- jefferson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37im 676th overall can i have a job!
- sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37Good luck to the guys who are moving to Netscape. Thanks for the great stories.
On another note, I think Michael Arrington from TechCrunch has the best view on this whole spiel:
"Digg’s Achilles heel is that such a small group of active users drives so much of their success. However, even if those users bail to Netscape, others will certainly take their place at Digg. In my opinion, Netscape may gain some human assets and may get better story submissions, but Digg will probably continue to thrive.
At the end of the day, the Netscape product is a soulless reproduction of one of the most interesting cultural experiments occuring on the web right now. It was thrown at millions of mainstream Internet users (previous Netscape portal users) who don’t understand Digg and probably don’t care (yet). If anything, my bet is that total page views at Netscape have dropped since the changeover, possibly substantially. Buying users from Digg won’t change that one bit."
I couldn't have said it any better. - MikeCampo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39Well good luck to you guys. It's been nice Digging your stories :)
Maybe I'll start stealing the one's you submit to Netscape ;) save me the trouble of searching lol - TheWalkingDude, on 10/12/2007, -1/+33Wow; looking at the Digg/Netscape members friends, I see a lot of big names from Digg: Capn_Caveman, digitalgopher, tysonhy, msaleem, supernova17, titlesaysitall, biogeek, ...
- freestyle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34Oddly enough after reading this blog post on who moved despite the fact that many of digg's top users have joined the Netscape team I really have no desire to go read Netscape. I now realize that I don't read digg necessarily for the people who submit to it but I read it for the atmosphere and the news that wouldn't get much traffic on a mainstream site. Even though 2 of my favourite users have moved over (dirtyfratboy and bloodjunkie) I'm not bothered. I'll miss some of the weird news that they'd often submit but I won't read Netscape or any other site just because they are there. I think digg's user base isn't loyal to the other users; it's loyal to digg.
- jamsea, on 10/12/2007, -11/+41More power to you making money out of it, thank you for spending some time contributing to digg too!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -19/+48Sellouts.
- quasipalm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30$1,000 a month? That's $6.25 an hour if you're working a 40 hour week. What's minimum wage nowadays?
- canewediggit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31does it really matter? what jason hasn't realized is that although the top submitters count for such a large %, a large % of those stories would wind up on digg anyways because someone else would post them. how many times have any of us gone to post an article only to find that it was already up? how many can he afford to pay for and still be profitable? jason wants to pay for something he can easily get for free. it's a suckers move, and this isn't about digg/netscape, it's just bad business.
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Don't assume that people who created a Netscape account are moving off Digg. Some of them may have created an account to keep their profile from getting poached.
- pats1237, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27Isn't it great how Jason Calacanis acts like a socialist speaking out for the injustices of the top Digg users and how Kevin Rose rides their backs to fame. Grow up and give me a break Calacanis. This is something you won't understand, your site sucks, many people like Digg because it is a great site with great stories and is FUN. It is comical reading Comrade Calacanis' posts on his blog about the injustice of Digg. No one is demanding these people post here. That being said good luck to the hired users, I hope they do well.
- UncommonSense, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20I know there is a huge amount of backlash towards the Diggers who abandoned ship for Netscape, but consider this:
Who among us would honestly choose to remain at a "volunteer job" when a monetary offer is dangling right in front of you for doing the exact same thing?
Would you consider yourself a sellout if you left your company for another that paid much higher? - eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22I guess if you're doing it anyways, you might as well be paid. It's a damned shame, though.
- greybird, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Well how long is it going to be before somebody creates an intermediate posting service that lets you submit once and then feeds to Digg, Netscape, reddit etc?
- RubberbandLN6, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22These top diggers that have moved onto Netscape for monetary reasons definitely have submitted great stories in the past and they will be missed.
You know what though, the news will still continue and as long as it does continue then people will post it to Digg. Digg will still have plenty of great stories that will probably end up on Netscape and visa-versa.
I really don't like the idea of "hiring" people for their hobbies mainly because it just seems somewhat....wrong. "We have money, you don't and now we will buy some of your community because we don't have a community and this is the only way to get a community." A community has to be built, not hired. - Cummings, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24Ne1 notice that Jason (jdawg) contributes to digg more than most of us diggers do?
Take a look at his profile, he's rated 754. Well contributes more than the social freeloaders I mean. Judging by the date of his first Dugg story he's been on digg for about a year and a half.
Just thought that would be interesting to point out for anyone that hasn't noticed. - brucebeh, on 10/12/2007, -7/+243 Words for Netscape: Good For You.
Seriously, I'm very happy for those top diggers that are now getting paid to do what they were doing before, hey, its free money, who doesn't want it.
The problem here is not the "Navigators", its more the business plan or the direction where Jason is going with this, so they got a chunk of money to spend and they decide to spend it on hiring people to submit "quality content", what they are missing out here is where are they going to get users that will read their site with all the links?
You can buy "Navigators" but you can't buy users (you could to a certain extent, but is it really social news bookmarking when you are buying your users?). I think there's a big problem with where Netscape is heading, they need to think of something more original, and they need to think of it FAST, because as soon as you start running low on money, what are you going to do then?
Sure they probably have millions at their disposal, but come on, spend those millions on a REAL marketing firm and try and figure out what the hell you can do instead of spending those millions on HIRING people to submit links.
Sites like MySpace. and Flickr DON"T pay its users, its users pay them! - Brak710101, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24I'm afraid I'm not going to be like the other and say something nice, first thing that comes to mind: sellouts.
Sorry, but honestly, I hope Netscape fails. All it really is a cheap, non-inovative, copy-cat, spin-off. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17"$1,000 a month? That's $6.25 an hour if you're working a 40 hour week. What's minimum wage nowadays?"
If you're working 40 hour weeks posting news stories to a news aggregator, you've got absolutely no life.
I wholeheartedly doubt there's anyone out there looking to take a job posting to a website for $12k/year, without having a second job at /least/ to put food on the table and pay bandwidth bills. - Create, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23these guys, no matter what are traitors
its of no concern though, because where they left off, someone else will emerge
the same stories probably get submitted 100 times a day, these guys stories get to the front page because they are more heavily weighted, and because they are on the front page, they gain more weight, so... where they submitted a front page story, other people submitted the same story, and now theirs will make it to the front page, and their diggs will gain weight
the beauty of the whole system is, if someone *was* in the top 10, if they stop submitting stories and getting dug, someone else will move into the top 10
the only benefit i see to Netscape's plan to pay people (and release their names, because they are obviously hoping people will follow them) is they will create a false image of success, and if they can maintain that appearance, it may eventually become actual success, but if they get full of hot air, and people don't buy the appearance of success, it will fall by the wayside, whereas digg is already successful, and the only way it will fail, is if the users lose interest (don't see that happening any time soon)
Digg FTW! - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24There are some great contributors from Digg on the Netscape team.
BloodJunkie and Dirtyfratboy: I hope to continue to digg your stories on Digg as time and opporunity permit!
Have fun!
P9 - tizz66, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17This is good for Digg. It's not about the users, it's the stories. It just became a little more democratic! Each user should have an equal vote, and digg clearly doesn't seem set up that way, so top users going means everyone elses vote counts a little more.
- chaosmachine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14anyone remember when netscape were the good guys?
seems like so long ago... - pats1237, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Great quote
"You can buy 'Navigators' but you can't buy users" - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I mean I only have 19 promoted stories. Not ranked 19, must be getting ahead of myself.
- capn_caveman, on 10/12/2007, -14/+26I wish the best of luck to the diggers on that list. It's been fun having you guys around!!!
- ptrcd003, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20What, you'd say no to continuing to do what you're doing, just getting a grand a month? I'd like to see you turn it down, just to stay loyal to a website.
- XharMoondi, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17I don't understand the whole thing I guess. Just because you have a few of the top users, doesn't mean you have the "mass" of users. I mean, having people to submit a bunch of stories is great, and I'm sure the top users of Digg and what not can do a great job with it, but a single member isn't as valuable as is being portrayed lately. Honestly, a lot of these users just setup RSS readers with alert systems, and you can see that a ton of top users really don't have more than a 50% "top page" rating. I guess I'm trying to say that there really isn't much "mysticism" to the top Digg users or whatnot. Having the top users from Digg or wherever isn't going to make or break a site (hell, what's preventing any social news site from instantly pulling and submitting stories from the "power users" for their site?). I think money better spent would be in the usability/design area and exclusive/original content.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18good riddance to the sellouts. the stories will still be posted here, other people will step up. its not like there is only one person that sees an article on the net
and as kevin said, what good are good submissions if you only have 3 or 4 diggs on each. seeing 30 stories all ranking from 1 vote to only 4 or 5 tells nothing about the quality of it. you need a huge mass to make a site like this work - freestyle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Kevin OPENLY credits the creation of Digg to delicious as well as slashdot and he's said that all along. You've NEVER said that digg was an inspiration to your mockup. Give credit where it is due and perhaps you won't seem like such the bad guy in everyone's books. Netscape will always have the problem of the cool factor which is very difficult to get back especially if the majority of your users are grandmas who cannot figure out how to change their homepages.
- candre23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Ah, but these are people who are ALREADY wasting 90% of their lives on a computer submitting stories. If you enjoy doing something and you're going to do it anyway, you might as well get paid for it.
- Dragular, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13While we're talking big names, whatever happened to albertpacino? I realize that's kinda off topic, but I remember back in ye olden day, that guy seemed to have something hit frontpage DAILY. What happened?!?!
- heresy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13"he just did it better than anyone else."
Or he just had the fame from TechTV/G4 to spark the site and get a quick userbase...
If Kevin Rose was a nobody before he started Digg, he would be a nobody now. - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -12/+22Whoa, whoa, i'm only ranked 19 on Digg hardly a big name (although I wish I was.)
- ErinIsADrunk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11this truly is sad, I do not blame the users such as dirtyfratboy for going over to netscape even if it is for monetary reasons. I do however think that its despicable that Netscape has had to go to this level, this is essentially saying to its current user base that they are not good enough and that they do not submit good enough stories, so we are going to bring some "real" social bookmarkers. All that a side I wish each and everyone of them luck in their new venture.
- jefferson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14ha as soon as im done my friggin network security exams
- PunkFenixJT, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I congratulate them, I've been here since one of the first iterations of digg, and seen many major posters come and go, and while they may concentrate mostly on netscape, 2 more will step up to take each of their places. This site used to revolve around AlbertPacino, and now he's nothing but a footnote..
Same thing will happen again, digg will live on, and netscape will mostly just tread water. Because it doesn't matter if you have the top 20 diggers....you still need people to read the stories :o) - Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Well, when Netscape crumbles, I hope that all of those users can find their way back to the independant environs of Digg.
As for seeing them go, I just see it as an opportunity for more of us to get to the front page (I could use another mention on Diggnation) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Jason's balls are big and like steel. Or so I hear.
- gwenkelly, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13it just goes to show that anything you do can be made commercial/for profit. i'm happy that the diggers who are now "netscape navigators" feel that they've been given a golden opportunity. someday, i too hope to get paid for something i'm good at. let's see. i rock at sleeping, eating, and crapping. and, you know, i bet in the next 10 years, if i can prove myself to be in the top 10% of sleepers, i might get paid to do it. it would certainly be a golden opportunity for me.
- maddoginthefog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9No offense guys and good luck with your paying gig but you will be quickly replaced on Digg and soon forgotten.
- rova, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Good on you guys. Its just posting news so that more people can be informed right. If someone is going to pay you to do something you love why not! Its not as if the digg owners aren't making good money thanks to the stories you post.
I have a bigger problem with the concept ripoff. - fatas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8This will be the perfect oppurtunity for me to rule digg.
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